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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:46 am

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In post 1973, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wish I just pled BS instead of getting stuck moralizing about whether it was right to policy lynch and potentially drive a newer player away from the site
considering he was trying to PL you I say you'd be completely justified tbqh
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:49 am

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In post 1965, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1959, Plotinus wrote:
Spoiler: game events
Game Events


day 1
  • eth0s
    is lynched with 0 scum on his wagon.


night 1
  • Gamma Emerald
    is dousing
    Pyrrha Nikos
    .
  • The arsonists
    are priming
    Dannflor
    . (success: Dannflor is primed)


day 2
  • sheepsaysmeep
    is lynched with 1 scum on his wagon.


night 2
  • Gamma Emerald
    is dousing
    Dannflor
    .
  • The arsonists
    is priming
    Pyrrha Nikos
    . (success: Pyrrha Nikos is primed)


day 3
  • Blatant Scum
    is lynched with 0 scum on his wagon.


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  • Arsonist PT (will be released in (expired on 2019-12-07 23:20:00), or sooner if the arsonists agree, or a bit later if I go to bed on time tomorrow night.)
  • Dead thread
  • january's notes (will be released in (expired on 2019-12-07 23:20:00), or sooner if january agrees, or a bit later if I go to bed on time tomorrow night.)
So, had we mislynched Banaki, scum could have ignited both me and Dann tonight.
They could have, but then it would have been Gamma, january, Penguin and Blatant Scum alive for MYLO, and then suppose you mislynch january, then during the night Blatant Scum primes Gamma, and then it's LYLO with Gamma, Penguin, and Blatant Scum, which would have been a pretty hard LYLO.

Most likely, if you mislynched Banaki then Gamma would have been primed, then mislynch january for the win (igniting you, Dann, Gamma, leaving only Penguin and Blatant Scum alive
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:54 am

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That really ought to be seen as a scumtell. In Newsroom, scum!SS kept going on about how “dangerous” it was to leave RC in the game.

Only thing surprised me, is that sheep never attempted to distance BS, when he was no longer in jeopardy. And BS, explicitly scumclaimed on more than one occasion.

Saying this was his scumgame and claiming he doused exactly what did do.
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:55 am

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Unfortunately town say the same garbage too
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:56 am

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In post 1976, Plotinus wrote:
In post 1965, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1959, Plotinus wrote:
Spoiler: game events
Game Events


day 1
  • eth0s
    is lynched with 0 scum on his wagon.


night 1
  • Gamma Emerald
    is dousing
    Pyrrha Nikos
    .
  • The arsonists
    are priming
    Dannflor
    . (success: Dannflor is primed)


day 2
  • sheepsaysmeep
    is lynched with 1 scum on his wagon.


night 2
  • Gamma Emerald
    is dousing
    Dannflor
    .
  • The arsonists
    is priming
    Pyrrha Nikos
    . (success: Pyrrha Nikos is primed)


day 3
  • Blatant Scum
    is lynched with 0 scum on his wagon.


Links

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  • Public thread
  • Mod PT
  • Arsonist PT (will be released in (expired on 2019-12-07 23:20:00), or sooner if the arsonists agree, or a bit later if I go to bed on time tomorrow night.)
  • Dead thread
  • january's notes (will be released in (expired on 2019-12-07 23:20:00), or sooner if january agrees, or a bit later if I go to bed on time tomorrow night.)
So, had we mislynched Banaki, scum could have ignited both me and Dann tonight.
They could have, but then it would have been Gamma, january, Penguin and Blatant Scum alive for MYLO, and then suppose you mislynch january, then during the night Blatant Scum primes Gamma, and then it's LYLO with Gamma, Penguin, and Blatant Scum, which would have been a pretty hard LYLO.

Most likely, if you mislynched Banaki then Gamma would have been primed, then mislynch january for the win (igniting you, Dann, Gamma, leaving only Penguin and Blatant Scum alive
January replacing in was the best thing that could have happened.
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:58 am

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In post 1978, RadiantCowbells wrote:Unfortunately town say the same garbage too
If they’re actually trying to push you out of the game as a pl and not because you’ve actually done anything to warrant it, I’d lean scum on that over town.
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:09 pm

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In post 1971, Plotinus wrote:By the way, I noticed during the game that I wasn't the only one confused by this wording
In post 2, Plotinus wrote:
Arsonist Abilitiy
  • Prime
    a target for ignition by
    dousing
    them with gasoline.
Firefighter Ability

  • Fire Prevention:
    Each night phase you may choose one other player to
    douse
    with water. The doused player will be immune to being primed for ignition during that night phase.
Both the town PR and the scum PR douse just with a different liquid, but dousing is also called priming.

I wonder if there is are any words that could be picked that make it easier to distinguish them.
I think the setup needs to be totally reflavored from the ground up, the metaphor just really doesn't work.
Drenching a tree in water before it was drenched in gasoline would be rather irrelevant. Gasoline floats on water so it always moves to where it can still get oxygen. Actually for that reason you're not supposed to try to use water on fires that are based on oils and you're kind of harming people's fire safety knowledge and personal safety with the flawed metaphor of the setup :/ .

I suspect the setup is pretty old and people are too attached to it to reskin it though.
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 1962, PenguinPower wrote::)

Good job all. Sorry for the little spat, jan.
gg everyone

sorry for pushing on u so much... i have a bad habit of tunneling town in order to read them :oops:
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:14 pm

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Thanks Plotinus, the worst for modding.

I love being the hammer that won us the game. :)
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:15 pm

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Yeah Plot, you're totally the worst for modding.
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 1984, PenguinPower wrote:Yeah Plot, you're totally the worst for modding.
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:23 pm

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In post 1974, Psyche wrote:sry for leaving
i only saw suffering in everyone's future if i had stayed
also wow plot you sure know how to mod
thanks for letting me steal your spot :)
seriously do think u towntold a ton and somehow nobody saw it
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:29 pm

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Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Only thing surprised me, is that sheep never attempted to distance BS, when he was no longer in jeopardy.
hence my argument against relying on interaction/partner reads
In post 1980, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1978, RadiantCowbells wrote:Unfortunately town say the same garbage too
If they’re actually trying to push you out of the game as a pl and not because you’ve actually done anything to warrant it, I’d lean scum on that over town.
BS was maf this time but he probably would have acted pretty similar as town lol
it's just him trying to make meta consistent and unreadable
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:30 pm

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fun playing with y'all & thanks for the game plot and the worst!!
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:34 pm

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january's notes are public now
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 1987, january wrote:
Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Only thing surprised me, is that sheep never attempted to distance BS, when he was no longer in jeopardy.
hence my argument against relying on interaction/partner reads
In post 1980, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
In post 1978, RadiantCowbells wrote:Unfortunately town say the same garbage too
If they’re actually trying to push you out of the game as a pl and not because you’ve actually done anything to warrant it, I’d lean scum on that over town.
BS was maf this time but he probably would have acted pretty similar as town lol
it's just him trying to make meta consistent and unreadable
Him continuing to stall on casing you and then naked voting Banaki without explanation, looked so over the top scummy, I just couldn’t ignore it.
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:07 pm

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gg!
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:34 pm

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gg everyone

i'll admit I don't rly have good reads sometimes. I did see the possibilty of BS being scum (I was very for him early in the game, the last day I noticed he started acting towny which I did think might be suspicious, but I just thought pyyrha was being more sus)

I did get frustrated cause ppl call me scum for having bad reads, and felt I was as good as dead in this game cause nobody would believe me

i did feel like if we lynched me we still probably would have won
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:37 pm

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Hm the dead thread thought I was a deep wolf
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:38 pm

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Banakai I thought you were fine

I just didn’t like the self voting
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:40 pm

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I was reading some of your posts this game thinking "man that's a deep wolf post"....the title is making it worse. :lol:
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:41 pm

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In post 1993, Dannflor wrote:Hm the dead thread thought I was a deep wolf
tbh, I thought you were too. Kept having to push the paranoia away.

Duck's right - title makes it worse.
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:16 pm

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In post 1995, the worst wrote:"man that's a deep wolf post"
Hahaha guys I lead on both scum!
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:18 pm

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That's a pretty good strategy to get in deep with town. They'll never see it coming.
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:41 pm

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In post 1939, Dannflor wrote:I don't think Gamma caught it
It took me a second but I noticed
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