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Mini Normal 2238
Moderated by Dwlee99
Reviewed by Something_Smart and ChaosOmega
Current Game State:
Pregame
Public Game Knowledge:
The mafia may multitask abilities and the factional kill, and any PTs are always open.
Rule list borrowed from TheStatusQuo with slight modifications.
Sample VT Role PM:
Spoiler: Alive (13)
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[b][size=200][align=center][color=#8000BF]Mini Normal 2238[/color][/align][/size] [align=center]Moderated by Dwlee99 Reviewed by Something_Smart and ChaosOmega[/align][/b] [b]Current Game State:[/b] Pregame [b]Public Game Knowledge:[/b] The mafia may multitask abilities and the factional kill, and any PTs are always open. Rule list borrowed from TheStatusQuo with slight modifications. [area=The Basics][list=1][*]Day Phase: 10 days. Night Phase 2 days [*]36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement. [*]I have some unusual rules, please pay special attention to rules 3, 4, and 12 in the general rules section. [*]I have a "Don't play if you're not having fun" rule. Please avail yourself of it. There's no shame in requesting replacement if you're not enjoying yourself. [*]Respect everyone's basic humanity. Do not be an asshole to people. Don't be a racist or sexist or really any other -ist. Respect other players displayed pronouns. [/list][/area] [area=General Rules][list=1][*]Have fun. This is not an option. Games are only good when players are having fun. If you are not having fun, replace out. There is no shame in this. I have no problem with it. You are not a bad person. Both you and the game will be happier for it. [*]Days will continue until one of two things happen: a player is killed or a deadline passes. [*]Please do not communicate with the mod in thread. Mod communication should not take place in the game thread. If I feel your question has an answer that the rest of the town needs to know about, I will make a game announcement. If you attempt to claim this is due to a question you asked I will count that as quoting mod communication. [*]Do not be toxic. Being toxic is subjective and I am the final say on what that means. [*]Do NOT quote your role PMs, OR any other form of communication from me unless it is something I have already posted on this thread. This is a modkillable offense. [*]Do not discuss the game outside of the game thread unless your role allows you to, in which case you may only do it during the specified times and in the specified threads. This is a modkillable offense. You also may not quote, screenshot, etc. any communication that happens outside of the thread while the game is ongoing. Paraphrasing is okay. [*]You’re required to post regularly. I prod after 36 hours of inactivity and replace after 24 hours of no response to the prod. This can be flexible if you PM me in advance. [*]Once you are dead, please no "bah" posts. [*]In the event of a modkill, it will end the day. [*]If a deadline passes without a player receiving the majority of the votes the day will end with no elimination. [*]The days in this game will last 10 days. [*]If you don't get your choices in, your default action is NO ACTION. [*]Please do not prod dodge. I will count posts with little or no game content, or a pattern of posts with little or no game content as a prod dodge and these will not count towards preventing a prod. Please see rule 1 about replacing out if you are not having fun or do not have the time to play.[/area] [b]Sample VT Role PM:[/b] [area=Vanilla Townie]Welcome, Player A! You are a [color=green]Vanilla Townie[/color]. [b]Individual Abilities[/b] [list] [*]Each day you may vote for who you think the bad guys are. [/list] [b]Your Win Condition[/b] [list] [*]You win the game when all threats to the town have been eliminated and at least one town player is alive.[/list] Please confirm by responding to this PM stating your role and alignment. The game thread can be found [url=game thread]here[/url]. Good luck, have fun.[/area] [area=Player List][list=1] [*]Dragon of the West [*]Gamma Emerald [*]Wake88 [*]ssbm_Kyouko [*]Kerset [*]Nero Cain [*]DrippingGoofball [*]Cat Scratch Fever [*]House [*]Andresvbm [*]Almost50 [*]MathBlade [*]Titus[/list][/area] [spoiler=Alive (13)] Dragon of the West Gamma Emerald Wake88 ssbm_Kyouko Kerset Nero Cain DrippingGoofball Cat Scratch Fever House Andresvbm Almost50 MathBlade Titus[/spoiler] [spoiler=Dead]None yet![/spoiler] [spoiler=Events]None yet![/spoiler]
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Anything below here I'm going to use to put my thoughts about anything related to the game.
I think this rand will be an interesting one. Math/DGB as neighbors should be entertaining, and I'm excited to see how House uses his JOAT abomination role.
The town has both the advantage and disadvantage in this rand that a lot of thetownplayers know each other and have played with each other recently. It's an advantage in that they should be able to read each other well, but is a disadvantage in that the scum team doesn't have an established meta yet. So I expect this game to become a PoE hunt of sorts unless Nero does a Nero.
Scum (or well, at least DotW) seem to already think that there is a vigilante in the game. Kind of the red herring I was going for, but I also wanted it to be easier for that role to be true claimed. I wonder if the assumption of a vigilante will be challenged when no one shows up dead. I wonder if the team will also pick up on the idea of a mailman possibly hinting towards a traffic analyst. That idea is harder to come up with than "bulletproof -> vig" and also far less certain, but it should be interesting.Last edited by Dwlee99 on Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:02 am, edited 2 times in total.I prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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It took me until
this post to understand that Goofy and Donald are neighborsIn post 182, MathBlade wrote:
I am pushing you and Nero.In post 181, House wrote:
Push your scumread, then.In post 180, MathBlade wrote:
Imho one of you and/or Nero aren’t.In post 177, House wrote:
I'm tired of you thinking I'm pushing you for instant elimination when I'm just poking you for a reaction.In post 174, MathBlade wrote:
I am tired of you not noticing it’s scum and I have done nothing meriting a push.In post 173, Titus wrote:
Then I'll be offputting. I'm tired of giving him the lecture to stop tunneling obvtown and that he'll be miseliminated.In post 168, Nero Cain wrote:wasn't scumreading Titus but her willfully avoiding being involved is kinda offputting
Instead, I sit back and wait for an actual scummy FoS on Math.
Fix't
Because reasons.
You’re online you get pushed.
When Nero posts I will push him.
Until someone explains how town makes that post he could be Townie AF he’s still scum.
I gave him[Nero] the benefit of the doubt and he[Nero] did nothing with it.
You either don’t know Disney or are scum.
Like some things are just obvious.I prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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I privately warned Nero here for the post quoted and also posted a message in thread asking players to avoid personal attacks. I think that games of mafia should be played without people attacking each other outside of the game. It could be argued that this is "attacking the play" because it directly refers to MathBlade's play quality, but I think that it differs because it isn't making a statement about MathBlade playing poorly this game or in the past (as I did not find Nero saying Gamma was bad at reading him objectionable), it is making a statement about MathBlade and his ability to improve and play at any time.Dwlee99 wrote:Subject: Mini Normal 2238 | Day 1
Hey Nero, I feel like this post borders on being toxic and I'd appreciate it if you held off on personal attacks such as this in the future.Nero Cain wrote:you will never fucking get better
Further, the tone was hostile and the addition of the "fucking" makes it much more aggressive. I don't want to be overreacting to posts players make, but I also want to nip this behavior in the bud before the game could spiral out of control.
If you're reading this and disagree with my decision, I would appreciate hearing what you think should have been done in this situation.I prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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This kind of vote count does not look good for town.In post 611, Dwlee99 wrote:I prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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I think I forgot to talk about this earlier. So yea the role is sort of a miller, same with the other neighbor and the JOAT once the neighborize is used + the person that was neighborized. But only for a traffic analyst / PT cop. I disagree that a rolecop actually guilties a "Simple Jailkeeper," in fact I'd argue it is an inno. A simple jailkeeper can only roleblock goons and VTs, meaning its power is almost entirely protective. In this specific setup, it is actually strictly equivalent to a simple doctor, however I made the role a simple jailkeeper to prevent people from being inno'd. Ie, if I target x and the night kill doesn't happen as a doctor, I can assume they were the night kill target and are town. If I am a jailkeeper, however, I have to wonder if they are a mafia goon that I roleblocked from doing the kill. I think that's why the jailkeeper here is much more interesting than a doctor, even though in town's hands they are functionally the same given the roles that everyone has.In post 29, MathBlade wrote:This is probably dumb but gonna do this
I am a simple jailkeeper neighbor.
That’s why there is “not hard” and “keep” in the OP.
I am fake guiltied by practically everything except an alignment cop.
So I needed to be townread and Nero blowing that up makes him scum.
Like I spent a long time on that crumb to keep you safe.
I am going to try to save VTs but yeah I am an antitown TPR who can’t be checked yet might stop a kill.
Anyway, all of those words are to say that I believe a rolecop that sees "Simple Jailkeeper" should actually interpret that as an innocent result, as scum have no use for blocking VTs or for blocking goons unless it is a way for goons to be protected against a vigilante.I prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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What did I just readIn post 1081, Titus wrote:Hey everybody. Here's the deal.
We're all from Asia now, which means we hate the people from the West. Particularly those who appropriate symbols of our culture, like the Dragon.
So we're eliminating DotW.I prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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oh shitIn post 57, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I feel like Titus might be a PR with some knowledge of the setup. Maybe a Traffic Analyst?In post 732, Titus wrote:
It does. I just realized I have reason to suspect the gambit is to cover for scum, but I don't want to get into why and my thinking could be wrong.In post 316, Nero Cain wrote:At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.I prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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A50 is speaking the language of the godsIn post 1387, Almost50 wrote:
Just because aIn post 1380, Dragon of the West wrote:This post pings me. Reads similarly to how A50 acted in 235 where the whole time he was super jovial and unhelpful. I don't know if that's A50's schtick but it seems scum indicative to me
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All of these are town which I guess is good for the doc at least.In post 1572, Nero Cain wrote:If I'm mafia I kill Math
If I'm a town doc I'll protect a50
If I'm a vig I'll vig I'll vig Andre
if im a town cop I invest kyo
if im a tracker I track HouseI prefer they, thanks :)- Dwlee99
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Are crumbs always this obvious or is it just because I know people's roles?In post 1762, MathBlade wrote:Hmmm how would you feel about ice cream jail A50? It’s a super special jail in my heart where I stare at your ISO all nightI prefer they, thanks :) - Dwlee99
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