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Post Post #3376 (isolation #200) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:39 am

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I...think relegation takes priority over points? It'd be weird as hell if a team won all of Spring, drops straight down to 10th in summer, manages to get the last seed in regionals because they won Spring, make it to worlds, only to be auto-relegated as soon as Worlds was over.
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Post Post #3385 (isolation #201) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:40 am

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In post 3384, The Bulge wrote:You can't milk those

You can't indeed.

Dig is still a bottom-tier team, but there is some promise for them now that they have a set team (...well, if Azingy's staying with Dig, anyways).
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Post Post #3397 (isolation #202) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:58 pm

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Well...that was unexpected.

Are TDK not going to get Kyle back?
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Post Post #3403 (isolation #203) » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:57 pm

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At least Hai can leave after setting up one of the biggest NA LoL dynasties since TSM in 2012/S2, maybe even bigger than that. Can't take that away from that team.
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Post Post #3415 (isolation #204) » Thu May 07, 2015 10:38 am

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In post 3412, dramonic wrote:Also Dyrus got smashed.
shocker

I don't think that's really the problem. Gnar was fine, and the Cassio pick justifiably threw them off. I think it was the Rek'sai and Cho'Gath picks that just didn't fit with countering Fnatic or really what TSM wanted to do. Especially Cho'Gath. Sure, it'd work against Cassio, but that's only if Cho can get to Cassio past Urgot, Nautilus, and Gragas while trying in some way to keep Sivir alive. It's possible they were going for a Gnar ult-Cho Q/E- Sivir AoE-Rek'sai AoE kind of wombo, I guess.

If Bjergsen had played, say, Kassadin, he might've been able to counter Leblanc's own assassination attempts by getting to Cassio and removing that sustained AP damage, coupled with Sejuani to keep Cassio or Urgot in place.
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Post Post #3416 (isolation #205) » Thu May 07, 2015 10:39 am

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In post 3413, Glork wrote:
In post 3409, Iecerint wrote:Holy fuck I've been missing MSI.

Trust me, you didn't miss much.

It only just started, it's not like you can say there's much to miss when there's not enough to say you can miss something.
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Post Post #3420 (isolation #206) » Thu May 07, 2015 10:45 am

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In post 3417, zoraster wrote:And people sure make a lot of excuses for Dyrus. Still, it's a long tournament. One game hardly means anything. TSM won both their LCS playoff matches after losing the first game.

I think that dramonic was putting a lot of unnecessary badtalk into Dyrus when he wasn't the reason TSM lost. Although, if he's not saying that Dyrus lost them the game, then I stand (sit?) corrected.

P-EDIT: I can agree with that.
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Post Post #3423 (isolation #207) » Thu May 07, 2015 10:58 am

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Wow. That was pretty nice by BJS.

P-EDIT: I think that Santorin could have made a difference on Sejuani after the early game with her ult, and thus would've limited the difference that Reignover made with his ganks.

PE2: Lol. Although it seems that it's not working that well now.
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Post Post #3428 (isolation #208) » Thu May 07, 2015 2:18 pm

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So...permaban Fizz against AHQ?
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Post Post #3430 (isolation #209) » Thu May 07, 2015 2:37 pm

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Although, I will admit that I'd like to see Dyrus pull out champs like Irelia and be the one to carry the game. Or get surprise games like 2014 Summer Semis G5 vs. LMQ. It's unlikely to happen anytime soon, but I just want to see TSM try to let Dyrus be the carry and see if that can work sometimes.
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Post Post #3432 (isolation #210) » Thu May 07, 2015 3:05 pm

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No idea. Not like it's hurting them right now.
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Post Post #3436 (isolation #211) » Thu May 07, 2015 4:58 pm

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Dyrus plays Hecarim? I didn't know that.

Not really sure about that, either. Mainly because I don't know how good he is on it.

I guess this pick/ban's okay for TSM...

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Post Post #3438 (isolation #212) » Thu May 07, 2015 5:30 pm

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Did they kinda lose that vs. SKT?

(Actually, I kinda think Dyrus dying in top helped them lose this time. I don't think Hecarim is Dyrus's champion, though I suppose it's all that's left if he doesn't want to do tele/smite Shyvana.
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Post Post #3453 (isolation #213) » Fri May 08, 2015 11:28 am

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What the fuck, TSM? Like, what the fuck?
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Post Post #3454 (isolation #214) » Fri May 08, 2015 11:33 am

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Like, I suspected TSM would probably get 4th/3rd if AHQ or Fnatic were good simply because EDG and SKT were effectively almost insurmountable. Their loss to Fnatic was understandable because of how WTF Fnatic's comp was (And because I think cho vs. Cassio is pretty good for cho, although I think Cassio was picked after LB). The loss to SKT is okay because it's fucking SKT (although even then Reginald had better games at S3 worlds than that). But that? That shouldn't have happened.

Also, Wildturtle needs to stop building Hurricane on Kalista when he's behind. Or just not play Kalista for awhile.

I think Santorin is falling to nerves like at IEM San Jose. Katowice probably went better because of San Jose and their success during the spring split. But now that Santorin is up against
the
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well deserved), it's like he's flashing back to San Jose and letting himself go. Unless BJK beats Fnatic it's going to be BJK and TSM out from groups. And then I predict it'll be EDG vs. SKT, with SKT as the obvious winner.
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Post Post #3455 (isolation #215) » Fri May 08, 2015 11:43 am

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In post 3452, mykonian wrote:Regi can't really let this happen, can he.

Heads will have to roll, right?

SOMEBODY'S gotta have their head bitchslapped.
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Post Post #3457 (isolation #216) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:12 pm

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In post 3456, zoraster wrote:thou shalt not speak badly of dyrus.

Hecarim does not look like his carry. Although he's never been given the chance to play Rumble at MSI, there's got to be something else he can go to if his tanks/support carries are out.
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Post Post #3458 (isolation #217) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:43 pm

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Wait wait...is SKT and Faker actually going to lose to EU?
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Post Post #3462 (isolation #218) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:50 pm

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Wow. That steal.

So who's gonna start mystery gifting?

P-EDIT: And an ace...Damn. Bang and Faker just can't cut through the 3 tanks.
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Post Post #3464 (isolation #219) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:51 pm

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Steelback dying like that would do it.
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Post Post #3465 (isolation #220) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:52 pm

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I'm more confident in TSM and AHQ being out, though. Its still gonna be EDG vs. SKT with SKT winning, though.
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Post Post #3468 (isolation #221) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:56 pm

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In post 3467, pickemgenius wrote:what the fuck was that flash????

that was a bug?


holy shit that would fucking suck.

It might've been. I missed it.
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Post Post #3470 (isolation #222) » Fri May 08, 2015 12:59 pm

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Holy shit...
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Post Post #3473 (isolation #223) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:11 pm

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If TSM beats EDG and Fnatic somehow loses to BJK, that means there's a tiebreaker, right?
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Post Post #3474 (isolation #224) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:31 pm

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Santorin needs Sejuani. Or to play Gragas better.
Dyrus needs a tank. Or someone like Rumble.
Bjergsen shouldn't pick Cho.
WildTurtle should get Jinx
LustBoy is fine on Thresh. If not maybe Annie or something.

Sion is good, Urgot is great, Corki's also pretty good--WHAT?!
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Post Post #3475 (isolation #225) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:50 pm

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Santorin needs to get his act together come Summer.
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Post Post #3478 (isolation #226) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:53 pm

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Or they need to eject him, or something. He has been a systemic problem for them this entire game. I know I said it's possibly nerves, but seriously.
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Post Post #3479 (isolation #227) » Fri May 08, 2015 1:56 pm

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In post 3476, pickemgenius wrote:TSM needs to just understand what they're doing doesn't against super good teams.

You can't ignore lanes. You can't ignore dragons. You can't pick poorly.

Well, in NA there was only Cloud 9 and occasionally CLG or Impulse that were a problem. But CLG isn't the same as Cloud 9, Impulse may not quite be there, and Cloud 9 was a shell of their former selves; maybe not with incarnation, but that's still a question.

NA just isn't everywhere else. And now it feels like it never will be.
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Post Post #3480 (isolation #228) » Fri May 08, 2015 2:48 pm

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Yep. I was right. Goodbye, TSM.
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Post Post #3481 (isolation #229) » Fri May 08, 2015 3:31 pm

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I will admit, though. I wasn't expect AHQ, of all teams, to be facing SKT for the right to be 1st. I expected that to be EDG.

Maybe it might be AHQ vs. EDG, but that remains to be seen.
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Post Post #3482 (isolation #230) » Sat May 09, 2015 9:28 am

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I'm glad Huni didn't go for Lee sin. He should know that it's not really ever going to work for him.

Kinda surprised Faker has Ezreal. Not sure if that was a thing for him.

I'm okay with this pick/ban, so let's hope the game goes well.
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Post Post #3485 (isolation #231) » Sat May 09, 2015 10:50 am

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Well, I'm glad this Game 2 is going well, but I expect it to turn around. And even if they win it'll still be, like, 3-2 in SKT's favor.
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Post Post #3501 (isolation #232) » Sun May 10, 2015 6:36 am

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So, are they taking Rekkles back, now, or what?
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Post Post #3508 (isolation #233) » Sun May 10, 2015 10:58 am

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But Febiven is the new xPeke now that he's pulled off his predecessor's namesake.
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #234) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:01 am

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I would ask if Link would go to C9, but he's gone, so.

I'm expecting a huge surge for TiP, Liquid and Gravity, at least. Where TSM ends up will hugely depend on whether or not they realize how bad shoving Dyrus away was for them at MSI and how dedicated they are to avoiding doing that again. I mean, he may be their rock, but even a rock like him needs its support. If they do, they might very well remain at the top (although the weakness of NA in general ought to be considered when weighing being 1st in NA against other regions). If not, then they'll probably just be middling and maybe surge come playoffs.

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Post Post #3548 (isolation #235) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:32 am

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Well, yeah, hence why I said they'd be middling at best during the season and probably surge at playoffs. Although it probably speaks to the region as a whole that a team like TSM can have such a staggeringly huge problem in the top lane and not expect a very heavy shunt to the bottom because the other teams just have more or bigger problems. Or more AND bigger problems.
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Post Post #3658 (isolation #236) » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:39 pm

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Yeah, they weren't happy with that win.
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Post Post #3736 (isolation #237) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:21 am

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You think moving the sports psychologist up to the coach position was bad, then?
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Post Post #3742 (isolation #238) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:10 am

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What the hell, TSM?
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Post Post #3745 (isolation #239) » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:22 am

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Maybe he was trying to hop over the wall? He would've been better off following Lustboy, though.
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Post Post #3758 (isolation #240) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:49 am

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TSM, what the hell are you doing?
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Post Post #3789 (isolation #241) » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:36 am

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In post 3788, MTD wrote:In other news, I like the Renegades rebrand^^ also Monte getting in on it is interesting

As a coach? That surely went well for CLG.

And why isn't Remi going to play in the LCS? Even ignoring the obvious rep boost of being the first girl to play in the LCS itself, I don't see why you wouldn't pass up this chance if there isn't something already lined up for you that you can't get a temporary pass for like with Carlitrollz.
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Post Post #3799 (isolation #242) » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:46 am

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And TSM pulls victory from defeat.

And C9 kinda fumbles against NME. Which is a team I feel C9 is still better than. Incarnation isn't fitting in very quickly.
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Post Post #3807 (isolation #243) » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:53 am

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Like man, I can't believe that man would just go an step on us like that man. Respect the man, man!
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Post Post #3813 (isolation #244) » Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:21 am

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In post 3808, BROseidon wrote:Balls is a shell of his former self. He's 2 levels below impact/quad/flaresz and a level below Gamsu/Zion/hauntzer

at least, so long as he doesn't get Rumble. Then he's the God of NA Top Lane again.

(I'm...guessing you're saying he's the same level as Dyrus? Or is Dyrus lower? I'm only guessing because you don't mention Dyrus here, nor Seraph)

In post 3809, BROseidon wrote:Frankly, it's hard to call who from NA is making worlds because TSM, CLG, TL, Dig, Gravity, and TIP all look really strong.

TSM via either winning Summer or most points (because unless they SERIOUSLY slump or make a massive roster change they are a shoe-in for either of those); CLG probably by a run in the NA Gauntlet (or simply by being 2nd-3rd and having to only face one team...although they've had a real good run of that in playoffs <_<); Liquid by having the most points, since C9 may not be able to hold up their 70-point margin without a MASSIVE surge this half of the split; Dig, Gravity, and TiP are pretty much going to have to win via the gauntlet or by winning the split because only TiP can possibly beat out TSM in points via a good ranking, and the other two can only beat TSM via a good ranking AND TSM placing 6th or worse (or probably 7th or worse).

tl;dr:
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By points: Liquid
By gauntlet: ...probably TiP, but maybe CLG.

In post 3810, BROseidon wrote:Eu is just going to be fnatic, Origen, and h2k

Most likely, yeah. Although UoL still has a chance to make a run.
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Post Post #3816 (isolation #245) » Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:22 am

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That's still within gauntlet range. And they've shown themselves to be pretty good at advancing up Bo5 series. I do doubt that whichever of those three is forced into being the final stage will lose to UoL, Giants, or Gambit, though.
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Post Post #3828 (isolation #246) » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:25 pm

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Holy Shit, Dignitas.

I still feel willies about trusting them wholesale, but I could believe them going to Worlds again.
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Post Post #3836 (isolation #247) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:55 pm

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Wait, I thought points were awarded based on summer split placement, not summer playoffs?

wonder what I missed...

And I will miss Turtle. That smile...
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Post Post #3837 (isolation #248) » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:58 pm

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I mean, Turtle helped carry TSM to two straight Worlds, 3 of 5 split championships, their first major international win in a couple years, and helped defeat two Korean squads in international tournaments (SSW in Worlds 2014, even if SSW essentially threw it; and CJ Entus at Katowice). I know that he's been falling back into bad position habits, but if nothing else Turtle can go out proud.
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Post Post #3848 (isolation #249) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:25 pm

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I don't usually go on Reddit, the hehll did he do?

What about Soren and Freeze?
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Post Post #3850 (isolation #250) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:22 pm

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He said subreddit. Idk what that changes.
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Post Post #3864 (isolation #251) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:44 am

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Well, so long as the current roster of CW stays, I want them to win.

They aren't doing great this game, though.
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Post Post #3867 (isolation #252) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:20 am

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To try and cover up that it happened at all, I guess. I bet Riot themselves were confused about it, too.
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Post Post #3868 (isolation #253) » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:41 am

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Gosu is just OUTRAGEOUS. Truly, truly OUTRAGEOUS.

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Post Post #3881 (isolation #254) » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:06 am

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In post 3880, chesskid3 wrote:I hope c9 doesn't jump the shark without hai

They aren't going to be in the regionals except by dint of having 70 points from last season. Even then I think TiP, DIG, CLG, TSM, and Liquid are stronger than them right now, so they won't make it far without pulling a White Shield from last year.
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Post Post #3888 (isolation #255) » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:32 am

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Shame they don't really live in the bay area anymore, right?
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Post Post #3893 (isolation #256) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:01 pm

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Has the shitstorm for it already flared into high gear?

I personally am not that opposed to it. Of course, I want Turtle to stay, but if Keith is simply gelling better now then I shant complain.

Edit2: I had something else I wanted to say, but I forgot. So I'll say this: Irony will be high if Keith wins the game against TDK with a pentakill as Caitlyn.
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Post Post #3897 (isolation #257) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:04 am

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I...Holy SHIT, That was the game of the week. UoL vs. Origen can't possibly top this.
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Post Post #3899 (isolation #258) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:06 am

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Like, UoL vs. Origen would have to be TSM vs. TL on steroids or something to top this.

P-EDIT: Neither did Huni, I don't think. That mid-game/early-lategame didn't go well for them. It was only because they rode out the super midgame spike between Ez and Corki to the point that Corki fell off and Giants' ONLY chance was Pepii landing the poke that they won, not to mention the small/large throws Giants did (like that Baron, for one).
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Post Post #3908 (isolation #259) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:17 pm

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Like, Hai retired because of his hand. Yes, he'll be a shotcaller, but shouldn't they be trying to find a new shotcaller or making someone fit the role?
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Post Post #3914 (isolation #260) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:23 am

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What ads/jokes?
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Post Post #3919 (isolation #261) » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:11 am

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Scumbag XWX.

Also, amend Caitlyn to Sivir.
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Post Post #3927 (isolation #262) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:18 am

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GP glaive+Shiv+IE+Luden's is actually a workable thing? I mean, it all SOUNDS like it does thanks to Parrrley, but...
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Post Post #3928 (isolation #263) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:05 am

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...How the fuck did CLG lose that?!
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Post Post #3933 (isolation #264) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:52 am

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If TSM lose against Gravity, from what I've seen it's not because of Turtle. They've just been countered at almost every step.
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Post Post #3943 (isolation #265) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:40 pm

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In post 3939, BROseidon wrote:It's not toxic that it exists (like AP Nidalee was), but it needs t have it's damage toned down a bit (maybe 10%). Gravity literally built a team around countering it vs. TSM, and when the counter to a single champ is "build your team to counter that champ and hope that the rest of their team doesn't really do anything," then you know that champ is OP.

Why was AP Nid toxic? I mean, I get that her spear/javelin had a ridiculous AP scaling or something like that, and the big heals that come with it, but what else was there?
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Post Post #3945 (isolation #266) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:42 pm

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In post 3944, Glork wrote:That's pretty much it. The spears alone decimates gameplay, and the big heals just made things worse.

If the spears alone decimate gameplay, why is AP Ez's Q or R not worse?
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #267) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:47 pm

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Challenger topic, but why would Jungle Renekton EVER work?
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Post Post #3965 (isolation #268) » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:23 pm

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I think TSM needs to stop playing Mid Ez. Yes, I know it's currently the most OP (although it shouldn't be in 5.13?), but this isn't working for them. They won against TDK with it kinda-sorta on a fluke; Gravity beat them with specific counters, and 8 just beat them via having just enough to get to Bjergsen.

And I don't think it's necessarily a fault of one specific TSM player in-game (outside of it, though, whoever said go with Ez against Gragas, Thresh, Maokai, and Azir needs a kick in the pants). There's still trouble with Dyrus, I think, and they're STILL so focused on Bjergsen that AP Ez is pretty much all on the mid-laner. Let him play mid-Lulu and let Keith or WildTurtle try to carry, or something.

As for this game in particular, I would've preferred Diana.
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Post Post #3967 (isolation #269) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:24 am

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In post 3966, Iecerint wrote:Has Bjerg ever played Diana?

Once, in that last fateful game in 2013 that set up that 5-team tiebreaker for 2nd and the tiebreaker for SK and Alternate. Also the one where Kevin majorly whiffed a Malphite ult that let NiP win. I don't
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Post Post #3969 (isolation #270) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:48 am

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I think the only way TSM doesn't go to worlds is if they get 3rd in reg. and then lose there. I'm expecting TSM and Gravity to be the top 2 seeds, and 4th place isn't low enough to put TSM out of 2nd seed, I don't think.

Cloud9 has the 2nd-highest but very likely isn't going to make playoffs. At best they'll be 4th-5th in Regionals, even if they make playoffs. with 100 points.
Liquid have the best change of making it to 3rd again (maybe even 2nd if they don't face Gravity in the semis), and while I don't think they'll win the split if TSM or Gravity are in the finals, they'll get the next best thing. At the same time, though, IF TSM are not knocked out of playoffs in quarters Liquid MUST place 2nd or 1st or else TSM will simply have more points and force them to relegation or 2nd seed at Worlds.

The other three (TiP, Gravity, and CLG) simply have so few points that their only options are to win in playoffs or win in regionals.
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Post Post #3971 (isolation #271) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:55 am

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In post 3970, dramonic wrote:If c9 makes it to world the way they're playing right now, it's a proof the point system is awful <.<

They'd have to win regionals, which isn't likely given their current form, so I don't know what you're getting up in arms over?
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Post Post #3980 (isolation #272) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:35 am

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Maybe 1st pick Sivir whenever possible?
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Post Post #3983 (isolation #273) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:59 am

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Not really sure about TSM being in there nowadays.
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Post Post #3984 (isolation #274) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:59 am

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How did that doublepost?

Anyways, I really hope TSM does something else other than AP Ez. Just plz stop, guys.
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Post Post #3988 (isolation #275) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:34 am

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In post 3985, BROseidon wrote:But Bjergsen!

Bjergsen isn't and shouldn't be the only carry on the team. He may be
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Also, AP Ez just isn't working with them. Maybe the comps for it are good, but there's just something in there that goes wrong for them when they hit the Rift. Maybe Runeglaive Diana would work better, simply because she has more tools to stay alive even if her burst isn't as stupid ridiculous as Ez's.

Gravity is the only team that looks worlds-worthy right now, anyways, with Liquid not far behind. If Dyrus could be given the attention he needs, Santorin steps up as a jungler, and whoever of Turtle or Keith they keep is allowed to tag team with Bjergsen to carry then I'd include TSM as well. Also YAY KARMA!
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Post Post #3990 (isolation #276) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:43 am

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In post 3989, zoraster wrote:I don't mean to make this EU > NA or anything, but I think NA teams would have trouble with not only Fnatic but also Origen, much less the Chinese and Korean teams.

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Post Post #3993 (isolation #277) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:52 am

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Dat steal...
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Post Post #3995 (isolation #278) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:58 am

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Dyrus, why the fuck're you building armor? Get some damn MR!
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Post Post #3999 (isolation #279) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:05 am

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In post 3996, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Btw general question I'm curious about. Is there a reason Soraka isn't played in LCS? I feel like she OP level right now, especially for these extended fights, and the Spirit Visage huge buffs to her.

Too immobile, and doesn't have the kind of burst that makes someone like Cassiopeia or Viktor viable. Might work as support, though, so long as someone like the top laner has a visage (Maokai top, Vlad mid, then?)
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Post Post #4000 (isolation #280) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:07 am

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Jeez, guys, why did you forget about Fenix?!

So many off engages.
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Post Post #4003 (isolation #281) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:16 am

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Like,
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Post Post #4007 (isolation #282) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:58 am

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In post 4006, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 4005, pickemgenius wrote:tsm is a bunch of timid pussies who aren't committing to anything EVER despite having maokai, shen, gragas.

Someone had a theory yesterday and it might be true:

It's that Loco and Regi are putting so much pressure on the players that they've reached a point where they think "I don't want to do anything because I don't want to be the reason for a bad play/a loss etc" so everyone just plays so passive and waits to be carried by Bjerg.

Though Regi said pre-game that he, at least, sees the last 4 games of the season as practice and that only playoffs and regionals matter (and they pretty much have playoffs clinched, much less regionals). If this statement is actually true, then it's either just Loco or it's because there's no real pressure that they're being passive.
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Post Post #4009 (isolation #283) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:04 pm

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In post 4008, Shanba wrote:Ugh Nien please.

Why did TSM lose to T8?
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Post Post #4011 (isolation #284) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:22 pm

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In post 4010, BROseidon wrote:Because TSM is bad.

An open letter to Locodoco, Reginald, and the active players of TSM:

PLAY AS A TWO-CARRY TEAM, NOT A ONE-CARRY TEAM! AND MAKE SOME DAMN PLAYS!

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Post Post #4012 (isolation #285) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:24 pm

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PS: And when you make plays, go for the right champion, please. Is this so much to ask?
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Post Post #4022 (isolation #286) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:52 pm

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Yknow, it always makes me want to look confused while shaking my head every time I hear a caster say "X player has such a deep chamption pool" but said pool is never utilitzed or even noticed in actual pro play. I just don't understand why high-level teams, especially teams like TSM, C9, etc., pick up players who have this as a plus but don't actually try to use it. I understand somewhat if the "deep pool" goes opposite of what's really viable in the game at the pro level(aka a support with Vel'koz, Soraka, Veigar, sona, etc. as their pool, with the obligatory Thresh and 1-2 other in-meta champs), but still
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Post Post #4030 (isolation #287) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:06 am

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If I didn't already have Fiora as my AD top, it'd be replaced by Jarvan IV.
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Post Post #4031 (isolation #288) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:19 am

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I feel like TSM needed a stronger AD due to the squishies. Maybe not a Jinx to match Kog for late-game spiking, but still. Or a top laner with a bit more power than Shen.
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Post Post #4032 (isolation #289) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:53 am

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Welp, TSM ain't gonna be showing up this year.
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Post Post #4038 (isolation #290) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:32 am

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In post 4033, zoraster wrote:turtle's valk's left something to be desired.

And there's a lot of time left, voided -- depending on what the goal is. TSM will have plenty of chances and time to make worlds.

Oh, I have little doubt that TSM will make worlds. I don't think they'll win the split at all.

I don't think they should have trouble with teams like CLG, Dig, or 8 since I think they'll still make it past the quarters. But who's really going to beat Gravity or Liquid? TSM? not likely. Impulse? Possibly, but not unlikely. It'll be TSM vs. Impulse for 3rd, and Gravity vs. Liquid for the Finals. Which'll still mean TSM gets in on points, but I have little faith.

Gravity, Liquid, and LMQ 2.0 are probably our bets. Still gonna get stomped by China and Korea, and Europe, too.
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Post Post #4043 (isolation #291) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:42 pm

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Holy shit, Shiphtur. This week has had pentakills in both regions.
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Post Post #4045 (isolation #292) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:48 am

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In post 4032, Voidedmafia wrote:Welp, TSM ain't gonna be showing up this year.

Small edit now that I've seen the rest of W8D1:

With both Gravity AND Liquid losing, TSM may still make 2nd. But they have to force tiebreakers with both teams or get uncontested 1st/2nd place. And since Gravity is only 2 games ahead instead of 4 (TSM loss + Gravity win), 1st place is still within reach...so long as they win tomorrow. If TSM loses tomorrow I really doubt they'll get 1st.

Well, and Impulse and CLG might have to lose, but so long as TSM goes even with CLG there's no problem there since TSM holds 2-0.
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Post Post #4051 (isolation #293) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:12 am

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Wow, CLG, you have seriously stepped up now. Both games so far have been interesting.
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Post Post #4052 (isolation #294) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:57 am

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Well, there's the TSM we know. Although they probly won't get top 2 now. Force a tie with Impulse for 3rd or 4th is their best bet.
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Post Post #4087 (isolation #295) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:20 pm

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THe 1st-place ties are
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With TSM's win, doesn't that make, like, a 5-way tie?
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Post Post #4092 (isolation #296) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:28 pm

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TSM still owns at least 50% records against every team above them, though, so if they beat C9 at the very least they should be guaranteed a 3rd-place tiebreaker. It requires CLG, TiP, and Gravity to lose, though, but that should make it only a tie with TiP and Gravity because they'd automatically seed higher than CLG due to a 2-0 record, or even auto-2nd since only they(?) have a 2-0 record against one of those teams.
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Post Post #4106 (isolation #297) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:04 am

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All TSM needs to do is win. All they need to do today
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Post Post #4115 (isolation #298) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:36 pm

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If TSM can't get themselves to either return to a 2-threat team in mid and ADC, or get Santorin to help with being a damage threat while Dyrus remains their tanky steady rock and Lustboy keeps ballin' at Sup, I don't think I'll have a lot of faith in them.

Although, I wonder if their singular focus on Bjergsen is directly because of Turtle's slump this split.
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Post Post #4116 (isolation #299) » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:39 pm

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(I mean, I haven't seen TSM vs. C9 just yet but just because there's a T8 vs. c9 tiebreaker I'm betting Dyrus is a strong tank but can't do anything, Santorin is average at best, Bjergsen dominates early but can't pull it through, Turtle doesn't help and mispositions, and Lustboy is their shining light but can't do shit from support.
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Post Post #4130 (isolation #300) » Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:52 pm

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Not including 3rd place matches?
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Post Post #4135 (isolation #301) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:25 am

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Are you gonna make a separate post like you did with Worlds?
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Post Post #4139 (isolation #302) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:27 am

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Giants are just falling apart.
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Post Post #4141 (isolation #303) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:18 am

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I hoped Giants would've actually had one win, but I guess not.

(Hito must've picked Giants for 3 or 5 games, and hip must've only guessed 4 games)
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Post Post #4143 (isolation #304) » Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:20 am

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Speaking of upsets, I think calling for Dignitas over Impulse is a bad idea. It's not as bad as Giants, but Impulse even without XWX is just so strong.

TSM upsetting Gravity is the upset I want, though...
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Post Post #4155 (isolation #305) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:25 am

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When did Froggen revive under the Roccat banner?

Or is bird no longer his word?

also, I seriously believe that Gravity has the best chance out of every QF matchup TSM's had to knock them out here, mainly for what BRO outlined. I still hold out hope TSM can make it through, but I still doubt it.

Although, if TSM DOES win then short of Impulse making finals they're guaranteed a seed due to points.
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Post Post #4157 (isolation #306) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:02 am

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Vizicaci (no idea how to spell that) and Hylissang are going to win UoL this first game. That hook and 4-man Tibbers was phenomenal (not to mention those hooks in that 9-kill battle).
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Post Post #4159 (isolation #307) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:34 am

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In post 4158, quadz08 wrote:UNICORNS ARE MAGIC

UNICORNS ARE MAGIC

UNICORNS ARE MAGIC

I don't remember if I had them win in 4 games or 5, so if they could lose their luster a bit I'd be thankful.
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Post Post #4163 (isolation #308) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:39 am

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UoL threw, like, two teamfights when they were so close to certain victory.

I just mean...how?
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Post Post #4166 (isolation #309) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:45 am

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Okay, Zor, can you plz tell me I picked UoL in 5?

I want UoL to win and get SOME points for picking the right number of matches. I'm going to feel very annoyed if I pick the right teams but the wrong games.
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Post Post #4168 (isolation #310) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:54 am

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In post 4148, zoraster wrote:
Day 1 Standings


1 . Cabd 8
2 . BROseidon 8
3 . Glork 8
4 . The Bulge 7
5 . theelkspeaks 7
6 . Shanba 7
7 . Nexus 7
8 . MTD 7
9 . Zoraster 7
10 . AstralFlare 7
11 . DDo 7
12 . jahudo 7
13 . Bins 7
14 . dramonic 6
15 . Animorpherv1 6
16 . Voidedmafia 6
17 . Iecerint 6
18 . quadz08 6
19 . Bella 6
20 . Siveure Dttrikyp 6
21 . FakeGod 6
22 . Gendaberry 6
23 . Voidedmafia 6
24 . pickemgenius 4
25 . Klazam 4
26 . hiplop 4
27 . hitogoroshi 3
28 . Espeonage 3

Just to reiterate, in these first QF matches, you get 3 points for a correct winner, 1 point for picking how many games it lasted (even if you get the winner wrong).

Btw, I'm on this list twice for some reason.

(although, it looks like I'm gonna shoot up to nearly 3rd if UoL win (3 pts. for UoL victory+1 for 5 games=10 points), or T3 or its equivalent if any of the 7-pt. players picked UoL in 5.
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Post Post #4170 (isolation #311) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:05 am

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If UoL wins, I think it'll look like this, roughly

1st (12): BRO
T-2nd (11): Bulge, Astral, Nexus, Zor, Cabd if he picked UoL
T-6th (10): Me, Siv
9th (9): Glork (picked 5 games)

And then a mess of ties at 8 and stuff. You didn't mention Cabd but said only two people picked Roccat to win, so at most he'll get 11 points for picking the right team but must've picked an earlier victory so won't get the full 4.

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Post Post #4174 (isolation #312) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:48 am

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In post 4158, quadz08 wrote:UNICORNS ARE MAGIC

UNICORNS ARE MAGIC

UNICORNS ARE MAGIC
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Post Post #4180 (isolation #313) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:57 am

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In post 4179, BROseidon wrote:I have gv over TSM in I think 4?

TSM over GV, but I think with the same number of games.
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Post Post #4187 (isolation #314) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:20 am

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Oh, yeah, I completely resubmitted when Zor included the 3rd place matchups.

TSM needs to set themselves up to need a 2-threat team so that it's not just the Bjergsen show. Bjerg-Turtle, Bjerg-Santorin, Bjerg-Dyrus, even a non-Bjerg 2-threat team is almost
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or else they will just lose regardless of their opponents.
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Post Post #4189 (isolation #315) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:24 am

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...Like top Olaf, Mid Lulu, and ADC Sivir. Coupled with Jungle nidalee there's almost 3.5 threats.

The objective of making a multi-dimensional team is complete, but now comes actually making it work.
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Post Post #4190 (isolation #316) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:04 am

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TSM TSM TSM TSM!
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Post Post #4195 (isolation #317) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:17 pm

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So TSM is showing up for playoffs so far, despite the loss.

Zor, I picked 4 games, right?
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Post Post #4198 (isolation #318) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:55 pm

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DAMMIT TURTLE! GIVE DYRUS HIS PENTA!
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Post Post #4201 (isolation #319) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:10 pm

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Bye-bye, perfection.



Btw, this is part of what they should've done at MSI.
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Post Post #4202 (isolation #320) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:11 pm

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YT tags, how u work?
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Post Post #4207 (isolation #321) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:57 pm

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Okay, that's fixed.

And yeah, BRO. I expect Gravity to pull out one unique pick, and I think TSM did, too. It's more that their one win came from an ill-advised turn in strategy on TSM's part, I think.

Also, if Dyrus can seriously do more of this, the amazing fantasy of a 3-threat TSM might be alive for Worlds.
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Post Post #4212 (isolation #322) » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:07 pm

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In post 4210, dramonic wrote:I dunno, if TSM needs to build their entire team around Dyrus for him to perform more threatening teams will probably be able to abuse that.

I don't think they need to build around Dyrus, they just need to realize the shift to top and empower Dyrus to be more of a carry.

Of course, making comps focusing on not-Bjergsen would always be a good thing.

BOOYAH, TIED FOR 2ND!
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Post Post #4231 (isolation #323) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:44 pm

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In post 4226, Cabd wrote:They disabled her player cam from what has been seen so far.

What're they gonna do otherwise? Blur her out whenever they do pans over Renegades from the studio? (or those shots of the entire team from the side)

I'm not gonna say she should let herself be seen (as in she's supposed to or obligated to), but it's still galling to me that she knows that reaching the finals means she'll be in the live studio in front of hundreds, with thousands more on stream. And if renegades win here (or in promos), it's going to be that way for however long they remain in the LCS unless she only stays on long enough to get them in. There's just no point in trying to hide at that point, and it seems like an insult to everyone watching who are fans of Renegades and fans of Remilia specifically, whether or not she's a girl.
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Post Post #4235 (isolation #324) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:16 pm

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In post 4232, zoraster wrote:Well she's been on camera so you don't have to be galled or "insulted"

Yes, I noticed that.
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Post Post #4274 (isolation #325) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:39 am

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In post 4270, Bins wrote:All the "omg she doesn't even count as the first girl in LCS" comments I'm seeing are disgusting. I don't think I can stand seeing those anymore. And she's proven she's not that emotionally stable, so I hope there isn't a major blow up post half way through the split where she says she can't take it anymore and that she hates everyone again and she has to delete her twitter after another meltdown.

But...she is, isn't she? At least as a player?
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Post Post #4279 (isolation #326) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:46 am

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Origen's gonna win in 3, aren't they?

Dammit, there goes a point.
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Post Post #4295 (isolation #327) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:51 pm

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So TSM vs. CLG is still a reality.

It's S2 all over again. And for some people, it'd probably be about time.
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Post Post #4296 (isolation #328) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:08 pm

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I think I have to hope Liquid vs. TSM goes to 5. I know I have Fnatic in 3.
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Post Post #4302 (isolation #329) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:14 am

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In post 4300, zoraster wrote:CLG has a pretty small road to getting into world via championship points. they need TSM to win today and Liquid to lose to TIP in the 3rd place matchup.

So really they need to actually win this thing.

With CLG's win, that means C9 will have to run the full gauntlet.

What do they do if two teams have the same points?
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Post Post #4305 (isolation #330) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:17 am

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In post 4304, zoraster wrote:the team that performed better in the summer playoffs gets the higher seed i think.

By what metric? Advancing the farthest?
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Post Post #4308 (isolation #331) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:37 am

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Roccat are the higher seed in the playoffs, so maybe they'll get the side pick.
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Post Post #4310 (isolation #332) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:01 am

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You mean Santorin...?
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Post Post #4311 (isolation #333) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:02 am

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I mean, Amazing might be a better jungler than Dom now, but he's not on TSM anymore. And idk if Santorin is better than Dom.
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Post Post #4312 (isolation #334) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:22 am

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Ooh, Riven AND Azir. And Sivir. Along with Shen and Elise, that's a lot of going in.

Btw, did anyone notice all the yellow klitchziness in the minutes leading up to the event?
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Post Post #4317 (isolation #335) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:31 am

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PENTAKILL! AND STILL PERFECT!

FNATIC! FNATIC! FNATIC!
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Post Post #4319 (isolation #336) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:47 am

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...Ohshit. I just realized I completely failed on the 3rd place matches and put CLG and Origin both to win their semi's and be in the 3rd place match...

THere goes my chance at winning...
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Post Post #4320 (isolation #337) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:08 am

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In post 4312, Voidedmafia wrote:Btw, did anyone notice all the yellow klitchziness in the minutes leading up to the event?

Anyone at all? It happened again at the 3:30 mark before TL vs. TSM...
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Post Post #4322 (isolation #338) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:15 am

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Oh, I thought that was to the convo with BRO.

Any idea what it means? I half-believe it's something related to a new champion. Or rito's just playing with us.
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Post Post #4324 (isolation #339) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:26 am

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In post 4323, quadz08 wrote:reddit thinks it's a new champ or skin

Hmm, maybe a new skin's more likely. I'm not gonna doubt the likelikehood that Riot has a new champ in the works, but I kinda expect such a champ to not be released until after Worlds. Or at least not be ready for pro play until after Worlds.
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Post Post #4327 (isolation #340) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:41 am

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I still wish they kept his old splash. Kog'Maw so happy.
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Post Post #4328 (isolation #341) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:52 am

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OH MY GOD, TURTLE! HOW DOES HE DO THAT LKAJLAKJF
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Post Post #4332 (isolation #342) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:39 am

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UoL don't have the chops to beat a team like Fnatic. Not like they are now. I'm honestly hoping H2K comes to worlds over UoL despite my preference to UoL because it's a case of Curse vs. LMQ last year. Yeah, everybody would've wanted Curse to go to Worlds for NA, but LMQ was the stronger team by a good margin and showed a performance I don't think Curse would've given.

In the same vein, I'd be happy if UoL were able to make it over H2K (because I think it's between those two if Origen isn't in the mix, otherwise it wouldn't matter because the final seed would be between which of H2K and Origien make it to that last Bo5), but I think h2K would do far better at Worlds and show the strength of EU better, maybe even allow for Eu to have two teams in the quarters (there is NO WAY Fnatic accepts anything less than getting out of groups, no way no how).
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Post Post #4339 (isolation #343) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:13 am

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In post 4338, BROseidon wrote:Or TL can just do a better late game comp. That works too.

After that kind of ace at dragon? I wonder if they'll reach late game at all.
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Post Post #4343 (isolation #344) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:27 am

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Hey, Zor, what're the picks for this one?

I have no idea why TSM fought the way they did for those four fights.
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Post Post #4348 (isolation #345) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:48 am

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And # of games?

P-EDIT: I just don't know what TSM is thinking here.
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Post Post #4351 (isolation #346) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:27 pm

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And now we know one team from NA who's going to Worlds.

TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM
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Post Post #4360 (isolation #347) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:46 pm

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OMG I'M IN THE LEAD!

...not that it's gonna last because I completely fucked up the 3rd place matches. Especially after I reminded Zor to include them.
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Post Post #4362 (isolation #348) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:08 pm

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In post 4361, BROseidon wrote:I can't get over how amazing Santorin looked in game 4. Like seriously where the fuck has that Santorin been.

The same place TSM was during the latter half of the split, I guess.

I really like how TSM can always show up hard at Playoffs and usually makes strong statements at worlds, but I honestly wish they could be consistent in the actual regular season as well.
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Post Post #4365 (isolation #349) » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:16 pm

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In post 4364, Venmar wrote:Inb4 NA wins Worlds!

That's our wet dream, isn't it?

They aren't going to beat Korea, though. They may make it through the 3rd seed, but SKT is a whole 'nother beast. And I'm positive that if China doesn't knock them out they WILL be in the finals again.
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Post Post #4378 (isolation #350) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:34 am

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Seems more like Vardags needs to add 1-2 more champs before the gauntlet.
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Post Post #4380 (isolation #351) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:37 am

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In post 4379, Venmar wrote:Atm I just want to see Fnatic, TSM, or CLG win worlds atm. I really want either NA or Europe to upset the other regions, this will likely be the Worlds where they might stand
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Nah, I think this might be the year China finally wins. I have my doubts that NA can match up to the far east.
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Post Post #4383 (isolation #352) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:04 pm

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In post 4382, zoraster wrote:An NA team winning worlds seems kind of laughable right now, but at least one should make it out of groups. I think that may have as much to do with luck of group draw as anything else though.

If TSM's lucky they can draw no Koreans again!
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Post Post #4385 (isolation #353) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:21 pm

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In post 4384, zoraster wrote:if they draw ahq and a chinese team their days are probably numbered too.

Depends on the team, though.

At worlds last year I believe the main reason they lost the games against SK and SHRC were because of complete overcofidence (in late-game and pick/bans, respectively). Of course, if they get someone like EDG then they might very well be fucked, but if not then there's a chance.
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Post Post #4387 (isolation #354) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:49 pm

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Post Post #4397 (isolation #355) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:59 am

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Now to watch my lead dissipate because I was stupid <_<
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Post Post #4398 (isolation #356) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:54 am

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Rather unsurprising result. H2K is just a more cohesive team. Maybe if UoL had a more central figure or at least didn't have such a predictable early game, or something.

(Zor, if I guess H2K and Liqud, can I plz get points??)
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Post Post #4400 (isolation #357) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:44 am

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*sadface.jpg*

Also, this is why H2K should go to Worlds. Or rather, why UoL shouldn't.
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Post Post #4406 (isolation #358) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:21 am

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Holy shit I'm still 2nd. I thought I'd drop down to, like, 5th or something.

So I still have a small chance if I don't drop too far after NA's 3rd place. Like...perfect points from finals? Plus hopefully guessing correct on 3rd place (I think I had that at 5 games, which is plausible considering how their last matchup went.

P-EDIT: Why? Because it's almost guaranteed Fnatic will win? I think they'll keep a perfect season (and my game prediction should reflect that) but Origin could still upset at least one game, or even the series.

It'd be cool to finally win one of these, though.
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Post Post #4408 (isolation #359) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:50 am

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In post 4407, zoraster wrote:No because only one person picked Origen and he's too far back to get close

Oh. Well. (I suppose most of the other non-Fnatics picked H2k, UoL or Roccat who don't have a chance anyways)

So why those three? It seems like they don't have enough points to reach me even if the remaining winners are Liquid/TSM/FNatic. They'd make up ground on Liquid because of my messup, but that's it.

EDIT: Or I guess that's more a 1st-3rd listing, since everyone else between me and Glork didn't pick the final to be TSM vs. CLG. So...I think I won already?!
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Post Post #4410 (isolation #360) » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:21 am

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They're guaranteed 3rd place points aside from # of games because I flubbed those, but all three of us picked TSM and Fnatic to win. If Liquid wins (and assuming at least they picked the right #) that'd put them at 35.5 at most, one point behind me. If I'm right then you tack on an extra 1.5 to mine so I'm at 38.0.

I guess if they get one of the finals numbers right where I'm wrong they'd win, but only if Liquid wins and they guess the numbers correctly, yeah.

Close stuff. Shame I'll be at work so I can't watch the 3rd place. I'm pretty sure I picked 5.
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Post Post #4427 (isolation #361) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:57 am

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In post 4425, animorpherv1 wrote:It's because TL got first over the split, and TSM fans hate anyone who takes first at any point.

I don't. :?

Well, If it was Impulse or C9, I guess, but not Liquid.
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Post Post #4429 (isolation #362) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:07 am

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I love Prolly.
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Post Post #4431 (isolation #363) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:59 am

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This is beautiful by Origen. This will be a well-deserved shutdown of Fnatic's 21-game streak.
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Post Post #4436 (isolation #364) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:50 am

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I'm Alistar! I'm helping!

Who picked 4 or 5 games for Fnc vs. origen?
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Post Post #4441 (isolation #365) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:27 am

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Waveclear because they don't have any otherwise.
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Post Post #4462 (isolation #366) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:04 am

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So it's all down to who guesses the right games, eh.

also, FNATIC FNATIC FNATIC FNATIC FNATIC FNATIC
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Post Post #4467 (isolation #367) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:58 am

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Looks like Glork or Jahudo's gonna win it.

Holy shit, where was CLG the past two years?
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Post Post #4474 (isolation #368) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:29 pm

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In post 4471, mykonian wrote:yay for eagles, freedom and doublelift!

In post 4467, Voidedmafia wrote:Looks like Glork or Jahudo's gonna win it.

Holy shit, where was CLG the past two years?



Well, past two years tsm had at least a half decent backup for bjergsen. And c9 was a team.

That doesn't mean CLG couldn't have been #3.
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Post Post #4475 (isolation #369) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:53 pm

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Where was the TSM that beat Gravity and liquid? The fuck're they doing?
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Post Post #4476 (isolation #370) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:00 pm

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Like, really now. What the fuck, TSM?

All props to CLG, but TSM did not play today.
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Post Post #4478 (isolation #371) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:04 pm

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In post 4477, mykonian wrote:well, that was a stomp.

and liquid/gravity had glaring issues, beat themselves as much as tsm did.

Yeah, I know Gravity did. And sure, Liquid did, too. But at least the time with Liquid had a bit more back-and-forth.

It was like TSM was running around with their heads chopped off this entire series.
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Post Post #4485 (isolation #372) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:04 pm

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In post 4481, zoraster wrote:assuming TIP beats the winner of C9/Gravity, which may or may not happen

Consolation prize for guessing the 3rd seed, maybe?

*puppy eyes*
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Post Post #4489 (isolation #373) » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:25 pm

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Even if they did, that wouldn't fly at Worlds.

My personal bet's on Liquid. Unlike Curse last year, they actually really have the chops to make it.
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Post Post #4508 (isolation #374) » Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:29 pm

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Until Worlds starts.
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Post Post #4516 (isolation #375) » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:38 pm

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Post Post #4529 (isolation #376) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:23 am

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So much flexing by ROCCAT.
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Post Post #4531 (isolation #377) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:04 am

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Giants are just letting Roccat dictate everything, from pick/ban to the game. They aren't doing anything to advance their gamestate, and when they tried in mid it was too little, too late.

I agree. Gambit or Elements would've been better. They at least would've been more active.
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Post Post #4532 (isolation #378) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:29 am

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Well, this pick/ban phase went better for Giants. It was terrible that they gave Fizz and Shen (and Gangplank) to Roccat, but at least their all-in comp around Sivir looks more cohesive.

Their inability to deny things from Roccat is bad, though
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Post Post #4537 (isolation #379) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:35 am

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In post 4536, zoraster wrote:no. i wasn't awake.



Giants is very squarely an LCS team only; apt enough to stay in the LCS proper, but not a playoff contender. Roccat is a playoff team, but not one that can advance farther than the semifinals. Giants is doing very poorly in and of themselves, but Roccat is just a better team than them which makes it very obvious who will win.
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Post Post #4539 (isolation #380) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:55 am

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In post 4538, zoraster wrote:did you mistakenly quote me?

Nope.
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Post Post #4542 (isolation #381) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:41 am

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In post 4541, animorpherv1 wrote:I believe Voided is comparing KT Rolster to Giants?

No?

My thing on the Giants is completely separate from the quote.
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Post Post #4544 (isolation #382) » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:07 am

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Well, this is a blast from two years past.
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Post Post #4558 (isolation #383) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:21 am

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In post 4557, BROseidon wrote:Yeah Origen is just the stronger team here >.>

Roccat's fighting back, tho.
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Post Post #4562 (isolation #384) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:30 am

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For calling Origen the early final boss, they sure have been stumbling against Roccat after that initial G1 win.
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Post Post #4564 (isolation #385) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:24 am

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Origen don't look happy, and they shouldn't be happy.
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Post Post #4572 (isolation #386) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:39 am

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In post 4571, zoraster wrote:I'm not. She's awesome, but she's boring and she lacks the "carry support" aspect popular support picks get

Too bad, I really like Soraka.

I'm really happy Karma AND Soraka are getting picked in pro play. Shows 'em that you don't have to be someone like Annie or Thresh or whatever to win. (even if having some manner of hard engage is always nice)
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Post Post #4574 (isolation #387) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:59 am

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That cancel was cut WAY too close for Impulse.
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Post Post #4580 (isolation #388) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:14 pm

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So is this essentially showing us why Sneaky is the only remaining good player on C9 (w/ Incarnation being 2nd)? I mean, he literally carried them.
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Post Post #4589 (isolation #389) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:24 pm

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OMG VELKOZ--

Wait, Gate, wtf you doing?
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Post Post #4597 (isolation #390) » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:12 pm

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Would Xpecial even PLAY Soraka?

As far as I'm aware he never even hinted at playing Soraka even in ranked practice from S3 to now, maybe even S2.
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Post Post #4626 (isolation #391) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:47 am

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Juggermaw and related comps, probly?

Juggervayne in this case, I guess.
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Post Post #4628 (isolation #392) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:25 am

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In post 4627, BROseidon wrote:I don't think juggermaw is good right now.

That's my only guess as to why. Idk otherwise.
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Post Post #4643 (isolation #393) » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:35 pm

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#Forever4th...

Well, C9 certainly embodied being the team that surged on the patch leading up to worlds. CLG embodied the team that came together in the summer split, and TSM embodied the team that held strong throughout the entire season. If nothing else it's a striking example of exactly what Riot wanted with this new format. Kinda the same way for EU. Can't help but congratulate C9 for this.
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Post Post #4657 (isolation #394) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:21 pm

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In post 4656, quadz08 wrote:Fnatic, I believe. He's the former poker player, no?

Yes.

And of course coaching in the LCS is going to lag 'cause we're one of the last leagues to actually implement coaches as an official part of the game.
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Post Post #4659 (isolation #395) » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:38 pm

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Yeah. keep in mind Korea has been in the E-sports scene since the
90s
and the release of StarCraft: Brood War (more or less, it may extend back to the very original StarCraft or to another game. They've had two decades to begin, expand, and refine their coaching while the rest of the world is pretty much only now laying the groundwork to even be a hundredth of what Korea has. And while other scenes may have individual players that can stomp individual Koreans (and very rarely teams that can do so, which is why it's such an accomplishment to do so for any region that's not China), they have more for being a cohesive unit.

I honestly suspect that while Pro League of Legends may help roll the ball toward infrastructure refinement, reaching anywhere near the same level as Korea may take longer than the life of LoL itself. I mean, it might not, but that depends on how quickly everyone gets on the train and starts making everything fit to last for LoL specifically and E-sports in general.
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Post Post #4676 (isolation #396) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:54 am

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THis game 2 seems to be the Pepper Show and reminding us why he was called the Thresh Prince back in S3.
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Post Post #4677 (isolation #397) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:24 am

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Is the Latin IWC on Twitch?
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Post Post #4679 (isolation #398) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:50 am

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In post 4678, zoraster wrote:if you don't mind it in spanish or portuguese.

Bleh, no thanks. I don't have that much Spanish comprehension.

I guess I'll root for Pain Gaming, though.
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Post Post #4680 (isolation #399) » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:31 am

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Did Dignitas EU decide on their new name/sponsor yet? Since Dig can't hold both them and their original team in NA at the same time.
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