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Post Post #1872 (isolation #600) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:28 am

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Post Post #1875 (isolation #601) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:08 am

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Honestly, Brian, I'd just go warlock if you want to snipe.
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #602) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:20 am

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I mean Eldritch Spear has 250ft range, hits vs Touch, doesn't require you to burn a feat, no need to reload, and its damage scales with level.

The rifle gives you 1d12 plus some odd bonus damage if you dump feats/ranger levels on it.

You can always refluff Warlock to fit flavor.

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Post Post #1908 (isolation #603) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:53 pm

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Why would he try when I told him it wouldn't work?
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #604) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:02 pm

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In post 1724, FakeGod wrote:I won't play with the interaction.
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #605) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:28 pm

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Post Post #1913 (isolation #606) » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:06 pm

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Kat vs Danum thing is amusing to read, but your characters are built differently (Kat is off-tank DPS and Danum is support tank) and shouldn't really be compared.

Someone should compile a to-do list in thread, so you guys can figure out where to allocate each player.

I think I'm going to name the female gnome mage Two Prime.

I think the 30 min head start thing we did really help time-wise, and we should do it again for this week if possible.

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Post Post #1916 (isolation #607) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:53 am

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You can't just "kill Mycon".

He has done nothing against the law.

Magara's Will leaves all distribution power in his hands, and he DQ'd all heirs, and currently holds full custody over the estate.

Heck, he can kick everyone off the island if he feels like it.
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #608) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:00 am

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It's not only a Chaotic act, but also an Evil act to go attack him without a good reason.
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #609) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:16 pm

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Explosive runes won't work since they need to be read to blow up.

Shrink item lasts days, so carrying them around is not a problem.

Bombs are expensive, but I've seen similar strategy done with a giant boulder. (6d6 damage each)

Who can use Wall of Stone to generate giant boulders in bullet shapes, and then you can shrink them and carry them around.

Though if you ever were to walk into an antimagic field carrying these bullets, they would return to normal size all at once and you would be crushed and killed.
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #610) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:21 pm

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I dunno Who

I generally only let people use Explosive Runes as traps, and not for offense
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #611) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:22 pm

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wow only strategy you guys came up with to deal with Lord Mycon is to go randomly attack him?

I expected better of you people tsk tsk
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #612) » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:57 pm

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Which place do you guys believe is more dangerous: Dead Man's Cove or Damian Mansion?
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Post Post #1947 (isolation #613) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:17 am

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In post 1824, FakeGod wrote:Happy Leap Day, players.

Next session will be usual time Sunday March 5th.

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Post Post #1955 (isolation #614) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:41 pm

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I thought it was okay

is it really amazing?
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #615) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:57 pm

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But it merely entangles your target.

That's hardly useful.
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #616) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:09 pm

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Post Post #1962 (isolation #617) » Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:15 pm

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Wordings aside, don't you think it's bit silly to let wizards make people helpless with a ranged touch attack and no save as a 1st level spell?
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Post Post #1964 (isolation #618) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:54 am

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Nah, it is unnecessary.
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Post Post #1966 (isolation #619) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:55 am

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quadz already posted that picture

We will be playing in two hours or so

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Post Post #1969 (isolation #620) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:24 am

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Post Post #1970 (isolation #621) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:10 pm

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History of Lunar Island


“...the island wasn’t always called Lunar Island, of course. A century ago, the island was called Insulae Maleficarum, or the Island of Witches in Common tongue. There lived a trio of powerful witches at the far side of the island, in an ancient cove. They hatched a countless number of evil schemes over the years, but the most diabolical was that of summoning their demon master. The ritual required dozens of living humans, and believing in their superiority, the witches kidnapped openly from the town of Las Verisa. Many heroes from neighboring lands came to the aid of the townsfolk, but they were butchered along with the sacrifices.”

“...Just as when things looked hopeless and the demon summoning looked inevitable, a stranger arrived at town. He defeated the demon and sent it fleeing back to its plane. The witches scattered, never to trouble the town again… this hero’s name was Victor, and he would prove his worth again in the latter pirate invasion.”

[Inserted Handwritten Note] “...one of the witches was slain by [ERASED] when she attacked our mansion…but it looks like a replacement has been found...”


Light Blue Doll - Fear wrote:
No one returns alive from the mansion in the woods.

Do broken souls still go to heaven? Do they go at least get to go to hell?


Red Doll - Anger wrote:
Nolan died in no accident, but in murder.

What she have done cannot go unpunished. Gods above, I do not know if you listen to a mere doll’s prayer, but please let justice be done, this one time.


Yellow Doll - Surprise wrote:
There is still a Lunagard yet to arrive. He is stranded on the other side of the shore.

Old Norbit? You are alive? I thought you were destroyed in your mission all those years ago.


Purple Doll - Love wrote:
Do not lose faith. Help is on the way.

You are the most brave and loyal soul I have ever known, Old Norbit. I will always remember you.
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Post Post #1971 (isolation #622) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:34 pm

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Summary

No Two drinks and drinks. Eventually, he finds himself with no money, items, at 1 hp, lying
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Avina and Ether discovers that the Nolan's body is a fake. William gets enraged, but they calm him down. They find a note from Magara that condemns Lord Mycon. They reconvene with the main party, and decide to try and use a scroll to reanimate Nolan's body and freak out Lord Mycon. They ask Elliot to calm William down, and Karl and Kat go to Las Verisa to look for No Two.

Kat and Danum manage to make things smoother between No Two and Two Prime (the female gnome mage) and they rush the warehouse. Bunch of hooded men attack them. A half-orc is getting tortured by a very attractive woman at the back of the warehouse. They try to stop her, but the hooded men buy long enough time for her to teleport away with her prisoner. They capture one of the hooded bandits, but he seems incoherent. Two Prime leaves, sad that she wasn't able to help the prisoner.

No Two buys an Animate Dead scroll, and they prepare to return to Lunar Island at sunrise. Back in the mansion, Ether and Avina find a piece of History of the Lunar Island, and a handwritten note, in the library.
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Post Post #1972 (isolation #623) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:42 pm

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Players, please bring me your finest conjectures and hypothesis, posthaste.

I would very much like to examine your highest quality theories.
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #624) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:47 pm

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bah

your theory tastes green
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Post Post #1978 (isolation #625) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:06 pm

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I enjoyed Who's roleplaying of No Two at rock bottom today.

Danum isn't a bad wingman, but No Two kept disappointing her. I don't think Two Prime would be interested in a relationship with a alcoholic failure like No Two.

Having Kat for Diplo checks was really refreshing.

Warehouse fight went smoothly enough I guess, but I'm bit sad that you guys all just fell over to your knees by a single spell. (KNEEL FOOLS)

Discovering the fake body required a DC 26 spellcraft check. Good thing Ether rolled wonderfully there.

As you guys may have noticed, most of the pieces to the puzzle are there now. I hope you guys are ready for some very difficult fights up ahead.
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #626) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:03 pm

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Post Post #1984 (isolation #627) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:17 pm

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What was No Two going to do?
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #628) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:19 pm

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Also, keep in mind that you can prepare lower level spells in your 5th level slots.
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #629) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 1986, Who wrote:Either kill himself or or find and kill Marion then kill himself/flee the country.

Holy shit.

This got dark quickly.

Why such escalation?
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #630) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:38 pm

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I'm going to ask a question we're all curious about.

No Two x Two Prime. Is it going to happen? How does No Two feel about it?
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Post Post #1995 (isolation #631) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:29 pm

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In post 1993, ConManMick wrote:

Yeah I looked into it before, basically just extra hitpoints specifically for arrow related damage, if I understand correctly. I just wanted to limit DPS of the opposition

Now that you're wielding a magic bow, your arrows will penetrate the damage reduction.

10/Magic means subtract 10 damage from each arrow, unless the arrow is enchanted.

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Post Post #1996 (isolation #632) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:31 pm

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In post 1992, Who wrote:Also I shall now ship all the humans.
Karl/Evans, Kat/Gundabog, Danum/AnyoneButAlice, Avina/Serria, Ether/Jin.

this is hilarious

it's like you picked the worst possible matchup you could think of for each player

you also missed Lor
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Post Post #1999 (isolation #633) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:04 pm

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In post 1991, Who wrote:It won't happen, No Two is drunk and was last seen hitting on a table. (It wasn't shown, but it happened. The table laughed, he killed the table)

But if No Two marries Two Prime, her name will become Two Two.

Did you consider that?
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #634) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:56 pm

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With that kind of attitude, No Two will never get a girlfriend!
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #635) » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:34 pm

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Ok, enough about Two Prime.

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Post Post #2009 (isolation #636) » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:17 am

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Next session is on March 13th Sunday.

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Post Post #2014 (isolation #637) » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:03 am

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In post 2011, Brian Skies wrote:Warforged looks like a really strong race.

Yeah, warforged is a regular pick for my RL group.

Note that healing and cure spells in general only heals for half on warforged, and you do not recover hp from rest.
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #638) » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:11 am

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yeah, repair spells are in complete arcane
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #639) » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:39 pm

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Post Post #2026 (isolation #640) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:54 am

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Post Post #2027 (isolation #641) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:21 am

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Today is the day the Daylight Savings Time went into effect, time here is an hour earlier than usual.

This probably means people will be an hour late I'd imagine, which is too bad.
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Post Post #2028 (isolation #642) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:44 pm

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Summary.

Elliot, Primrose, and Obob have been taken away to the cove. PCs fight through a horde of undead, witches, just to see Primrose, Mycon, and Obob get sacrificed to summon a demon lord. Serria completes the summoning and stands there dazed, as the demon lord crashes into the party's frontline. It was close, but the party defeats the demon lord. Serria is no longer brainwashed.
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #643) » Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:49 pm

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Summary fixed.

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Post Post #2036 (isolation #644) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:55 pm

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Old Norbit's Tale


After you defeat the witches, draconic runes begin to glow on the side of the cove. Quick spellcraft check reveals that the presence and resonance of the soul gem fragments is what triggered the runes to glow.

Sections of it have been weathered away, but you can make out most of the written characters. This is what it says:

......with the pirate Redford's defeat, we thought the days of fighting were behind us. That was not to be. Rislyn, Redford's demonic lieutenant and lover, has survived the defeat of her master, took advantage of the massive number of death and casualties of the conflict to create a rift to the abyssal plane under the island keep. Victor and my master fought underground to keep the demons contained, while Luna prayed to her goddess to reveal a way to seal the rift. Lytana answered her prayer by uncovering the Oceanic Heart deep beneath the surface. The rift can be suppressed in the presence of the artifact’s overwhelming magical aura...

....My master sent me, his strongest and most loyal servant, to retrieve the artifact, and shut himself in his workshop to craft additional reinforcements. Luna and Victor, aided by a constant stream of Damian's machines, should have been enough to hold the demons at bay indefinitely...

....It took me about two weeks to travel the vast underwater distance to retrieve the artifact. When I finally returned to my master's mansion, I was met with a tragic sight. My master had been murdered! And something has hurt him enough to have his spirit cling to this world beyond death. In his agony and insanity, he has murdered all of his servants, ripped their souls out, and put them into dolls and constructs, to unquestioningly serve his will for eternity. Their souls power the machines, but their spirits slumber...

...I immediately left for the Lunagard Keep, for surely priestess Luna would be able to help. Not a living soul greeted me at the keep. I slowly made my way to the underground battleground, expecting to find the demonic gate fully open. Instead, I was barred from going further by a ghost. I almost didn't recognize her at first, but it was Luna! or at least what was left of her spirit. I was unable to communicate with her, but after weeks of investigations and hunting down for spell traces, I was finally able to deduce what happened. Treacherous Rislyn had ambushed my master in his workshop under a disguise to make her look like Luna. Her demonkind specializes in impersonating clerics, and in his state of mental and physical exhaustion from nonstop production of machines, my master fell, undoubtedly cursing Luna for her betrayal. It would be some time before my master's vengeful spirit rose, and in the meantime, Rislyn had put all of the servants to sleep and hidden them away. When Luna visited my master's mansion to inquire why the machine reinforcements have stopped, she discovered the mansion to be completely empty, creating a deception that Damian has fled. In desperation, Luna cast a powerful spell to keep her spirit chained to keep's underground, and sealed it all. I do not know what happened to Victor, but I suspect that he was eventually overcome against the overwhelming numbers of the demonic horde...

...Rislyn has been on the hunt for me ever since she realized I had survived. I have managed to evade her so far...

...The nearby presence of the Oceanic Heart blocked the demons from crossing into the Material Plane. Unfortunately, the artifact was shattered during Turin's invasion. It will only be a matter of time before demons break through Luna's ward and surface. In addition, the old Coven has returned to the island and have infiltrated the Lunagard Mansion....

...I am going to attempt to risk contacting Millicent, our master's head maid. Based on remote observation, her spirit seems to have awakened. I will relay her all I know. I will most likely be hunted down by Rislyn afterwards. I do not fear death, but I wish that I could see my master smile just one more time...
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Post Post #2039 (isolation #645) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:02 am

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In case it wasn't clear, Old Norbit was the wrecked giant machine you guys saw in Karl's first visit to the Witch's Cove.
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Post Post #2041 (isolation #646) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:58 am

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Players, make sure to level up your characters to lv 10 before the next session.

We will play on Sunday March 20th. Please post your availabilities.

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Post Post #2042 (isolation #647) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:48 am

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I'm going to also give away what happened after Norbit contacted Millicent, since Rook is going to reveal all this after you guys return from the cove.

Millicent, indeed, was awake, but still bound by Damian's will, which meant she was bound to the premises. Norbit told her everything he knew, and asked her to split her soul gem. She was hesitant to do so, but she understood the significance of what's at stake here, and obliged. By fragmenting her soul gem, it allowed her to split identity into multiple dolls. She lost all emotions that day, and her emotionless self remains at the Damian mansion. The other six dolls infiltrated the Lunagard Mansion, some of them taking the places of the servants there. (real Rook and Bishop were put to sleep and hidden) She bid her time, watching over the visitors and the heirs, to see which of them could be trusted and able to help. The PCs defeating the witches and finding Old Norbit's message convinced her that they can be trusted.

Rook is the final doll, the Green doll of Joy. After his explanation, his appearance fades away, revealing him for the doll he is. Millicent asks the PCs to come to the Damian mansion, defeat the mockery of what his master once was, and finally put his spirit to rest.
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #648) » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:52 pm

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Here is what you need to know:

Party is going to fight robots at the haunted mansion on Sunday.
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #649) » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:47 am

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In post 2048, GuyInFreezer wrote:Hmm is it possible to get the wand of invisibility, swift?

This used to not work, because using magic item is a standard action, but WotC errata'd their rules to clarify that wands that cast spells with swift action only require a swift action to cast.

So it would work, yes.

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Post Post #2078 (isolation #650) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:43 am

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Players, we will be playing in 3 hrs and 17 minutes.

Please finish leveling up, refresh spells, and buy gear.
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Post Post #2080 (isolation #651) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:48 am

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Post Post #2082 (isolation #652) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:59 am

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Post Post #2084 (isolation #653) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:09 am

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Also, apparently you are not wearing any armor????

See if your teammates wouldn't mind you buying a +1 Mithral Chain Shirt with the party cash. (it costs 2100g and gives you 5 armor bonus to AC)
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #654) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:37 am

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ConMan, I would recommend getting a +1 Holy Longbow (costs 18600g), and also getting some adamantine tipped arrows. (costs 60g each)
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Post Post #2092 (isolation #655) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:44 am

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You saw how ineffective your party was at dealing damage vs Damage Reduction.

Losing Brian in a boss fight in a no teleport zone means game over, unless you guys come up with a secondary source of damage.
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #656) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:55 am

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Can't? or Won't?
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #657) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:00 am

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Post Post #2100 (isolation #658) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:56 am

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Post Post #2102 (isolation #659) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:13 am

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Summar

PCs traveled down into the Damian mansion and fought off the constructs. They eventually defeated Damian's revenant. An insanely lucky Caster level check by GIF was involved.

NO session next week.

Week after that, we have the final session of this campaign, where PCs go down into the Lunagard keep basement and fight off the invading demons.
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #660) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:35 pm

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We had the full party there today!

And it was basically a pure exploration and combat challenge!

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Post Post #2109 (isolation #661) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:49 am

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Heart of air is good for setting up the other hearts.

Swift fly is also 2nd level iirc.
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #662) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:11 pm

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In post 2114, GuyInFreezer wrote:I think Brian is going wild shape based druid so I should go summoner druid but I feel like if I'm gonna focus on summoning I will have a better option than a druid.

OR SNEAK ATTACK RAY BUILD???


There are two problems with summoning builds. You can fix one with a super well done macros and decisiveness, but you can't fix the other one.

First problem is the gameplay time consumed by such builds. It's very easy for a player to take up double, triple, or even quadruple amount of time his/her party members take up when he/she is trying to control 5 different creatures at once. This problem can be somewhat alleviated by planning out your turn in your head and writing out easy-to-read macros.

Second problem is how the summoning itself is handled in the system. Generally, summoned creatures are very weak, for obvious balance reasons. Couple with the fact that summon spells take 1 round to cast and are easy to interrupt, and that intelligent foes know not to focus your summons, trying to swarm the enemy with mooks is generally inefficient and/or ineffective. (for example, fighting an army of zombies with an army of zombies is generally ineffective and just takes up time, as opposed to turning them, fireball, or buffing a barbarian who has the cleave feat)
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Post Post #2122 (isolation #663) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:13 pm

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Sneak attack ray builds depends heavily on how much of rogue and how much of spellcasting (or warlock) you want to mix.

They are very viable, very fun to play, and very difficult to pull off.
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Post Post #2123 (isolation #664) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:14 pm

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Ranged sunder builds require an awesome amount of strength.
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Post Post #2125 (isolation #665) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:24 pm

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Assassin IS a difficult class!

Swiftblade is playable, but it's pretty gimmicky.
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Post Post #2128 (isolation #666) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:10 pm

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yeah, it's a shame

everyone is being so wishywashy with their characters and no one is locking in anything

at this rate brian will have to pick barbarian and carry cabbage again
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Post Post #2131 (isolation #667) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:24 pm

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it's "ok", according to the player who gave it a try

he never played it again though
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Post Post #2132 (isolation #668) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:26 pm

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I thought you were going to actually learn how to play the internet build?

Or did you gave up after seeing how bad conjuerers fall off after 7?
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Post Post #2135 (isolation #669) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:45 pm

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Well, there are lots of fish in the sea, and by that I mean there are ton of builds for you to try.
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #670) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:02 pm

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Every specialist build works, Who. They each have their own weaknesses and strengths.

Diviner is basically a generalist.
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #671) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:06 pm

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In post 2140, Who wrote:Oh, also, spontaneous divination from Complete Champion, you have to know the divination spell you're spontaneously using, right?

yep

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Post Post #2144 (isolation #672) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:09 pm

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Who, TPK happened also partly because people didn't know what the fuck they were doing
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #673) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:02 pm

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Barb 1/Fighter N?

Frenzied berserker y/n?
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Post Post #2154 (isolation #674) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:12 pm

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MONKEY GRIP?
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #675) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:28 pm

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Well, you get special abilities like uncanny dodge.

Uncanny dodge makes you near immune to sneak attacks.
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Post Post #2158 (isolation #676) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:30 pm

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There are some good rage feats you should consider.

i.e. Extra rage, instantaneous rage, Mad foam rager, etc
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Post Post #2161 (isolation #677) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:21 pm

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I am ready to see Brian carry cabbage again.
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #678) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:38 pm

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In post 2160, Who wrote:using the alternate class feature domain access from complete champion.

Note that with that ACF, a sorcerer can cast each of the domain spells just once per day.
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Post Post #2165 (isolation #679) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:13 am

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Bards are playable-ish.

Probably categorized as cabbage.
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Post Post #2167 (isolation #680) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:22 am

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Cabbage = Baggage.

As in something that needs to be carried.
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Post Post #2169 (isolation #681) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:26 am

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A chronic problem the ms party suffers from is that everyone wants to play support classes.

Early parties ended up with no damage, and resulted in many player deaths.
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Post Post #2174 (isolation #682) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:51 pm

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I don't allow Evil alignment.

Why does your build require an evil cleric?
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Post Post #2179 (isolation #683) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:01 pm

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In post 2177, Who wrote:Also you could just make a wizard necromancer, where does cleric come in?

Because clerics get earlier access to animate dead, they make better minionmancers. (necromancy wise)
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Post Post #2193 (isolation #684) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:29 am

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Changeling has the shapechanger subtype, which qualifies it for the War Shaper prC.

It's a very viable build. I've seen it done once in the pre-power attack optimization era, and it dominated the board.
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Post Post #2195 (isolation #685) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:58 am

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But what happened to wizard supremacy?
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #686) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:53 am

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Uh, DS, you do know that we're not doing any non-combat, right?
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Post Post #2202 (isolation #687) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:18 am

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so DS is going enchanter then?

We currently have:

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Post Post #2205 (isolation #688) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:11 pm

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In post 2203, ConManMick wrote:FG how do clerics get their armour and shit?

Pay gold?
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Post Post #2207 (isolation #689) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:19 pm

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You don't get to start with full plate.

Brian didn't get his full plate until lv 4 or something with this his current character.
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Post Post #2209 (isolation #690) » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:49 pm

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In post 2202, FakeGod wrote:so DS is going enchanter then?

We currently have:

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Hanasawa: Ninja?


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Post Post #2211 (isolation #691) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:00 am

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Post Post #2212 (isolation #692) » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:12 am

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In post 2204, DiamondSentinel wrote:I might. I have 3 I'm considering. Enchanter, Summoner, or (unlikely) Bard.

I seem to also recall that you were considering warlock, or are you no longer interested in it?


In post 2210, lilith2013 wrote:I may be a tanky thing.

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Post Post #2225 (isolation #693) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:17 am

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Post Post #2232 (isolation #694) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:58 pm

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It sounds like Lilith will not be playing Duskblade.

Are you interested in playing Duskblade, DS?
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #695) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:07 pm

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Hmm, if you are just seeking to enter swiftblade, why not just go sorcerer 6 into Swiftblade?
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Post Post #2236 (isolation #696) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:14 pm

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While swiftblade has gish flavors, the strongest swiftblade build path by far is the wiz 6 or sorc 6 directly into swiftblade.
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Post Post #2240 (isolation #697) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:21 pm

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this is major news

I sense major shifts about to happen in the future party composition
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #698) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:45 pm

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Screw BAB, DS. You get to use the wizard spell list if you go sorcerer (or wizard).
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #699) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:50 pm

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ugh I dunno man

just play whatever I guess
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #700) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:10 pm

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Brian, if you are going wizard, which school are you going to specialize and ban? (or are you going generalist?)
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Post Post #2264 (isolation #701) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:17 pm

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DS, haste doesn't let you cast two standard action spells in one turn.

But, if you have 9 levels in swiftblade, you get
perpetual options
if you're under haste, which actually grants you an additional standard action if you wish, which you could use to cast a second standard action spell.
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #702) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:41 pm

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@Brian: Only from items!

You don't actually get to "cast" wizard spells.
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Post Post #2295 (isolation #703) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:05 am

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no
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #704) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:21 am

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Leap attack is better.
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #705) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:31 am

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Gun Mage has been updated.

Gun Mage now has access to Weapon Focus feat tree.

Gun Mage spell list is same as sorcerer's with few select bard spells added.
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Post Post #2301 (isolation #706) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:37 am

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Focused specialist, or nah?


I mean Master Specialist, or nah?
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #707) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:43 pm

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wooooo ConMan locking in

don't worry ConMan; cleric class is so strong that you can choose suboptimal builds for RP reasons and still easily pull your weight


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Post Post #2311 (isolation #708) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:53 pm

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same thing for wizard
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Post Post #2327 (isolation #709) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:26 pm

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Brian, I demand a well-written post explaining your thought process that led you to make the character build changes you have described in thread so far.

I am curious.
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #710) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:52 pm

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go ahead
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Post Post #2332 (isolation #711) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:55 pm

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I'm on site chat
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Post Post #2334 (isolation #712) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:33 pm

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alright
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Post Post #2340 (isolation #713) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:21 pm

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Brian I forgot to mention that your PM was well-written and I enjoyed reading it.
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Post Post #2350 (isolation #714) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:45 am

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Just think about what would happen.

Bunch of wizards are walking around in a cave. Bunch of goblins jump out and surround them.

What can the wizards even do at that point?
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Post Post #2352 (isolation #715) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:52 am

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Enchanter starts casting sleep. Illusionist casts color spray and disable couple. Transmuter looks around sadly for someone to cast enlarge person on and realize he needs a melee PC ally to be effective. Necromancer shoots ray of enfeeblement and weakens one. Evoker casts magic missile and damages 1. Abjurer casts shield. Conjurer casts grease to try and block off a side. Diviner can't do anything.

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Post Post #2357 (isolation #716) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:33 am

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Oh, by the way guys, I decided to allow Favored Soul (from Complete Divine) as one of the playable classes.
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Post Post #2366 (isolation #717) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:27 am

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DS, your assessment is correct. It would be a decent class if it weren't for the cleric BAB.

It's early game is decent enough, but it falls off quickly as we progress through the levels.
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Post Post #2385 (isolation #718) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:19 pm

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18 Con, here we go.

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Post Post #2386 (isolation #719) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:51 pm

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In post 2384, DiamondSentinel wrote:Nice little backstory. A bit cliché, but it also leaves a bit open for further additions. I think it would be cool if we developed back stories that were intertwined. But then again, I really like the story aspect more than the combat itself, and I know some of you think otherwise.

DS, I know I said this before, but we will be playing a COMBAT dominated campaign next. (sharply contrasted with the current campaign, which had a ton of RP elements)

Perhaps it would be best if you sit out this campaign and join back in when we enter a more RP-heavy segment? (LLD also much prefers RP over combat, which is one of the reasons why I asked her to play with us in the last act of Lunagard campaign, and also why she will not be joining us for the next)
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #720) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:15 pm

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DS, if I didn't want you to play, I'd just kick you.

The reason I'm asking is because if I was a player, I would step away from a board if my DM told me ahead that the campaign is going be very minimally combat. While I respect players who prefer RP over combat, I know I wouldn't have much fun as a player if there was going to be very little combat involved.
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Post Post #2391 (isolation #721) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:51 pm

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Ok, DS.

Who, you're not taking extra rage? That means you can only rage once per day. Are you ok with that?
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Post Post #2393 (isolation #722) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:28 pm

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If you're not taking extra rage, then don't take MFR.
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Post Post #2399 (isolation #723) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:37 pm

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In post 2394, Who wrote:If one feat has another as a prereq, can you take them at the same level?

You can.

for example, you can take dodge and mobility in the same level
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Post Post #2401 (isolation #724) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:47 pm

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he's saying he has a ton of reach so he will have more cleave targets
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Post Post #2403 (isolation #725) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:15 pm

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you can get his reach to 15 ft?

you are saying you can turn him Huge?
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #726) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:19 pm

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he's going to turn Large, then use a reach weapon to double his reach to 20ft, then use his class feature to get 5ft more
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Post Post #2407 (isolation #727) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:25 pm

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look at the back of the DMG for reach calculations
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Post Post #2409 (isolation #728) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:34 pm

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busted?

busted like it's awesome? or busted like he's breaking rules?
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Post Post #2412 (isolation #729) » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:42 pm

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I think so?

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Post Post #2418 (isolation #730) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:06 am

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DS, you need to be able to cast haste without a wand
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Post Post #2419 (isolation #731) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:13 am

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In post 2414, Brian Skies wrote:I'm locking in Necromancer.

Wizard or sorcerer?

If wizard, focused or no?

Link your char sheet if you are able.
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #732) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:16 am

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DS, if you really want to play swiftblade, just do Sorc 6 or Wiz 6.

Yeah, you lose BAB, but there's nothing you can do.
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Post Post #2424 (isolation #733) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:23 am

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You may have less than two weeks.
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Post Post #2427 (isolation #734) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:46 am

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That's probably a good decision.

You should at least narrow down what you're considering. Team composition is important and other players could use the info.
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Post Post #2429 (isolation #735) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:05 am

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ok

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Post Post #2430 (isolation #736) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:27 am

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so somehow, we ended up with 6 melees and Brian Skies

is this an April Fool's joke
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Post Post #2433 (isolation #737) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:12 am

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I think you should play what you want.

I suspect your team will be fine either way.
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #738) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:14 am

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So question is, would you enjoy playing necro or transmutation?
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Post Post #2440 (isolation #739) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:17 am

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Shifter
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Post Post #2442 (isolation #740) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:18 am

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they're are from monster manual 3
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Post Post #2450 (isolation #741) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:34 am

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It is a valid concern.

Banning illusion means you are losing INVISIBILITY.

That's a pretty high price.
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Post Post #2453 (isolation #742) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:39 am

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Thanks, Kcdaspot!
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Post Post #2455 (isolation #743) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:02 am

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Bravo.

You are not taking ray of enfeeblement?
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #744) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:12 am

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Both are fine.

Are you going wiz 5/master specialist X?
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Post Post #2465 (isolation #745) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:36 pm

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I think Hana is going energy gestalt sorcerer, Brian.
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #746) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:53 am

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Party is now:

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Brian: Necromancer
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #747) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:22 am

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re: crossbow

GIF can also use rapid reload, quick draw + bunch of crossbows, or spam unseen servants to reload his crossbow for free.


re: knowledge devotion

Another knowledge you might want to consider is dungeoneering, for abberations.
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #748) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:30 am

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DS, it's your call to figure out which stat to dump.

Aberrations are not as common as some of the other types.
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Post Post #2484 (isolation #749) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:39 am

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GIF, I'd give starting 20 Dex elf fighter starting crossbow sniper a good consider.

It's a very powerful build at lv 1, and you should do your best to hit dex 22 as soon as possible anyways.
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Post Post #2488 (isolation #750) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:19 am

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In post 2486, DiamondSentinel wrote:Oh, and I've never thought to ask until now, but do you allow retraining feats? I'd assume not, but if so, there is one that's useful for low level but gets substantially less useful after that.

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Post Post #2494 (isolation #751) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:03 pm

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While knowledge devotion feat is recommended in a number of duskblade handbooks out there, it's mostly a trap.

Highest damage duskblade build is the one that minimizes Int in favor of pumping Str.
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Post Post #2496 (isolation #752) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:11 pm

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You really can't figure out why a 18 str, 14 Int Duskblade would outdamage a 14 Str, 18 Int Duskblade?
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Post Post #2498 (isolation #753) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:19 pm

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What is there to explain?
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #754) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:22 pm

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yeah
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #755) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:38 pm

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No.
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #756) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:21 am

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On 17th I think.
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #757) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:31 am

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Don't worry about making it to every session.

I'll share xp so no one falls behind.
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Post Post #2527 (isolation #758) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:57 am

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Looks good.

I recommend doing something like what Who did to organize your spells on your char sheet.
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Post Post #2530 (isolation #759) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:45 am

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I mean for the spells remaining for the day/total spells per day
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Post Post #2533 (isolation #760) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:50 pm

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for a bundle of 20
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Post Post #2539 (isolation #761) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:56 pm

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ConMan, there is a variant half-elf in DMG that I allow that I forgot to mention.

They are nicknamed "half-human" elves, and they represent half-elves that were raised by elves, rather than by humans.

You might be interested, since they gain proficiency with the longbow.

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Post Post #2542 (isolation #762) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:41 am

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Proficiency does nothing except allowing you to use the weapon.

Clerics don't get proficiency with their deity's favored weapon, unless the cleric chooses the war domain. (in which case, the cleric receives not only the proficiency, but also Weapon Focus feat in that weapon)
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Post Post #2549 (isolation #763) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:07 pm

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obviously you need the other reqs too but sure
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Post Post #2552 (isolation #764) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:22 pm

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Post Post #2577 (isolation #765) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:53 am

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Post Post #2581 (isolation #766) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:41 pm

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Total party kill.

No session next week.
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Post Post #2582 (isolation #767) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:45 pm

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I would like to ask a long applause for LLD for agreeing to play Dr. Ether Liridian, the brilliant Lyric Thaumaturgist, in the campaign.

Thank you, LLD. I really enjoyed your roleplaying in the sessions. I am glad that I asked you to play.
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Post Post #2584 (isolation #768) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:02 pm

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Possible different directions, or, things that could have been!


Act 1:


All I have written down for Bord is that it's a mining/craft town run by dwarves, and that lots of merchants hire guards for their goods.

If you guys head down earlier into the dungeon, Arthur may not make the deal with the goblins and betray everyone. It depends on how strong of an impression you guys make.

Clearing out the monastery was definitely the correct choice. More xp is worth, especially because you guys have such a large party, and in desperate need of xp.


Act 2: (first part)

If one of the female PCs who got hit on by Toronto accept his offer of money for uhhh "companionship", then you end up going up to his room and having dinner there, while he shows off his jewelry collection. Izzy proceeds with the plan, however, and knocks on the door, killing Toronto instantly when he opens the door. When he notices that you are behind the door, he attempts to murder you as well.

Not stopping at the inn will not matter, since Marion is keeping a firm lookout for Avina down the road. Camping in the woods just gets you ambushed by bunch of Marion's bandits. Izzy kills Marion in the meantime, when all her minions are away. This simply means you guys miss out on lots of background information. (it's generally a good idea to try and interact as much as possible to take advantage of all the things DM prepared for you)

The other party actually all left the rooms silently in the middle of the night by climbing out the windows (waking up and dragging out NPC Avina too) and congregating in the wine cellar. They didn't trust Marion and her ex convicts much. This proved to pay off in the long run, as Grub was confused as of how they could have escaped during the night, and the commotion upstairs woke them up, giving them enough time to run outside and meet the ex convicts in a straight fight, rather than an ambush. (They locked Avina in the wine cellar for her protection) (they basically treated the entire campaign as a glorified escort mission, and went great lengths to assure that Avina didn't wonder off)


Act 2: (second part)


Obviously, the key to doing well in the city is to make a great impression with Halle right away, and most of your problems magically disappear. Having Marion alive really scores points with Halle, so fastest way is to just go visit the Lunagard House with Marion in tow. The dwarf secretary guy will not let you in. Teleporting/invisibility + levitate or fly into Halle's room works. Pretty much anything works really, because Marion is the trump card when dealing with Halle.

You can also use Marion as a bargaining chip and force Halle to do certain things. This doesn't make for as good of an ending.

Pinay the gnome is a coward, and intimidate is how you take control there. Helping his assistant Linny not get arrested doesn't score any points with Pinay. (Pinay will promptly fire her immediately after Gundabog leaves) Linny has a ton of info regarding the circus, and this is probably the most direct route that will lead you to James, the person Halle hired to keep the dinosaurs sedated. Otherwise, there's not really any way to find James until the Rainsberg Ball.

Izzy is most vulnerable at the Rainsberg Ball assassination run, since his location is pretty much locked in. Not killing him here means he shows up at the warehouses as the dinosaurs are waking up. Not killing him there means he will be with Tuhin at the last fight of Act 2.

Izzy had a storm elemental companion, Sariel, who generally spends her time far above the skies of Las Verisa. Flying 1000ft above the city will let you find her easily. (a patch of stormy clouds in a sunny day)

Alternative routes involves each of the police captains. Talking to Jin gets you involved in investigating the death of his superior, (ultimately leading to Izzy), while buttering up to Islow with lots of flattery and cash underneath the table can net you a real chance at capturing James early. (basically the weed man for the entire town) Impressing Gundabog will require a gift of powerful magic weapon, or an awesome display of force. (i.e. go pick fights with bunch of thugs at the seedy bar/dock warehouse and knock them all unconscious with nothing but your ale mug)

Failure to eliminate the dinosaurs before the invasion means that the PCs have to fight a number of megaraptors before engaging Tuhin, possibly expending a decent chunk of their resources. Not befriending Halle before the Tuhin fight means that Grey won't listen to the PCs and continue to fight alongside Tuhin to his death. Befriending Halle, and letting it slip to Izzy (or really anyone that reports back to Tuhin) that you guys are working with Halle against Tuhin means Tuhin kills Grey and uses his body parts for a flesh golem, which you get to face at the final fight, instead of wand wielding Grey.


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It's actually possible to rescue Santa, if you catch on that there's something fishy about his deck hand. Briefly talking to Santa about the deck hand reveals that Santa's usual helper disappeared few days ago, and that the deck hand is stowing away some crates that are not suppose to be there. (the crates are full of knives which will be later be used by Evans the killer)

Talking to Serria pretty much gets you nowhere. She holds most of the cards (as some of you rightly deduced), but she is brainwashed and working alongside the witches. She discreetly leaves the mansion every night to go convene with her coven at the cove. Tracking her is a high-risk move that could be very rewarding. Attacking the cove while Serria is NOT there is probably the easiest way to defeat the witches, remove Serria's brainwashing, and stop the lobster demon ritual. Realizing early the importance of Serria-Michelle relationship is also good. The witches were told by Serria not to kill Michelle or her family, and witches were looking for ways to drive Michelle away from Serria.

Damian mansion exploration is basically only for crazy people and should not be attempted trivially, as you can get easily TPK'd there in the anti-tp zone. The reaper dolls are all armed with magic, and Millicent's emotionless body shows no mercy to trespassers. She is an illusionist 7/Rog 1/Unseen Seer 1 with a lot of potential for silent assassinations as the PCs wonder around the mansion.

Reading books about the history of Lunagards in the family library will get you enough information to figure everything out. Alternatively, talking to Rook/Bishop and earning their trust gets you all the info you need. (since they are Millicent's emotions).

The "best" ending involves finding the secret entrance down to Lunagard Keep basement behind Victor's statue at the end of East wing, going down and finding the spell circle and Luna's sleeping ghost. At this point, Rook attacks, intending to stop trespassers from messing with Luna's ward. Defeating Rook isn't too hard, and it forces Bishop to reveal herself as Millicent and gamble that you guys are trustworthy. Beating the witches prior to doing this means it's easier to convince her that you guys are trustworthy. Then, you need to find the music Damian wrote for Luna's wedding. It's in the old piano Ether is playing all the time in the guesthouse. Playing this song wakes up Luna's spirit, and she tells you that Victor is stuck on the other side, and she wants you guys to travel and rescue him. You guys can then travel to Abyss and find Damian, mind controlled and inhabited by demons. It's a rough fight, but defeating him without killing him and returning him to the material plane with his sword allows him to lock down the rift, winning the campaign.

In the first day there where the servants run out of meat for dinner, you can actually offer to hunt some and go into the woods. You end up fighting a dire bear, but bringing back meat earns you points with Julia.

I mentioned this, but the original plot line can involve Ether and William possibly falling in love with each other. If they end up getting married, then Ether becomes a valid sacrifice for the witches' ritual. (she is 1/8th elf)
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Post Post #2585 (isolation #769) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:47 pm

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Hey guys, please post links your char sheets again please.

And don't forget to find an image to represent your character.
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Post Post #2587 (isolation #770) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:02 am

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Time to start anew.

We will be starting a new campaign, starting back from lv 1.

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Post Post #2589 (isolation #771) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:04 pm

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"...I remember how we started out the campaign. We lined up outside the bar and headed out in a wagon of some sorts. The usual. Anyways, the DM tried to drive that shit across the roll20 board and failed spectacularly to navigate the first turn of the road. He swore and deleted the wagon. We had to walk the rest of the way..."
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Post Post #2591 (isolation #772) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:31 pm

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I posted it because it popped into my mind while cleaning up the first post of thread.

Party comp is now:

Necromancer
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Post Post #2596 (isolation #773) » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:31 pm

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In post 2526, DiamondSentinel wrote:I present to you Ciel Varynx the Duskblade, and his hero's sword Aetherius!

In post 2556, ConManMick wrote:Ok I still need to pick a level 1 feat, haven't finished filling in my spells and also I probably need to play with my ability scores some more, but for now...

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Post Post #2605 (isolation #774) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:29 am

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In post 2602, Who wrote:FG, a question about artificer:
Step 1: Wand of phantasmal killer (21k to buy, so 10.5k to make)
Step 2: Heighten to L9 (6 charges total, including the casting)
Step 3: Wand mastery+GSF(Illusion)+Gnome = 10+9+2+2+1+int (Probably 7)=DC 31
Step 4: Dead boss
Step 5: Get the other people to take out the mooks and/or use your heavy machine gun.

I'm pretty sure you can't use Heighten with metamagic spell trigger, and even if you could, wands are capped to 4th level spells max anyways.

You have to use the minimum DCs for wands. You cannot use spell focuses and racial bonuses to DC.

Yes, your DC is going to be pathetic. That's why you use no save spells like orb of force.
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Post Post #2607 (isolation #775) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:56 pm

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Post Post #2608 (isolation #776) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:04 pm

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One of my RL friends will be coming to play with us for the first session, since we don't have DS or Lilith next Sunday.

I don't know if he will be joining in the future. There are a lot of players already.

Just think of it as a test run, and make a good impression.

I don't know what class he is playing, and you should not take his class into account for the party composition.
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #777) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:07 pm

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Spring attack yes, Bounding Assasult no.

I'll tell him to not come then.
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Post Post #2613 (isolation #778) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:15 pm

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Seline OK cool

DS only reason I was considering him playing with us was because I thought the player number would be lower
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Post Post #2621 (isolation #779) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:56 pm

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Lilith, feel free to play something non-tanky, since Who is already playing an off tank.
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Post Post #2623 (isolation #780) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:26 pm

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Players, I noticed that the party size was getting pretty big, and was wondering if you guys would rather split the party into two, and alternate between weeks.

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Post Post #2625 (isolation #781) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:35 pm

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Presumably, people can change classes.

The composition of party will be dictated mostly by when people are available to play.
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Post Post #2626 (isolation #782) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:37 pm

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Also, I would be ok with people swapping parties midway. (if for example, they can't make a certain week)
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Post Post #2631 (isolation #783) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:06 pm

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I think we shouldn't split unless everyone agrees.

We will not be splitting.
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Post Post #2634 (isolation #784) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:21 am

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Campaign link in the thread OP has been updated. You may begin setting up macros.

Please lock in your character, and link me your char sheet and a picture you want to use for your character.
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Post Post #2642 (isolation #785) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:48 pm

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In post 2638, GuyInFreezer wrote:Unless some miracle happens I won't be able to make the first session due to some work schedule fuck up.

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Post Post #2647 (isolation #786) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:57 am

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Brian, ConMan, lilith, Hana - Please finish your characters and link me your char sheet, image, etc.

We are scheduled play this Sunday at the usual time slot. GIF will most likely be not attending.
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Post Post #2649 (isolation #787) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:06 am

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That's fine. Thanks for letting me know. lilith.
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Post Post #2660 (isolation #788) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:03 pm

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I don't know if he will continue to play after Sunday.

You shouldn't rely on him to fill a gap in your party composition.
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #789) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:07 pm

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Brian, I added your character to the campaign.
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #790) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:35 am

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Post Post #2671 (isolation #791) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:38 am

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Post Post #2678 (isolation #792) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:15 pm

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Hello, have you played D&D 3.5 before?
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Post Post #2680 (isolation #793) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:31 pm

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Cool. The relevant information is in the first post.

The players and I hang out in the Hobo room of the mafiascum site chat.

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Post Post #2683 (isolation #794) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:19 am

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Thanks for letting me know, ConMan.

Do you guys know any scummers who is okay with me using their names for NPCs?

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Post Post #2684 (isolation #795) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:27 am

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Bulge, when able, please post link to your char sheet, and send me an image to represent your character with on the board.
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Post Post #2685 (isolation #796) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:00 am

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Post Post #2686 (isolation #797) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:59 pm

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Post Post #2689 (isolation #798) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:19 pm

Post by FakeGod »

Spoiler: Here is your carry
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100% serious
My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
I have Brandi's autograph! I bet you're jealous.

Send me a PM if you want to replace in!
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Post Post #2691 (isolation #799) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:34 pm

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The man depicted in my last post can solo Rislyn.
My favorite site mod is Zor Tester.
I have Brandi's autograph! I bet you're jealous.

Send me a PM if you want to replace in!

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