The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

[davesaz]

I have built an instance that matches the google sheet as of now... haven't launched it yet or compared to my personal 1.12 to see if anything important is missing.

Things I noticed while searching for mods:
Is redstone arsenal an intended omission or an oversight?
Immersive petroleum y/n?
Ranged pumps is definitely superior to other pumps...

Edit: it launched, yay! I'm using all defaults rn, to get the config directory populated.
I'm not trying to do double work, might be best if you popped on irc?

Extra cells is asking to use in-game wiki mod. Y/n?

[Maestro]

I would vote all 3 of those should go in. I really want to experiment more with IPetrol...

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Things I noticed while searching for mods:
Is redstone arsenal an intended omission or an oversight?
Immersive petroleum y/n?
Ranged pumps is definitely superior to other pumps...

Ok. Will add.

Edit: it launched, yay! I'm using all defaults rn, to get the config directory populated.
I'm not trying to do double work, might be best if you popped on irc?

Extra cells is asking to use in-game wiki mod. Y/n?

Nah.

Gonna need to take out Thaumcraft for the time being though. It's definitely not ready.

[Maestro]

Explain?

[Impossibear]

Explain?

which part

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Question: why redstone arsenal? we have rf tools and thermal innovation, plus a crapton of other mods that add rf-power tools

[davesaz]

heh, alt slips in the minecraft thread

I only mentioned redstone arsenal because it popped up when I searched cofh. Dunno if there is overlap etc.

@Maestro, removing thaum dropped my SSP instance's memory, I'm guessing by a gig of working set. Might be an exaggeration because I did not check the "before" number, but this is compared to another instance which does have it. I can run experiments...

[EspeciallyTheLies]

removing thaum dropped my SSP instance's memory

Same here. Huge difference in fps.

[Klazam]

SSP and server is rather different in terms of fps and memory usage

[EspeciallyTheLies]

added immersive petroleum and ranged pumps, dave

SSP and server is rather different in terms of fps and memory usage

yeah but that is still going to eat memory on server. and besides its not even finished yet.

[Klazam]

"Not finished" is valid

"SSP memory usage" i dont think is a issue

thaum shouldnt be in yet, anyway

[davesaz]

Recommended todo's

Cut back dramatically on granite/andesite/diorite/marble not astral sorcery/limestone/whatever other non-stone there is. Too much of that stuff just clutters things up. Though I'm willing to be voted down on this. Don't nerf underground gravel and clay as much though, that stuff is needed in small quantities.
Some of the ores don't show up in the /oredistribution report. But it's helpful to find the dups. Probably have to do the quarry all the stone/other mundane stuff and see what's left method.
Butterflies were an issue a few servers back. During testing, we should do something that causes lots of them to find out if it's still an issue.
Another prior server issue was lag that we never were sure if it was archimedes or something else. Test the flying ships things (davinci?) to see if it's an issue.

Op people during testing and deop later? Or try a week of mostly survival to see what happens? I'm ok either way, can do some of the op-worthy stuff myself...

Let me know if you want me to go strictly as-is with what is uploaded, or comb through configs (if I have time). Don't want to duplicate work / step on toes but OTOH we may notice different things...

When Akliz restarted things most recently they auto started horizons which is the N-1 pack. I'll turn that one off, make the custom pack another server, and use the 4gb that's in use by horizons currently. Leaving revelation up for the people who are still playing it (myself included though I've been doing this the past couple days...)

[Walkor]

On non-AS marble, the chisel from Chisel can turn its version of marble into AS marble and vice versa, as well as switch between the AS marble types. Also, while I definitely agree with the sentiment that those stones clutter inventories, it gets annoying when you finally do want to build with them and can't find a cluster.

[Maestro]

On non-AS marble, the chisel from Chisel can turn its version of marble into AS marble and vice versa, as well as switch between the AS marble types. Also, while I definitely agree with the sentiment that those stones clutter inventories, it gets annoying when you finally do want to build with them and can't find a cluster.

This. Chisel stones should be reduced, probably, but not eliminated. Variety is not inherently bad, and the Vanilla -ite Stone variants all share the same oredict entry with the regular Stone block, so it's not like they get in the way of spawning ores. I, for one, don't want my mining underground to feel like "Vanilla + a bunch of random ores". It should feel like modded; there's new stuff up top, why not below? If you all get to have Pam's without any questions raised about all the seeds and gourds and shit I get in my inventory when trying to cut grass, leave the underground alone for those of us who like some variety in our builds, thank-you-very-much.

Also, are you adding Rustic? I would very much like to see that in the pack, but it's relevant because it adds something called "Slate" that's basically another naturally-spawning black-colored block a la Chisel Basalt, etc. - that can also get lowered/disabled for all I care.

[Psyche]

guys im nervous
getting all the modded stuff seems hard

[Psyche]

ill push through using my indomitable craving for human companionship

[Impossibear]

pams no longer drops from grass m

as far as stones and stuff, i generally restrict dirt/gravel below y-32. quark marble is the only one that's getting fully disabled so far. but once we got everything on server i can do a profile

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Just FYI ARch:

Akliz Support
11:52 pm (2 days ago)
to me

[PLANNED MAINTENANCE] Server Machine Move May 22 00:01 to May 23 23:59 EST

This maintenance event replaces the one that was scheduled for May 7, which was postponed.

Start: May 22 00:01 EST
End: May 23 23:59 EST
Type of work: Server machine move
Impact of work: Your server will be unavailable for a few hours or less during the maintenance window.

We'll be moving your server machine to a new suite that can support our expansion. During the move, we'll inform your players by chat (Minecraft only) that we'll shutdown your server for a few hours or less. Your files, IP address, etc. will remain the same after the move.

Please reply to this message if you have any questions or concerns or experience issues after the move. Thank you for understanding!

Note: We're only sending this email to you, the primary account holder. You may wish to forward this message to any admins who you may have added to Command Center.

[Oso]

guys im nervous
getting all the modded stuff seems hard

There is a learning curve for sure but not as bad as it looks to be. Just pretend it is vanilla and initially play vanilla and then pick a mod (Tinker's is a good one) and start building from there.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Uploading files now.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Also, are you adding Rustic?

I added it to the suggestions tab. It's not in the list currently but I'm sure there will be changes over the next couple weeks. I need to look at some of them a bit further, and also want input from others. There are mods that I left out because they're things I would leave out of an SSP pack, but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy them. Like waystones, RLD, etc.

[davesaz]

Oh, when you said "yeah" earlier I put rustic into mine under the assumption you were ok with everything in my post.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Here's a download link for the current beta files - client only:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aoXVee ... sp=sharing

[EspeciallyTheLies]

FORGE .2675 or higher. If anyone needs help setting this up, ask here or check IRC. I'll be in there all day as long as the stupid thing doesn't keep kicking me like it was yesterday.

[Maestro]

I’ll be testing this tonight.