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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:13 pm

Hello!

Discussion in the Quicktopic Shutting Down thread has led to a community driven effort to archive the vast majority of QTs used in MS games over the years, and as a result, we now have a searchable visualization of the data from those topics, sourced from combing public MS posts and other opt-in contributions from individual users.

Shoutout to Cabd, who primarily engineered and supported this effort, but a huge thanks goes out to everyone who contributed ideas / testing / feedback to the process as well.

Please watch this space for instructions on how to access the archive.
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:51 pm

And that's my cue!

This project contains a preserved copy of every post in any Quick Topic that was in a public-facing area of the site. Feel free to bookmark this URL. As content is updated or tags are added, the underlying link remains the same.

If you have feedback about any of the content tagging, or have additional quick topics that you feel should be preserved, please reach out here or via the MafiaScum discord server, tagging me appropriately. If you have a batch of Quicktopics not present in this data set, please submit them to me as a .csv file, one url per line, as quickly as possible; as the site's shutdown is imminent.

Many thanks to my beta testers and fellow scummers that worked to help preserve and tag this content.

Quicktopic Preservation Link: https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoi ... IsImMiOjN9
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:51 pm

Changelog:



Version 1.0 - 11/29/2021

-General Public Release

-Added Year Slicer to Content Search

-Added additional context to landing page



Version 1.1 - 12/1/2021

-Added an additional search page to help with finding QTs with irregular names



Version 1.2 - 12/8/2021

-Added additional QTs to the database provided by N, as well as some of my own that didn't make it in

-Added a function to auto-remove duplicate lines in case a player submits a QT already present
Last edited by Cabd on Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:24 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:11 pm

Appreciate all the hard work, cabd
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:07 pm

Outstanding thanks a ton.

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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:17 pm

\o/
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:14 pm

This is so cool. Thank you.
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:31 am

As you can notice in the screenshot below, I think that the word 'blame' was mistaken for the ableist 'lame'.
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:39 am

Something something Scunthorpe Problem something

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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:17 pm

amazing work! this is so important
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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:57 pm

In post 7, RH9 wrote:As you can notice in the screenshot below, I think that the word 'blame' was mistaken for the ableist 'lame'.
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This is because of how the filter works. It searches for the text string "lame", and if it finds that text string in a post, that post gets flagged as potentially ableist, regardless of what the surrounding characters are. Posts with "flame" in them, for example, would also get flagged for the same reason.

There are likely a decent number of false positives overall - one of the text strings covered by Drugs and Alcohol is "high" - but false positives are preferable to letting negatives slip through. This is also one of the reasons why the qualifier "Potentially" is at the top of the list of trigger categories.
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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:07 pm

I could have it search for a whitespace character at the start as in instead of "lame" I could search " lame " but it still will have some false positives
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:12 pm

Would it be possible to manually sort these out on a case by case basis? I'd be willing to scroll through stuff and try to sort out false negatives if that's doable.

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:15 pm

It's over 300,000 records, dude.

There's hobbyist work, and then there's spending an entire 40 hour workweek on shit most people are gonna look at once or twice as a novelty then forget about.
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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:23 pm

Saying it that way does put it into perspective.

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:02 am

This is really cool. I never knew about QTs. It's almost like watching a bunch of old vhs tapes, a lot of familiar faces.

Changing date range to: 2020 to 2021 is kinda depressing. Gives a bit of insight on why they shut down I guess.

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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:16 am

I used to use quicktopics all the time on my original forum mafia site (which doesn't even run forum mafia anymore ;_;)
what a throwback
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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:03 pm

In post 16, SirCakez wrote:I used to use quicktopics all the time on my original forum mafia site (which doesn't even run forum mafia anymore ;_;)
what a throwback


Same! I have lots of Mafia QTs from 2009 to 2013, then one in 2015, then a couple in 2020. I'll be sad to see it go.
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:28 pm

They were really helpful back when we didn't have PTs at all.
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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:46 pm

From the change log:

In post 2, Cabd wrote:Version 1.1 - 12/1/2021
-Added an additional search page to help with finding QTs with irregular names


We tried some test cases today that would mimic how people reading old games might want to access the related QuickTopics.

In general, what we find in game threads are just QuickTopic URLS. Whatever title the Mods gave their QuickTopics usually weren't written out in the game thread. The QuickTopic title in the archive may or may not contain part of the game title itself. And players may not have used their mafiascum user names in the QuickTopic. So the Page 2 scroll list of QuickTopic titles or the Page 3 user name search may or may not help you find the QuickTopics that belong to the specific games you're researching.

Cabd created a fourth page for the app to make it easier to find QuickTopics with the minimal information you might have from a specific game. The page has four new search boxes that can help you find the QuickTopic in the haystack: URL search, Topic Name search, User Name Search, and Post Text search. You can use all, some, or one of these search boxes to find QuickTopic titles that might be what you are looking for.

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You can use Page 4 to narrow down the Quicktopic name(s) you're looking for, and then use Page 2 to scroll through the alphabetical list of topic titles and click the relevant titles to filter down to just the posts that go with the QuickTopic(s) you want to read.
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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:40 am

Wow this is amazing! Thank you for archiving this!
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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:19 pm

is there a quick way to grab all the topics I have links to? I logged into qt and was going to right-click/copy-link but there's way more than I expected
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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:25 pm

In post 21, N wrote:is there a quick way to grab all the topics I have links to? I logged into qt and was going to right-click/copy-link but there's way more than I expected

Unfortunately not. You can check the list of QTs we already have though and rule sending those out using the searching tools on pages three and four.
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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:07 am

I found an extension that seems to do the job, if anyone else is interested

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... dg/related
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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:49 am

Just as a general FYI tomorrow is the last day to get quick topic links to me cuz the site is shutting down on the 11th first thing and I'm probably going to be out and away from the desk most of the 10th.
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