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Oh sweet, you guys play. I'm a huge magic buff, both paper and online, and I've got decks in every format. Add me if you want, I'm JediShadow on mtgo."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 559, xRECKONERx wrote:FUCK MTGO
two games in a row i drew a hand with ONE LAND, only to mull into a hand with NO LANDS
fucking bullshit
I had this problem when I switched from paper to online. Because shuffling is not akin to 'true random', I've found that altering my land counts drastically reduces this effect."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 579, dramonic wrote:In post 578, bv310 wrote:A good mono-W deck's got you dead before you can even hit 10 mana to Alpha Brawl. :p
I'm assuming what you're calling "a good monowhite deck" is out of everyone's budget.
Monowhite tokens can be built for ~$7 on M:tGO. Monowhite Humans is the expensive version."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I'll second making cheap archetypes - Delver is one of the easiest things to replicate on a budget and still be decent (in Standard). You can get into other formats on the cheap too, but I wouldn't expect to win 2 mans."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 619, AGar wrote:Isn't the necessary core for making Delver work the most expensive part?
In standard? You can run delver without Snapcaster, but even if you wanted snapcaster, a playset isn't too expensive ($20). Again, I talk M:tGO prices, that's all I can play, my area is really dry for sanctioned paper M:tG.
For instance, I run my delver with delvers (of course), stalkers, stromkirk nobles, then all the necessary U/R instances, and runechanter's pike. Your meta mileage may vary though."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Ouch. Paper hurts...
I'm usually the person who can't stand to by digital content (music, games, movies). I love having the boxes, instruction manuals, art. And while I do own paper M:tG decks and played it for years in school with friends and at a LCS who hosted tournaments, something about M:tGO appeals more to the 25 year old adult in me. I can play any time I want, it's 1/5th or less the price, and it's stupid easy to find any card you want (once you know which stores to frequent).
If I wanted to play paper and get 75% of the enjoyment I get out of M:tGO, I'd have to drive an hour (I live in the farthest northern edge of Los Angeles county, about 45 minutes away from the major cities), only play on weekends, and you have to start talking about the gas cost, late nights that I can't quite put in like when I was younger, and trying to convince my Fiance that it it's worth doing (she plays casually with our paper cards, but I can't get her to touch her M:tGO account).
I just wish they would finish M:tGO v4 sooner rather than later, but maybe they're taking the time to get it right this time. M:tGO as it stands now is about as fast and intuitive as windows 95 would be to anyone born in the 90s."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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On that note, anyone here live/play in SoCal, or does anyone know how I can find the best place to go for a draft? My little brother is turning 13, lives in Simi Valley with our parents, so I'm looking between Simi Valley to Northridge/Burbank/Glendale. I know there's going to be at least a couple good places to go, I want to take him to his first draft somewhere that's going to have a decent turnout. I know there's a store finder, but anyone have any advice on finding maybe thebeststore, or just a really good one? There's a dinky LGS that runs official events right in Simi, but I've been to that shop and you couldn't fit a decent group into that place if they were all standing. There's an LCS, but they aren't listed on wizards.com, and I don't think they run events anyway."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Exalted gives me a big 'meh' feeling. Maybe pair em with homicidal seclusion in control decks? I'm sure that's too inside the box to even be pertinent."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Single creature beat down *shrug*. I dunno, exalted doesn't begin to excite me, so I haven't put much thought into it."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I think you could make great use of barter in blood style cards + terminus and run stuff like said angel and nefarox. I guess you could run this mono black too."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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So uh. I just opened my collection, and I had two premium foil decks and a premium foil booster sitting there that I didn't buy. What is going on?"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Yeah. Seriously. Did I win a contest? I got Premium Slivers, Premium Fire/Lightning, and a Premium Alara block booster. 135 foil cards."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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For you paper players, what are your opinions on booster boxes in standard? For someone going from M:tGO to casual paper standard/FNM/occasional saturday events. I was considering buying a box each of Innistrad/DA/AR for my fiance and I. I figure it's a good way to get playsets of the good commons/uncommons, the occasional tradeable rare/mythic or two, and have enough cards to make decks we can play each other with/take to FNM. What would you guys do if you were starting from scratch today, and you had a budget of anywhere from $100-$300?"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Depending on where you shop sure. I have no qualms with that really. Amazon isn't too bad as far as tax and shipping goes, though I'd check my local shop as well. So, disregarding the monetary investment 3 boxes would be, or rather, comparing that to what it would cost to build up your playsets of commons/uncommons for two people to make a variety of decks, and those people just starting out in paper. For instance, in M:tGO it's dead simple to build playsets of cards because they cost a penny each to maybe 10c at most, and there's no shortage of dealers. In real life, you don't have instant full access to a dealer with unlimited supply, and paper cards might cost 25c a common."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I was clued into buying playsets of unc/com via ebay. $25-$30 a set doesn't sound so bad, and I can just get rares in singles/trades. I think I'll go that way, and save buying boxes for group drafts."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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On that note, is there a best place online to buy singles from one source (so that there isn't the need for so many different shipments to get started)?"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 769, bv310 wrote:I prefer just using tcgplayer. It lets you shop around between different stores
I like the idea of tcg player, but if I'm going to buy hundreds of cards in a fell swoop, I'm either going to take a loss combining shipping on a more expensive store that has everything, or get every card as cheap as possible and losing on a ton of shipping. I don't see where (in the case that I need playsets of EVERYTHING) eBay doesn't win @ $28 + free shipping to grab INN or DKA or AVR commons/uncommons x4 all at once."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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On that note, now I'm a little confused about what I do. Like, if I wanted to grab all commons from innistrad x4, is there a quick and easy way to bring this up?"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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So I see how the optimizer works, handy stuff, but is there an easier way now to mass add cards to my cart? From what it looks like, I told it to list all commons from Innistrad, but then I still have to type that I want 4 from x vendor, hit add to cart, then it auto takes me to my cart where I have to click continue shopping, scroll back to where I was, repeat. With only 12 commons I'm also already at $5, still seems like an ebay set is the way to go..."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I don't get all the midnight duelist hate. I mean, obviously it's a dredge only card, but if you pick it up and you're running r/w, what makes it such an awful one drop? I'm not talking in an instance where you get to pick up Stonewrights, but as filler it seems ok (definitely not something to shoot for as a 3-of). Banners raised is definitely crap though... If you were just stretching to fill in a deck after getting a lot of pack 1 cathars/revolts, I could see how that came about."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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The more I look at AGar's list there makes me think he did a lot of early red drafting and the white wasn't exactly trickling down. I'd be interested in hearing the order in which you picked those cards up."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I don't know that I'm confident enough to go into an 8-4, I like that if I can go 2-1, my next draft is less than half price."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Made the plunge. Just bought playsets of every common/uncommon in ISD/DKA/AVR. Going to hand pick rares and go off and running into the world of paper magic again"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I think Latch Seeker is underrated in Avacyn draft. In U/G soulbond or U/W it can get in against a lot of decks with few answers. Great card."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In avacyn draft vs. an unblockable? Hard removal is few and far between where black and red are the weakest colors and underplayed to begin with (in my experience)."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Ok, I just drafted what I think is a pretty ridiculously incredibly super ultra bad deck, and went 2-0 round one. Let's see if I can pull off more? I'll cap the list in the next round.
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I don't know what to say about this draft right now. In the finals with the above deck.
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So, I won. 2-0, 2-0, 2-1. I'm not even sure why."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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So, my experience last night comes down to Zealous Conscripts being a huge bomb in limited. I pulled it in at least 5 games, and it outright won 4 with the opponent scooping as it came into play. Seraph of Dawn is an absolute workhorse, and Cloudshift makes for some silly offensive plays. That single Pillar of Flame saved me from Latch Seeker twice, and Angelic Armaments makes things like Thraben Sentry deadly. I think a lot of people are going in to Avacyn and really devaluing the few pieces of removal available, and pay for it. Everyone was running in-your-face aggro, but my sloppy picks turned into a measured deck that just stabilized then outpaced every game. I think evasion is paramount to Avacyn, not just fast/big creatures.
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-The last game took 17 turns, ended with Zealous Conscripts+Cloudshift stealing the opponents only two flying creatures, then getting in with all my angels after an interesting stalemate.
- Zealous Conscripts + Cloudshift won me two games. Zealous Conscript alone won me 3 other games.
- My very first pack had a Cavern of Souls and a Druid's Familiar. I actually meant to pick the Familiar, and probably would have drafted a completely different deck if I hadn't misclicked.
- That 3/3 spider with reach for 3 is sick. Every game I played ended up with maybe one answer to my flying creatures, but it was always enough to stall the game until I pulled something like Conscripts.
- Commander's Authority + Angel's Tomb worked out really well for me one game.
- That red 2/2 intimidate vampire for 4 is really good.
- Latch Seeker and Fettergeist is soooo strong."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I was thinking about trying a R/G reanimator. Would it be too unfocused to have that running birds (of paradise), hunstmaster, defy death AND/or unburial, and some meaty creatures (forward thinking, I'm staying away from Scars block in paper) like an Avacyn, Moldgraf Monstrosity... or w/e. I feel like there's too much going on maybe, but I guess having the right dual lands (Rootbound Crag, sunpetal grove, Dragskull Summit?) could make it cohesive? Maybe strangleroots and huntsmaster as early game, or I could go with burn, or black removal?
I'll proxy test this before I commit that much money, but suggestions?Last edited by Shadow1psc on Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:12 am, edited 1 time in total."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 878, chesskid3 wrote:mist raven
crippling
or just swinging anyway because they only have one blocker.
My deck is all about wining in the first 8 turns or going down in flames.
This is what everyone seems to be doing in avacyn drafts, and a well measured deck with a good curve and stabilization/pacing will destroy them."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I got lumber knot out 4 times, soul bonded each. Twice to wing crafter, once to wurm, once to shieldmate. Lost 1-2 in finals to an INSANE Boros. Again my experience, stabilizing the table with big evasive creatures then turning things around with into the void/chill/ghostform etc makes for a smooth experience. I did loose to insanely fast Boros. Just ridiculous nice picks."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Alright, so this is where I ended up in SoM-less reanimator. It draws well and doesn't often leave me without something to do. I'm either ramping up with pilgrim and draws, pitching key things with Scholar (who can also beat face, but probably shouldn't be), or even hardcasting Sigarda to kick things off. I think dissipate helps a bit, but it can be slow, so I'm not sure if I'd keep it.
Tips on the mana base (it seems to work much better than my Green/Red/Black experiment) or early game improvement?
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In post 898, Thestatusquo wrote:I mean, that just means you got lucky. In general you want 6 or so ways to do any sort of gimmick, soulbond necessary guys being no exception.
In a 40 card deck with extra draw? Granted, not a whole lot of it, and I guess 4 is a little low. I never stopped to count how many made the cut, I just knew I had enough picks for it to work lol. Flying or hexproof lumberknot is so great though. It made me sad to watch other people in between pick up forcemages, but be playing green/black. Every deck that lost round one was playing x/black. The deck I trounced round one was mono black, and I didn't see a single homicidal seclusion anywhere."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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i tried running red, I found faithless looting underwhelming. Arc Trail is leaving (I -LOVE- arc trail. The only reason I'm coming up with a new deck is because of the cripple budget delver is taking). You're right about forbidden alchemy being the card I want though, cheaper and definitely more efficient than amass. When I did my gatherer search I looked for things that say draw/discard. So that's a good get definitely. Lingering souls instead of Dissipate is great early game, absolutely dead card past turn 4-5, but I realize I'm looking for the early game improvement here, so maybe that IS the answer.
I hope to god BoP is getting reprinted in RtR, that would also change the deck up a little."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 903, Thestatusquo wrote:I think you'd probably be better served only running one of each reanimation target (or picking 2 and cutting down to just four total reanimation slots.) so you can run some more defensive spells. I'd consider timely reinforcements.
Griselbrand was just thrown in there for fun, I settled on 2 each of the angels, and it seems to be the right number to make sure I have one as a turn 4-5 target. Any less and run the risk of just never seeing one in a lot of games it feels like. The land base feels fluid and on the nose. I got rid of Think Twice completely, and I'm thinking mulch is even not needed as a 4-of. Timely Reinforcements isn't being reprinted, so that's out, and is the same reason I'm not just running Birds (yet).
If I cut down to 3 mulch instead of 4, I have 4 slots available for some kind of defense. Dissipate back in?
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In post 905, Sudo_Nym wrote:Shea's suggestion is a good one; you generally only need about 4 targets, and the rest should be defense and dig. Timely Reinforcements is good; Midnight Haunting is good, too. Dissipate I think is going to be too slow in the meta; when you're facing down a lot of aggro, Dissipate stops one threat if they don't have Cavern of Souls. Lingering Souls and Timely Reinforcements can block over several turns until you get your fatties out.
Again, unless I missed something, Timely Reinforcements is not legal in less than 12 hours. I thought about midnight haunting, but I can also hard cast a turn 4 sigarda, which if anything would maybe cause me to up that by 1, and then I only have 4 real 'reanimator' targets in 2x avacyn and 2x gisela."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 907, InflatablePie wrote:In post 906, Shadow1psc wrote:Again, unless I missed something, Timely Reinforcements is not legal in less than 12 hours.
Pretty sure M12 doesn't rotate until October.
M13 is legal tomorrow."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Oh wow, m12 and m13 are both legal until Scars rotates? That's... odd, is that recent?. Either way, I don't plan on investing in m12 the same way I don't plan on investing in anything SoM. I'd just have to replace it sooner rather than later anyway.
As far as multiple reanimation targets, it's always nice to have options. Having Avacyn and Sigarda on the field at the same time is even something pretty desirable, if the opponent still feels like fighting that (Terminus, Day of Judgement, w/e). Terminus in particular I'd be worried about, but that's what sideboarding is for I guess. In my test draws, I really like the flow of the deck with 6 angels, I think it's just something I'm convinced about, but I do now have 4 slots open (I got rid of think twice and a mulch)."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 912, bv310 wrote:It's been that way for a few years now.
Also, see the edit above, you cheap fuck.
This has a little more to do with OCD than anything. If I buy anything from M12, I will be compelled just to order the complete m12 playset of unc/com so I can make a binder for it like I have for ISD block. Now you've got me thinking it's a good idea, when my m13 set will be here in a few days... *twitch*"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 913, AGar wrote:In standard, M12 doesn't rotate out until October 5th.
What is the point of having Civilized Scholar, to be honest? It's not really going to reliably flip I don't think, so I don't think you're using it to be aggressive (which you really don't want in this deck anyways). and it's not exactly great for getting those creatures into the graveyard. I'd more aim for something like Armored Skaab, that can sit back and defend and mills 4 when it comes into play in this deck.
Similarly, I don't think Pilgrim is going to really help you ramp all that quickly, because unless you put Cavern in, you really don't want to try hard-casting your Angels. Mana Leak and Vapor Snag don't rotate until October and odds are more often than not, actual ramp decks are going to have their fatties out first.
Civilized Scholar isn't relying on the flip, I like his ability (and playing him turn 2). The nut draw would be something like Forest, Hinterland Harbor, Sunpetal Grove, Pilgrim, Scholar, Defy/Unburial and any angel. If you don't pull two more lands by turn 4 (odds are you'd pull one), you would have used scholar to pitch unburial turn 3 and you can pitch/reanimate your target turn 4. If you're stuck with defy death, you pitch the creature turn 3 and beat face if its available. You're not using Scholar with the thought of trying to get in with him. It'd be a rare plus, I just like the free card advantage per turn.
Maybe he's not the most elegant solution, but he's also a body. Mulch + Forbidden Alchemy is great though."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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In post 917, AGar wrote:I think Skaab fits the purpose of the deck personally, especially with the defensive capabilities. Pretty much the same thing as Scholar, just up front instead.
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4 minutes, 2-0 round 1.
Opening hand game two was wingcrafter, wingcrafter, forcemage, familiar. I'm still afraid of boros."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Wow... played black with a splash of blue control deck. Got him to 1 the first game, 2 the second game. Flooded game one, didn't draw a single land game 2 (2 in starting hand). Win some, lose some."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Drafted M13 at FNM last night, first pack was a Thundermaw Hellkite. Went like 7-6 overall, but traded a Gilded Lotus + Rhox Faithmender for a Silverblade Paladin and two Zealous Conscripts for my boros deck, so I'm happy."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Im so hard for RtR.
In other news, I think white is great for drafting in m13. Ajani's Sunstriker, that bird for 1 that can only attack if you have a soldier/knight, and Odric's Crusader are just great. I drafted Boros since I first-picked Hellkite and it worked well. I find red pretty underwhelming though. I think White/Green is particularly strong."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Opinions on mono-blue mill post-SoM?
Running stuff like Jace's Phantasmal, Jace (Adept), Mind Sculpt, Dream Twist, Bloody Tome, and shriekgeist. Elixir for obvious utility, I figure Dissipate isn't too slow for this deck so missing mana leak doesn't hurt as much. There's that bounce spell for 1 in the ISD block, name escapes me. It's not exactly vapor snag, but it'll do. Thoughts?"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Yeah, Erasure is great with think twice/amass/jace's abilities in general. Does losing it hurtthatmuch?
This is where I'm currently at. I'll have to play test this when I get home, but I'd like to order my Jace's now so they're here for FNM/Saturday standard. Is there a hard-fast rule about # of planeswalkers in a deck? In a deck like this is Jace a 4-of? I figured 3 was good due to his cost.
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