LoL eSports Discussion

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No. A tournament bracket isn't shuffled around due to upsets.

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Dang yo.

Newcomers Velocity and Cloud9 combined 3-0 today.

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Hey, Curse look like a real team again. Even StV performed in that game against dignitas!

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Phoneposting, probably?

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Yeah EG are looking at a minimum 40% roster change, and I realized that I don't particularly care. They don't feel like a major player in EU, much less the world.

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Uh, that makes a huge difference. Consider ADCs, where one character starts with +13 armor, +7 AD, + 12 MR, and +12 ArPen. When you're talking a level 1 or 2 fight, one team literally has ~15% better stats all around. Quantic couldn't lane the way they would have liked.

And that's not even counting masteries, where not every Quantic member could take a 21st point in a tree, or build deep into two trees.

Take into account this is their first real event together, outside of comfort zones, etc., and it's a very significant difference.

Like, if you're basing anything off of that tournament performance you're probably doing it way wrong.

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Agreed, I'm excited to have a foreign infusion in the LCS potentially.

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all outcomes are equally likely except SKT 3-0;

welp.

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That was Dig/Curse. They played G1 as an ARAM for funsies knowing that the outcome would be determined based on their prior agreement.

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Petty arguments? On a Mafia site? Pfft.

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RxLee is Vulcun's (yes, I'm still calling it that) sub at ADC. And Lee said he's probably take the spot if offered to him.

That said, I don't think Zuna is on as short a leash as everyone seems to want/think. People are really down on them in general, but if be surprised if they're looking at relegation after this split.

I think the bottom three will be Curse, CLG, and Coast in some order or another.

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yay robertxlee in LCS!

This. RxL deserves it f'sho.

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Neither Curse nor Dignitas are in the market for a top laner. Quas has been a bright spot in an otherwise-mediocre split for Curse, and Cruzer fits Dig better.

If anything, I could see Dig snatching up Shiphtur to replace the probably-going-back-into-retirement-Scarra. It gives them two carries (QT/Shiphtur) and lets Cruzer continue doing his toplane thing.

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Seems quadz and I were both right. Dig snatched up both Zion and Shiphtur.

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I mean he was fine I guess, but not special like last season.

Don't worry. Last split might not have been very Xpecial for Cop, but this split will!

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Yeah but he's probably going to be ready by Friday. Idk wtf Nick is pulling other than stirring up TEH SOCIAL MEDIAZ, but I'd eat my face if Lustboy isn't playing Friday.

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Yeah but he's probably going to be ready by Friday. Idk wtf Nick is pulling other than stirring up TEH SOCIAL MEDIAZ, but I'd eat my face if Lustboy isn't playing Friday.

https://twitter.com/lolesports/status/4 ... 3351483392

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Didn't see the Dig-coL game, but the first three games today were boring as fuck.

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And baby costs CLG the game there.

Innox played that really well, though.

It wasn't just Baby. Chaos was hilariously out of position. I realize Innoc flashed to catch him, but Kog shouldn't be in flash-snare range.

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....YET.

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Yeah, dude.

I should put my "Best Gragas North Raleigh" tag back up.

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I like LMQ. Ideally I'd like to see TSM get knocked out.

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WHAT KIND OF ~SALTY THINGS~ ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

Also, in an ideal world I'd love to see C9 >LMQ > CRS > TSM but I guess we'll see.

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Gragas, mainly. The nerf to minion damage on his Q hurt him tremendously.

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...and Hai is about to become the first Westerner to make Challenger KR. (Was D1 99 LP with a 71% win rate last I knew, solidly ahead of any other NA/EU player.)

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Metros and balls.

Sneaky is not on the level of deft, deft eu, imp, etc, and lemon's strength is what he brings outside of straight up mechanical skill.

...and you'd argue that Dyrus and Amazing are on the level of top-tier world players? Are you legitimately drunk?

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UOL ftw!

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I think everyone's assuming that was a troll suggestion?

But fuck me, I'll try it. I'll play Gnar anywhere.

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Yeah dude. Knockouts are gonna be fuckin' baller.

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Keep in mind that barring some sort of negative fallout, Hai would be pretty likely to pass on a lot of his knowledge to whomever succeeds him as shot caller, be it Lemon, Meteos, or another mid. C9 might struggle for some weeks, and may not place top 2, but there's little chance they'd see relegation simply because the cohesion is so natural among the other four, and they'd have months to grow into their new 5th.

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His Zed is simply not as good as other mid laners. Mostly he tends to overextend to try to get a kill and winds up going at best 1 for 1. More often than not, he trades a solo kill for an assisted kill or just gets blown up.

Yasuo is consistently banned against him though, and yeah his Syndra is solid.


Edit: honestly, he's had some good performances as Orianna, too, but for whatever reason Ori has largelyfallen out of favor in the current meta. And his Zilean is passable, but again Zil has been consistently banned at Worlds.

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the only reason SSW is boring to me is that they've steamrolled. They have literally dropped one game the entire tournament, and the games they've won haven't really been close. But I'm not going to be mad at a team for being too good.

Fucking late-90s New York Yankees.

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Admit it, you'd root for a girls only team like crazy

Yeah, because Team Siren totally worked out.

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Been following Alexa for a while now, she's pretty hilarious.

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this means dig is getting absolutely gutted, since Zion has left as well

dig lost their soul after scarra left

wait, scarra left too?

whaaaat

OK, I really need a fucking list of all these movements. shit.

Ask and ye shall recieve.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends ... es_update/

Not sure this'll stay updated but meh.

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Not for currently existing teams. There is for teams that made their way into LCS (such as Team 8, or UoL).

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...and Vasili has familial obligations which require him to return home.

Honestly, though, there's so much sketchiness surrounding LMQ's management, it's probably not a bad thing for any of them. I almost hope they disband completely and XWX goes to another NA LCS team.

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I think Piglet's arrival is pretty overhyped. Doesn't solve shot calling issues, although it may take some pressure off of Voy/Quas. People are acting like Curse is suddenly Top 2 NA, though, and I'm not convinced.

EG is unchanged as of now, and I don't expect them to make any changes given how vastly they improved over the course of the summer split.

TSM will do their due diligence and get a quality Jungler. Expect C9/TSM to top the standings as usual, with CLG/CRS/EG giving chase.

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I mean, the cutoff for Challenger teams is Nov 2 I believe, so nothing is "official" until we know who qualifies for the tournament. But they are practicing to play Ranked 5s and try to qualify.

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I think Piglet's arrival is pretty overhyped. Doesn't solve shot calling issues, although it may take some pressure off of Voy/Quas. People are acting like Curse is suddenly Top 2 NA, though, and I'm not convinced.

Curse was going to be top 2 even if they kept Cop with their current trajectory.

They're arguably going to be #1 now.

Avatar bet that Curse will enter the playoffs 3rd seed or lower? Loser has to wear the winner's avatar choice through all of Summer Split. If you're so high on Piglet coming in, and Quas/Xpecial both being the best in their positions, I don't see why not. (And it's a win/win for me, because I really *like* Curse, but I simply disagree with you on how successful they're going to be.)

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Really cool AMA from Xpecial here: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends ... curse_ama/

I like that he straight up answers some potentially tough questions (about Doublelift, his ex-TSMmates) that most people would ignore or skirt.

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Nah Fusion is just really good.

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Scarra poaching punishment handed out. $10k from CLG and Scarra is ineligible for first three weeks.


It'll be interesting to see if they get a parallel punishment for Zion. It's all but known that he was poached in basically the same manner.

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I really like Piglet and have always liked Curse as an organization / team. The video of them volunteering time to play with kids was amazeballs. I am absolutely rooting for them to succeed.

It's also worth noting that FeniX's English is apparently pretty decent and that should massively help bridge any communication gap between Piglet and the rest of the team.

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FeniX's English is apparently pretty decent

Tbf that has been said about literally almost every Korean that has come to LCS, so unless there's a video of them speaking, there's no way to see how much "pretty decent" is :p

Watch him stream. He speaks pretty well.

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Make it 5-1.... What a sudden turnaround.

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I don't think anybody is calling TSM one of the top few teams in the world, but IEM Katowice is still a relatively noteworthy accomplishment.

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That was a worthwhile post.

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And here's the TL we were expecting all season.

Ehhhh p sure I rember saying TSM/C9 would finish 1/2 and Liquid would wind up 3/4...

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Holy fuck I've been missing MSI.

Trust me, you didn't miss much.

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The simple answer to FNC vs. TSM in a nutshell - have Santorin realize top lane exists.

That would have solved nothing. Gnar/Rek'Sai still loses to Cassio/Gragas, so Santorin going top would have just resulted in him burning summoners, possibly dying, etc.

The issue was two-fold:
1) Santorin took the wrong champ in champ select. He should have taken Sejuani or Gragas himself. They fixed that vs. BJK.
2) TSM didn't group up and place scouting wards to be able to lane swap. They fixed that vs. BJK.

TSM may sneak into the semis as the 4 seed, assuming they can upend AHQ.

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I'm so sad StV is re-retired. He did say he's open to coaching opportunities but that he made his decision/announcement too late for any positions to be open for the time being.

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It seems like it might not be the worst split pushing tool ever, but mehhhh. I guess it theoretically makes him more useful in teamfights when he's not in mega form?

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Depends on how it's coded. I did note he had a Black Cleaver, so I'm assuming it was for teamfights. Shredding 3 people's armor and doing bunches of damage seems pretty good, although he loses a lot of beefiness for it.

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lololol

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Krepo is seriously rocking that blue suit.

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Lack of pinstripes or suspenders rejects that hypothesis.

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I think Monte Cristo dressed him today.

Lack of pinstripes or suspenders rejects that hypothesis.

So about this...

yeah idefk

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Honestly I think Turtle needs a change of team/scenery if he wants to get his groove back. We've seen it with other players (Cop comes to mind, even though statistically, he was never actually *that* bad), and I think Turtle's just burnt out on trying to be TSM's ADC.

Keith is a mechanically gifted player and could be the breath of fresh air TSM needs.

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Renegades look like a phenomenal group of players right now. They have absolutely clobbered C9T the last couple of nights.

I think in the long run, Badawi's departure won't mean much for them (or for TDK), but it's a terrible short-term distraction.

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That's pretty much it. The spears alone decimates gameplay, and the big heals just made things worse.

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I am legitimately afraid to believe in Cloud 9. I can only take so much heartbreak in one week, and soccer has already squeezed it into a thousand pieces.

(EDIT: That said, I was wearing my C9 shirt today, so good juju please?)

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You did!

everyone but pickemgenius and glork picked UoL to win (Glork had ROCCAT in 5)
The Bulge, Voided, me, Broseidon, Siv, Nexus, Astralfire, hiplop had UoL in 5 games.

28 entries total, for context.

Right now, either BRO or Glork will be perfect after this game, depending on who wins (with 12 points).

Goooooooo ROCCAT!

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Buh, literally just that one G5 between ROCCAT and UoL stands between me and a perfect record.

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Doubt it. That'd be a significant change to give one specific player on one team an advantage. Casters & analysts talk all the time about nerves and being able to perform on stage rather than in the comfort of your gaming house. It shouldn't be any different for Remilia.

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I'd like to see Crumbzz and Alex such back in LCS.

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And tbh by game 5 I'm willing to bet she's just focused on the game / series. People are making a fucking mountain out of a molehill. It's shameful that most of the thread discussion about this series has been how much the girl is/isn't on camera.

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Correct, Zor, it's the 10-14 hours per day commitment, which is why it's even more baffling that people keep focusing on her camera shyness.

EDIT: WOOOO RNG WON! Like I said, well-deserved by some solid LCS veterans.

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UoL still way too inconsistent to be top 3. I'd put both ORI and CLG ahead of them.

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What a series.

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Yeah usually TSM fans are fine with TL because at least it's not CLG or C9.

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Zor can we see # of games picked by our remaining champion contenders?

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Seriously though. TSM has two big rivalries that (at least partially) spawned over them being able to fight for the top spot.

Man, that's almost how rivals are formed in sports!

It's like you're some kind of idiot savant!

Oh, wait. Yeah, that's right.

I hate Liquid for my own reasons, but I do appreciate the attempts to generalize my opinions into "just another TSM fan". I can understand the bitterness though, I mean, it must be hard to cheer for a team who picks up players from better teams and still can't make it to a finals.

Though, it might be related to the fact that you're basically taking the most toxic sloppy seconds from teams possible. Piglet? Xpecial? IWD?

Curse or Die of Shame, right?

lolololol

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That's pretty awesome, SAD.

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Hot damn, CLG.

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And yeah, Voidedmafia is eliminated. Either I get the reverse sweep or Jahudo wins.

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This series is really a win-win for me now. Either the internet openly flows with the salty tears of TSM fans, or I get a mystery skin.

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it might work. i feel like there was some advantage to doing it ourselves last time but i can't remember what.

Last time there wasn't an official pick'em.

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Xpecial is rumored to be benched/released. Piglet confirmed contracted through November 2016.

Supposedly, Liquid want Smoothie to replace Xpecial.

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NA 2-0, EU 1-1. Not a bad first day. Obviously it won't continue, but hopefully perception is starting to change about Wesr being so far behind East. (We still are behind overall, but the gap isn't as big as people like to say/believe.)

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And then Origen / LDG happened.

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Keep in mind, this is 3rd seed EU taking out one of the tournament favorites from China. I'm telling you, the gap is closing.

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I wouldn't say crushed. It was pretty close most of the game.

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YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHH CLOUD 9!!! GO NORTH AMERICA!

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Mmmmmm, Cloud 9 alone on top of Group B. (Although honestly, I would rather have had FNATIC win that last game.)

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lol, that was brutal

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Not if FW beats Koo (not super likely, but hey, it happened once already). Then they also need to beat Pain to go through.

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We must believe! The faithful SHALL be rewarded!

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WELP THAT SUX

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That said, CLG vs Pain should be a hilarious bloodbath because neither team has anything to fight for except pride. I hope to see Teemo, Heimerdinger, and Poppy picked.

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My alt account predicted that!

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Oh, the classic CLG tilt and collapse.

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Dyrus has indicated several times that he is retiring after this year, and for once it's believed that he's not just trolling.

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so Santorin, Dyrus, and WT are out.

You mean Lusboy? TSM has posted statements regarding Santorin/Dyrus/LB but I've seen no indication that WildTurtle is benched/quitting/retiring/anything:

As a result of these changes, Team SoloMid is currently holding tryouts for starters in our top, jungle, and support positions. Any candidate must have the following requirements:

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The more likely Morde/ADC comp is to keep Morde bot and play someone like Varus mid. Then you still get your bruiser/split pusher out of top lane.

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I have SKT v KT Rollster in my finals. I'm rooting for FNC but I don't see it happening. Hope I'm wrong though!

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Rito made skins for it so obv it counts.

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I mean, Meteos is putting together their challenger team so it's not like he and C9 had a falling out. I think he just needed a change of scenery.

PEdit: Yeah what quadz said.

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I don't care how much roster turnover there is, I will always be a C9 fan as long as they compete.

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Hai is presumably staying on the team. C9 are looking for either a Support or a Jungler, and Hai will fill the remaining position. **IF** Cloud 9 somehow manages to sign someone who's actually a ridiuclous shotcaller AND they can fill both positions, Hai would probably re-retire. But that's a big fat huge pair of IFs.

Renegades looks cool and I'm looking forward to seeing how they do in their first split. I really like crumbzz and Alex Ich.

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The thing is, RNG is pretty hyped up as far as teams go. Other than Origen, I don't think that I've seen this type of popularity/publicity from a team entering challenger as I see for people anticipating RNG.

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I feel like C9 wasn't that heralded until they actually started succeeding in their first LCS split, but maybe my memory does me a disservice.

EDIT: Like, I didn't know anything about them and mainly rooted for them becuase when they first joined LCS, they felt like underdogs compared to CLG/TSM. I compare their popularity as being similar to UoL, except C9 actually maintained success rather than being merely above-average.

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Ya, it's called the USA population

Uh, no. TSM sucks ass. C9 for life.

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FANTASY WOOOOO

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Oh hi there, Quinn.

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BUT THEY ARE A SUPER TEAM

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IT HAS SARCASM TO DO WITH EVERYTHING.

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They cited personality conflicts, which is perfectly respectable, even if Rudy performed better.

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No Zor, that wasn't from the match. It was from a scrim TSM had done on stage with anther team before IEM ever started.

Which is waaaayyyyyy worse.

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Just checking: no one is planning on going to Worlds group stages are they/need tickets?

I would really like to, but with surgery/recovery, I don't think we'll have the time or funds to do so.

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Because of worlds seeding giving EU two 2 seeds and no 1 seeds, G2 probably doesn't care too much about the result of the playoffs for seeding purposes (obviously they care because they should want to win and prove themselves).

Also, prize money.

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fw tough group
ahq not consistent

fw could defo make it out though. i just let homerism take over slightly.

Also that hard western bias at work.

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Make sure she learns and can do the dance (including voice components).

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look do you want airtime or not

This.


Gotta go all out, yo.

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Those sure are words you typed.

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This is great.

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TSM and IMT are still playing for prize money.

EDIT: As are all 3rd/4th place teams, I think.

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But hey, make sure you post to tell me who won between EU and NA so I know who to troll, cause I'm not watching it.

Being you must be tiring.