Open 737: Stack the Deck (Korina PT)

[ofrhz]

hello!

Please note that my backup mod, mutantdevle, also has access to this PT.

[Vex Vience]

cool, i can see this and post in here.
thanks

[Vex Vience]

so then i should post pregame thoughts & shit

if i get mafia id at least want to take daytalk
no questions on that one. daytalk as scum is required
then id want rolecop tbh
id wanna minimize the chance of getting vig in the game

i feel like ic is the weakest of all the town roles unless a bg exists only because no one can protect the ic

[Vex Vience]

so, scum: daytalk > rolecop > bp > joat > traitor
town: vig > cop > rber > bg > tracker > ic

id want vig the most as town just to help kill scummy players lategame

[Vex Vience]

actually looking at it again bp may be more valuable instead of rolecop
only assuming that town started with vigi or got vigi from daytalk/bp is it really that good though

[Vex Vience]

bp is a waste if town doesnt get a vigi

[Vex Vience]

i dont think id take bp as scum unless i was taking three other things basically confirming that town does have vigi somewhere
otherwise odds are too low for me to actually bother with bp
daytalk is still guaranteed yes tho

[Vex Vience]

im also not going to meta anyone this game
meta argument are shit ones
too easy to manip your meta especially if its simple like activity meta

[Vex Vience]

thinking about the game ahead of time if theres an ic and i get bg im instantly protecting the ic
if i get vig i may shoot whoever i suspect the most d1 or wait on shooting
cops im gonna tr whoever i check and hint that im cop early on

[Vex Vience]

@mod if a goon takes bp or joat do they still appear to be goon to goon cops?

[Vex Vience]

@mod if a goon takes bp or joat do they still appear to be goon to goon cops?

actually ignore this question its a dumb one even though i find that theres no dumb ones
why would joat goon appear to be non-goon?
why do i try to post game idea at midnight

[Vex Vience]

ok so most of my other theory will wait till i get an actual rc
i cant really theorize what the mafia will take more so than what i have
daytalk is too good to not take and ill be p shocked if they dont

[Vex Vience]

just for ref: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77146

[Vex Vience]

@mod does the no quoting pts rule apply to my own thoughts in this pt (even tho i prolly wont)?

[Vex Vience]

ok so vt as role
interesting
so assuming the scum do make the picks i think they will (daytalk + rolecop/bp) thatll give me fair odds at getting pr

[Vex Vience]

4/9 pr odds or about 44% chance
would rather not get ic bc unless bg is in play, im dead n1

[Vex Vience]

but then again
its random chance

[ofrhz]

@mod does the no quoting pts rule apply to my own thoughts in this pt (even tho i prolly wont)?

yes it does.

just copy paste the text. don't quote.

also just a heads up, i probably won't be checking this regularly once the game begins. for private questions, always feel free to pm me

[Vex Vience]

k
thanks

[Vex Vience]

ok since i have a rolecard i can think a bit more about what to do as the various prs if i get them:
if i get vig im prolly gonna shoot those i find really susp or who everyone really agrees on being scum early on and try to shoot lategame to help try to kill off lasting scum
cop, rber, tracker all follow the same pattern, check those i find susp really early on and those the town agrees to be very likely scum
bg protect those i think are most likely to get hit at night
ic hope to god theres a bg in the game and that theyre on me the night maf tries to kill me otherwise play it as vt otherwise, just calling thing as i find them
vt call things as i find them, be active and be productive

[Vex Vience]

i really cant do a whole lot except wait until game starts
zzz

[Vex Vience]

hm still vt
ok

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my thoughts on this is that mafia prolly took two mods at most
obv daytalk and probably rolecop
idt bp is that useful considering that means mafia thinks theres a vig in game
nor is recruiting traitor because they lose bp and if theres no vig that means they get confirmation on who traitor is 100%

[Vex Vience]

idc that mafia are that scared about vig being in game
ik i wouldnt be about it its a 1/6 chance of appearing
about a 47% of vig not appearing through all 4 presumed town roles, so about a coin flip
i wouldnt feel scared about vig appearing at that rate

[Vex Vience]

yea maf are very unlikely to have taken the bp imo
maf likely took daytalk, joat, and rc.
i dont think they recruited the goon in general nor taking bp
many more useful things they could've taken

Goon Cop - no counter
Roleblocker - countered by joat strongman
Tracker - countered by joat ninja
Bodyguard - countered by joat strongman
Vigilante - countered by bp
Innocent Child - no counter

yea by looking at this it means joat is 100% a pick, too many town prs countered by joat
i think daytalk is 100% a pick as well
town wr: 40%
mafia wr: 53%
abandon rate: 6%

so this setup is scumsided
meaning joat, daytalk and probably cop are modifications taken