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of course ranked games are better than normal games. the quality of games is much better, but i prefer to be detached from my games. my ranked progress matters less than my ability to 'warm up' my mechanics. i easily lose 'warmth' due to work/commitments and it causes me to play a full tier below where i belong. it's really annoying to get crushed by golds when the games should 'matter'. to me the quantity of games i can play matters more than the quality, and if i'm not having fun i won't play at all.-
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i think lichbane/thunderlord sona gives a lot of damage over a midgame teamfight, but if you're playing it like syndra that's wrong. you still need to glue to your adc (or mid if they're trash) and provide your healshields. beyond that redemption is super strong, especially having the heal shielding multipliers going through windspeakers. i don't think there's any middle ground where you want to build straight AP.-
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Anyone else here play top lane? How do you decide when you end your laning phase? I'm having trouble playing around low elo and I end laning phase 10-12min in. 25-75 I smash the enemy team, the rest of the time I end up trading back to parity, but it comes at a cost at letting my lane counterpart to ignore map and get back into the game. I feel like I take a complete 90° and kill my lane momentum. Maybe I'm too afraid to lose, but these are things I would used to do when I didn't suck at the game, so I'm going to be a typical solo queue player and blame my team for being unable to do anything with the small but real advantages I give them.
I don't really have the mental stamina or the free time to grind 100 games to knock sense into me. If you have a top lane hack, I'd like to know.
Currently I'm thinking Renekton is the best pick for me right now. Super good itemization right now, top lane carries are common in solo queue and he smashes them. Nobody counterpicks with Shen so you can blind pick and expect a winning lane. Only champion I've won with in ranked at least-
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report in postgame, hope for the best.
it is always, always optimal to dodge. trying to punish people would be enough deterrence, but since your average league player is selfish there won't ever be enough people to make that possible. i would dodge in promotions series as the single case is much better than the worst and likely case of losing the game.-
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yes, but you don't lose MMR for dodging. that's the number that will stop you from instantly getting demoted from some bullshit loss streak.In post 2783, Randomnamechange wrote:
Dont you get a loss in your series for dodging?In post 2781, Lycanfire wrote:report in postgame, hope for the best.
it is always, always optimal to dodge. trying to punish people would be enough deterrence, but since your average league player is selfish there won't ever be enough people to make that possible. i would dodge in promotions series as the single case is much better than the worst and likely case of losing the game.-
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fully embracing the fnatic fighting spirit by spamming supports like camille and j4. winrate is pretty abysmal, but it's improving as i charge needlessly to my death less. i only ever enjoy league if i can playmake and shotcall since my mechanics have always been shit. being on a near suicide mission is effective in taking my team hostage which is preferable to being ignored if i play janna, the champion i had the highest winrate on before i became shit at video games.
i recommend it! if you need something closer to meta, malzahar still performs well despite the nerfs.-
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duskblade is undeniably gold efficient (7000G empowered auto at level 9 for 300g cost of the passive?) but there's also the 'know your role' consideration of itemization. if you get botrk instead, self peel and land ten autos on the enemy tank i would consider that to be a better deal than hitting 700 damage auto on the enemy midlaner, probably placing you out of position to do if the situation was even available. on lethality jhin it's a fine item-he's a spellcaster and doesn't mind having one of his limited first rotation autos being empowered. that's an item that makes sense for him, and he has self peel anyway.-
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The website says it does.
The new honor system is pretty good. Makes people think about the game instead of hit play again. I think meta analysis is good for the game. Both for personal results and for how players perceive teammates, and how the first person isn't the only part of the 'team' (which many League players seem to think.)
It is really easy to get honor rewards though. Just by making plays I get 'shotcaller' x2/3 or winning lane with my adc a x1 gg. I don't think I've legitimately shotcalled a game in years.-
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Nami is REALLY REALLY hard to win with in ranked. Back in S4 I had 70-80% winrate on Janna, Braum, Leona, Morgana, Zyra and a few other supports but I think(??) 47% Nami winrate with a 6 KDA. Something really low like that.
Outside of laning you have very little impact on the game with Nami. I can still remember some great Bubbles I've had, but that's reallyall you have.
Morgana on the other hand is a great support to play. She's very rewarding when you learn how to aim her Q... You probably won't for awhile in bronze though. Nobody bothers to dodge in low elo, so just aim straight. In gold or higher you'll need some movement prediction.-
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Movement prediction isn't just flash prediction. It's predicting how someone will move and not necessarily with the intent to dodge. There's typical prediction which I can't put into words - it's a learned skill. It's how peopleusuallymove. When they go up to CS. When they weave an auto. When they move to trade. How they establish their zone of presence and where they put it. Where they are comfortable being in the lane. This is your basic skill which is as natural as your opponent's skill. The difference is that you need to be conscious of it in order to improve it.
Then there is dodge prediction. The enemy knows you want to hit them, and they move with the idea of being ready to dodge. These are jerky-movements. The best example is when someone is in transit between two points and your skillshot is being sent to them. They will jerk to the side away from it, and it's your job to predict that they will do that and aim it slightly off. Not enough to make it a miss, but to hit the point between A and B where they will make the jerk movement. Ideally your shot is both subtle and accurate enough to hit through all three points (start, middle, end). This can happen any time, but I'm trying to establish a scenario where the champion is already in movement.
Lastly there is singular prediction. It's unique to your opponent. They will move in their own ways independent from other people, and while they share similarities they have their own pattern. They might always move back, and never take a trading stance after taking a CS. This is unique to their playstyle. Some players might favor a certain warding pattern and only hold the same positions in a lane as a result. This is like a player's DNA.-
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In post 3135, Andrius wrote:Level Four Honor has cool(er) flair but otherwise no difference in key drops.
Still have more chests than keys at this point. Haven't seen an Honor Capsule yet.
back when keys were per win i was still going through a league grind and had 20 more chests than keys
peg the payout to a random amount of wins (9-50) for a fragment. change the perimeters each week so people don't get suspicious while still limiting payout.
something i noticed is that the fewer games overall you played, the more keys you would get per win. so if you were profiled as a lower activity player payout would begin sooner. call me conspiracy minded but there were two levers in place to limit payout.
as for the new system i have no idea how it works now. i think you get more key fragments overall, regardless of how often you play or how much you win. i think the key drops are more normalized in payout. maybe riot realized happy people buy more-i find when i'm stressed out, i hoard money. when i'm happy i don't bother looking at the price of what i'm buying or bother looking at the receipt. if market researchers are finding that out, then it's a welcome change. i don't want to feel stressed out all the time.-
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this is out of date but i feel like it has more to do with overall champion power than how they plug into the meta
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... g&sle=true
related: has anyone managed to fix the one key lee sin ward hop hotkey in the config file? it broke for me last year and i've gone through a painstaking process to fix it and have been unable to. at least there's practice mode now if i ever wanted to stop being bad at lee but losing that alone severely hit my performance with him.
also i just logged in and received what seems like an honor summoner icon (has the legacy 4 honor icons). still only at honor 4 at the moment.-
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the problem with doing this is that you get all the tryhards doing the exact same thing. makes for unenjoyable games.In post 3201, RayFrost wrote:Does that mean I should stop my current "it's nearing end of season, let's start climbing for real" aim toward diamond-
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Reached level 5 honor on live.
I finally got into PBE. Thanks Andy. I applied years ago and I stopped checking my gaming e-mail for awhile and realized a few months ago that they reached out not too long after my application. woops.
ARAM on PBE is great. Every champion is in the free rotation. No bullshit ARAM accounts. downside: you can't estimate your ARAM mmr by how many ARAM accounts you get matched with.-
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Pyke is as underwhelming as anyone would think. I only messed around him in a custom game, and thematically he's great, but his problems are obvious.
-Q is clunky on tap. Makes old rengar q look like butter.
-He's dead on arrival if his gap closer doesn't see him through. His stealth should grant him more movement speed.
-Scaling sucks, base damage on e also sucks.
I mean, his ult is amazing. The damage at level 11 is enormous. It's a gapcloser that also ignores shields(??? though it doesn't say so in game). Super solid ult.
The fear is that he would be a roaming Thresh, but I think he'll be laughed at in lane. Just last night I was juking Blitz q as Nami all game and BMing the poor soul for it. Q is not only predictable, but projected.
Q should be always tap, and if it pierces a champion, send a jet of water through them smacking any champions behind them in a line for reduced damage. Up the stun on e.
or: make him stay stealthed while winding up Q. it's the only hope he has of ever landing it.
or: give him a zoe trickshot.
His clunk is what will work against him. I don't think he'll even work in a kill lane as is.
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I quit. Life is good. Game is literal ass. Everyone that plays is underage and refuses to listen to their team.
I did a self-evaluation and realized I began dropping off my peak in 2015 because by 2016, everyone realized talking to their team leads to being toxic and therefore banned, and the passive-aggressive meta started. League players have fragile egos and are no longer capable of winning games outside of laning phase. If given the opportunity, they would play a laning phase only game so they could say they did well, or finally have a game they "won" and be satisfied by the game. This behavior makes it harder to keep a team together in the midgame.
Back in 2011-2015, if someone on the team was shotcalling, regardless of what spats people were having with their team,they listened. A shotcaller was accepted as a team role and the team that had one would win the game. Now it's acceptable to say "I need farm", not group to the point of losing the game, which is probably intentional these days (if you do anything else, you get banned), because if you lose lane, you totally need to complete an item, since even if you outmacro the enemy team, there's no way you can win a 5v4 or whatever the fuck goes on in some peoples brains.
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The last thing I found enjoyable in League was playing Zyra, but she's legitimately not viable with Brand being a god tier support. The options are banning it or playing Soraka or Karma every game, maybe Morg, and I like Morg, but I half pick Morg to win lane, going for pick potential never ends well. Brand is a great ban, but then you miss out on Aatrox and Wukong, or at least you did, they were supposed to have been nerfed in a recent patch.In post 3831, Draynth wrote:I mean I don't necessarily disagree, but the way you phrased literally all of the above leads me to believe everyone else isn't the sole reason you're not enjoying the game anymore
In my last games I was basically suiciding and 1v1ing everybody with Zyra because that's what the meta is. Regular League is basically URF. An arcade game. 30 minutes of your life per game is an arcade game. Not worth it.
Plainly not true. Shotcaller was a thing, and people would ask for someone to make calls if nobody was making any.In post 3832, PJ. wrote:Hate to break it to you, but "shot caller" has never been a role or a thing in solo q unless you were/are the super fed guy. No one listens to the 0/3 "macro genius"-
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you act like i was running it down mid instead of stacking 8 seeds with a pink ward in a bush with zyra every two minutesIn post 3859, Randomnamechange wrote:In post 3857, Lycanfire wrote:Finally got my data. Apparently I'm more toxic than everyone I've been matched with in the past two months / 330 games put together.
Except, you know, I'm not.
There's nothing interesting in the data and isn't worth waiting a month for.
thinking_emojiIn post 3815, Lycanfire wrote:If you int like it's your job, the honor system showers you in keys and honor capsules even if you're getting no honors compared to 1-2 honor a game.
Just thought I'd share my observation based on my last week.
my point was that the honor system gives you stuff if it detects you've had "rough games" so you don't quit
or maybe i really did commit hate speech twice as much as i reported other people for it-
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Look dude I peaked P1 with support, jungle, and top simultaneously while role switching to mid so I wouldn't be such a mechanical potato in 2014. I did the same in 2015 but with ADC before I experienced burn out.In post 3862, PJ. wrote:I had you pegged as a hyper bad, hyper toxic low elo support, so riot is reaffirming my opinions of you, therefore the stats panel must be great
Please tell me more about how you went from a "gold-lifer" to plat in 6000 games.
Somehow you're managing to take offense to protect whatever fragile ego you have because you think I mean I reached this level with "bad" or "bronze" or "silver" or "gold" or (whatever elo you are) mechanics. My mechanics were bad because they weren't getting better. That's all there is to it.-
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People max out heal then do something stupid like put points in E so they can proceed to do nothing besides ult with a minimum 15s bubble. It shouldn't take any longer than level 10 to max bubble. Stats say Nami players across the board tank their winrate midgame, and it only gets worse the later it goes, probably because they never bubble and therefore can't land them lategame either.-
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W into E was something I used to do. It got me a nice KDA. I would win lane. I would never play Nami unless my ADC was Lucian for the double E hits / to totally shit on the enemy team.
If all you have is an ult and some dubious buffs for your team, you're really lacking in agency to impact the game. Sure you can throw down crucible or something, but you could do that as any other hero. I'd find myself making really poor ults and that'd be it for the fight.
I've noticed a much better midgame with a decreased Q CD. Your laning should be strong enough with 2-3 points into heal. E doesn't really do anything in the grand scheme, unless your ADC is some god that can't be touched to begin with. Yeah, you could just be good at landing the one bubble you get in a fight, but not everyone is on the level SSB Heart was, and if you get two you can really ruin somebodies' day.
I feel the same way about Braum. There's not much for you to do on your own: either your ADC is a god and you never leave them, or they aren't and you suddenly have to decide whether you're better somewhere else. Falling behind on Braum feels like shit. Again, this is a hero I would only play with Lucian, to doubleshot Braum's stun passive.-
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go into a bot game with a top tier jungler like xin zhao. farm the jungle. farm lanes. whenever you can be arsed, go collect your free kills
when you get the score screen realize you can do the exact same thing in your ranked games. your teammates aren't collecting those resources anyway.
i wouldn't bother with splitpushing to climb. it has the general idea right (gold is good) but you're severely limiting your ability to farm the enemy team. pick a hero that can one shot people once you start getting resources. these are your annies, akalis. junglers would be your lee sins, your rengos, your gragases.
tierlists are really silly, but they serve as a good guide for the value you'll get out of learning a certain hero. for instance, if you're in bronze i wouldn't tell you to play lee sin or graves, i'd tell you to play xin and j4.
LS' tierlists used to not be shit but you get the general idea: https://i.imgur.com/0tazN4Z.jpg
if you're really insistent on splitting i can reinstall for the second time in a month. i've got a level 29 meme smurf i only used to dick around with lee sin/vi on, so we could do norms or ranked if you want to shit fury on people.-
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Just got back into playing for real and not just ARAM
Impact worlds meta has had on me:
My junglers are contesting everything which is leading me to roam a lot
As a result, my support item completes much later than usual
I always had >>> 1WPM, now I think I'm just under 1WPM
Buying a lot of pinks, 10+++ a game. I used to be pretty stingy with them, like "this pink has been behind their red for 15 minutes and has offered great information, I'm not going to re-place it just to clear a ward!" or, "well MY ward is still up and nobody else is buying pinks. i'll just tell someone else to do it". nope. buy the pink. it's so oppressive to have 2-3 and just sweep the enemy jungle. I can feel the enemy dying inside
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Here's the thing. You said "no one listens to the 0/3 "macro genius". Here i am tracking down a d5 jungler from lv1 and mercilessly ganking him and making everything he does pointless as support Taric.
Are three of his teammates gold? Yes, no one is arguing that. As somebody that studies crows, I am telling you, no one calls the P5 Teemo a crow. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "shot caller has never been a role or a thing in solo q" you're referring to the queue where three of my unranked teammates listened to my calls and executed my plan.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a hyperbad toxic support or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
go to Deploy\League of Legends.exe, make a shortcut of the .exe then drop the .rofl file onto it.
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i used to love doing lv1s like this back when thunderlord was a thing
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in my experience end of season is filled with elo boosters and ragers
runes are usually something like:
Keystone - Precision
Press the Attack (my name is Lucian and I attack twice) - Fleetwork (sustain, MS) - Lethal Tempo (wearing carry pants)
Overheal - Triumph. The choice is mostly based on whether you're a bork user or stormrazor user. pros apparently use whatever they chose last game, because there's no logic or sense based on their choice.
Alacrity. The base bonus without takedowns is undeniably good. Banking on a rune for tenacity is a bad idea unless you're jungling and can expect a good KP.
Coup de Grace>Cut down. The logic here is that cut down sucks in lane, and ending a kill is better than somebody getting blasted with a final rotation of skills before the kill goes down. Cut down with stormrazor is probably the best this rune will ever be due to the frontloaded damage of the item. Last Stand is a Tryndamere rune. I've used it in ARAM as Kindred before at least? Nobody uses it in real games though
secondary (anything goes, almost)
Inspiration is good for the raw stats, but with the stopwatch nerf it isn't worth it for ADC anymore.
Domination is probably underrated, but it's hard to justify it over other trees. Off the top of my head Cheap Shot + Ravenous Hunter on Ashe should be really good, which I base solely on the insane cheap shot numbers I get as Zyra. Ghost poro can protect from ganks, which is good if you're the only naturally pushing lane. Ravenous hunter is pretty decent, 8+40=48MS. Downside especially for Ashe: her base HP sucks compared to other ADs. I laned with an Ashe the other day against a Jhin, and the power creep was real.
Resolve is the second most used by top players. Bone plating+Chrysalis for the level 1 and free stats later on, or Bone plating + Second wind if your shit is going to be pushed in all game. This is really just a 1v9 secondary
Sorcery. Most used by just about everyone. Pros usually go Absolute Focus / Gathering storm, everybody that isn't a pro probably benefits more from Celerity over Absolute Focus. There's a small but real lv1 disadvantage if you go celerity, though. Varus goes manaflow band with a q max. I usually roleplay as an ADC instead of a caster and use the more reliable E max, but hey, pros go manaflow regardless of what they max, so it must be good. 3 different KR mids recently got autofilled to bot and all of them went comet with a Q max, so you don't need to right click as Varus to win in KR challenger.-
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I can't seem to figure out how to configure my headset to use my headphones for output while using the headset for input without also using my headset for output. I'd prefer not to hear the game in worse quality than a 90s phone call, so let me know if voice is a deal breaker.
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I'm either playing it or not playing it. I care about winning but I won't expect to.
Can we get 5 by tomorrow so we can assign roles? If I'm outside of bot lane, I need to spam a few games to get the rust off. We get subs though, so we can have more than 5 and sit people out if they have rl or need a break.
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best part of playing zyra is that you can do this and solo carry if the person playing bot is an asshole
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Just had a throwback ARAM game with Kayle using the S3 liandry build.
I'm happy about the Kayle rework, but the Morg one is definitely going to fuck with me. I'm betting that they try to make her a more useful waveclear mid and will completely miss that the reason why she is not played mid is not because she is not useful, it is because she can never do a crossmap play or roam faster. Mid Morg does and will have to take TP. Only way around this would be to give her some tower smashing passive, which you could make the case that she becomes a playmaking version of Ziggs.
Some gimmick like "spreading torment" by being LoL version of Zerg would be cool, but would never work unless Riot wants to go to the trouble of making Taliyah's worked ground come up in some neon colour on it. That would give her a reason not to leave lane if she can instead make a super buff area for herself later in the game.
Realistically her Q is going to be capped at 2 seconds and will have her E broken by removing immunity in exchange for some sidegrade W, new passive and VU. Stomach acid is acting up at that thought of what they're going to do.
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Few things probably make or break her like whether Q+Auto triggers electrocute and how exactly W works. From what I'm reading it seems like you should get the bonus movespeed on your third attack, not from stacking onto an enemy. That's about the only way she'll be making her low range Q work, but it telegraphs the play.
I think she'll be a skirmisher/wave clear mid. Q is on a low CD but with a high mana cost. A support will be more happy with someone like Karma which has basically the same Q early in the game and meaningful 0CS utility. She could work to support Swain, but Swain is the chad of bot lane and anybody works with Swain.-
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