2017-2018 Financial Summary

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:17 pm

The real scoop:

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2017-01-01 to 2018-04-03 Financial Summary

     Donations:  $  240.00
    Card Sales:  $  180.00
   Paypal Fees: -$   18.21
   Domain Name: -$   26.22
   Server Cost: -$ 1494.90

           Net: -$ 1119.33

2018-04-04 to 2018-12-31 Expected Costs
   Server Cost: -$  891.00


I had intended to do these more regularly, but life. As you can see, these numbers aren't too far off the April Fool's Day post - and prior to that post they were even closer ($100 less fees came in within a few hours of that thread going up, thanks guys!).

The good news: I received a promotion at work early last year, and have done well with raises and bonuses, so we haven't been struggling to keep up with the costs.

The scary news:

  • Pretty much the same time as said promotion, my wife left her job to stay at home full time with Luke.
  • We had to replace our furnace/AC late last year (it had a hole in it, and was probably leaking CO though enough inside to trigger the alarm), and also replaced our garage door (spring broke) and fridge. That takes care of most of the obvious home improvements, except for the fence (part of which fell over last year during a bad storm), and also took care of a good chunk of our savings.
  • We really were looking at preschool options when the AFD post was made, and Luke is going to be starting a half day program next week.
  • All of that would be easily within budget... if we didn't have a stupid amount committed to student loan debt.

The good/scary news: Child number two is on the way. :)

All that to say: We're fine, and you don't need to worry about ads or losing letters from our name... but I'm sure it would make my wife feel better if we weren't covering the server in full every month. So, if you are able to donate, that would be much appreciated! (I am also still hoping to get cards available as print-on-demand, at some point in the future, mostly a matter of finding the time.)

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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:21 pm

Student loans are scary ouch
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:39 pm

Sheesh, I was pulling everything out of my ass, numbers included. Really scary how close I got to everything.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:40 pm

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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:32 pm

how much do I need to donate?
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:34 pm

Thank you for providing for this site we all love, mith. We’re all grateful
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:43 am

Is there any possible way to sell more merch in an easy way? To make a little extra cash?

Or let's just become Valve and sell hats and online cosmetic prizes.

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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:14 am

In post 0, mith wrote:Child number two is on the way.

CONGRATS !!
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:46 am

In post 6, BBmolla wrote:Is there any possible way to sell more merch in an easy way? To make a little extra cash?

Or let's just become Valve and sell hats and online cosmetic prizes.


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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:28 pm

In post 4, Nero Cain wrote:how much do I need to donate?


I'm not going to give a specific amount. I think if everyone donated $5 a year it would more than cover server expenses, but of course that won't happen. We have had some very generous donations in the past (and recently - $250 from 6 donations since the AFD post, last I checked), which I am certainly thankful for, but I am just as thankful for the smaller ones. Every little bit helps.

In post 6, BBmolla wrote:Is there any possible way to sell more merch in an easy way? To make a little extra cash?

Or let's just become Valve and sell hats and online cosmetic prizes.


As I mentioned in the OP, I am still planning to look into making the card deck which was previously sold as a fund-raiser available print-on-demand. I think the t-shirts went over well when we did that, so that's an option for POD as well (though one likely to not make much money for the site, I suspect). I have no interest in any sort of online incentives for donating, or subscriptions, or ads, etc. as a matter of principle - despite the internet being all about monetization these days, I'm against it.

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:43 pm

I have multiple non-site members who have asked where to buy the mafia deck I use and I don’t bother to show them cause it’s too complex. If there were some sort of order page that’d be helpful too, could easily get sales from non-ms players looking for solid mafia cards.

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:45 pm

I've been meaning to donate, but it would be easier for me to do on a month by month basis rather than a huge chunk at once. Is there a way for me to do that without eating multiple paypal fees?

Let me know.
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:30 pm

In post 11, Thestatusquo wrote:I've been meaning to donate, but it would be easier for me to do on a month by month basis rather than a huge chunk at once. Is there a way for me to do that without eating multiple paypal fees?

Let me know.

Maybe we could do a patreon?

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:35 pm

patreon almost certainly also takes a cut. I was thinking more along the lines of mith lets me bank transfer him.
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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:59 pm

Congrats on baby number two mith!
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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:17 pm

Congratulations, mith!
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:09 pm

In post 11, Thestatusquo wrote:I've been meaning to donate, but it would be easier for me to do on a month by month basis rather than a huge chunk at once. Is there a way for me to do that without eating multiple paypal fees?

Let me know.


paypal.me/mafiascum should work? At least, it shouldn't charge fees if you are doing it as a transfer from your bank account, rather than a card.

I think there are other options that don't charge fees - Google Wallet, maybe?

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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:11 pm

PayPal won't charge fees if you say you're paying for goods or a service.
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:25 pm

but it takes a lot from miths end

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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:20 pm

In post 18, Eddie Cane wrote:but it takes a lot from miths end

send via f&f best you can do


No, if you send it like you're sending it to a friend/family member, it charges like $0.40 in tax.
If you send it like you're paying for a good, it sends the whole amount with no tax.
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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:03 pm

and then it takes a service fee out of the receiver which is much larger
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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:29 am

Paypal is getting its cut no matter what. Either you are paying it, or the recipient is paying it.
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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:58 pm

I'd buy a mug and a shirt.

Card decks make good gifts.

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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:10 pm

You should turn the site meta into a card game so people can play the site's Mafia IRL. I bet that would sell pretty well.
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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:16 pm

I'd buy a shirt
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