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[DeathNote]

Have you heard? Wizards is trying to slow down Standard and make it more of a sorcery based format

I'm just telling you what you can do with the expertise that seems really good.

[Thestatusquo]

On turn 5 I can also hold up counter magic and removal spells and then untap and win the game...

[DeathNote]

That isn't what I was arguing. I was just saying wizards is clearly trying to slow the format down.

[InflatablePie]

@Shea: 1x Crackdown Construct to combo with your 4x Wandering Fumarole? Could be another good wincon (especially if you also have a Saheeli Rai out)

[Natirasha]

I like the list, Shea. It's close to what I came up with when building Jeskai Saheeli/Cat, although I've been trending towards UB Tezzeret because Herald of Anguish is stupid good.

Also yeah no I'd place good money on cat being banned in two months. Even the hard counters like Dampening Pulse and Authority of the Consuls lose to the fact they can play maindeck Nahiri, Shock is good but marginal and the Saheeli player get to play counterspells. Fatal Push doesn't even factor into it because there's close to zero revolt enablers worth playing. Literally just Cat and Evolving Wilds, I think?

I'd be more worried about Walking Ballista keeping it down than either of those.

[DeathNote]

Can you cast this card if you have no valid artifacts to destroy?

[InflatablePie]

You can cast that for R since you can have X = 0 (unless a card gets errata'd like Marath). Obviously it would only build Storm count, though.

Gatherer:
* The value of X is limited by the number of artifacts that you can target. You can’t target the same artifact more than once.
* You can target an artifact with indestructible. It won’t be destroyed, and you’ll still create X Gremlin tokens.
* If an artifact becomes an illegal target for Release the Gremlins, it won’t change the number of tokens created. However, if every target artifact becomes an illegal target, Release the Gremlins is countered and no tokens are created.

[DeathNote]

There we go then! Just had it come up and I wasn't sure.

[Sudo_Nym]

As a general rule, you can't cast a spell that targets unless you have the necessary number of legal targets. The only difference between this spell and others is that it has a variable number of targets, but you still need X targets to cast it for any given X.

[McMenno]

cat? might see once polukranos rotates

[Thestatusquo]

I like the list, Shea. It's close to what I came up with when building Jeskai Saheeli/Cat, although I've been trending towards UB Tezzeret because Herald of Anguish is stupid good.

Also yeah no I'd place good money on cat being banned in two months. Even the hard counters like Dampening Pulse and Authority of the Consuls lose to the fact they can play maindeck Nahiri, Shock is good but marginal and the Saheeli player get to play counterspells. Fatal Push doesn't even factor into it because there's close to zero revolt enablers worth playing. Literally just Cat and Evolving Wilds, I think?

I'd be more worried about Walking Ballista keeping it down than either of those.

Still tweaking the manabase, mostly. The strength of it to me in testing is that you don't need combo to win, but sometimes you can just hit it for the "oops I was 0% to win and then I won" factor. Otherwise it just plays like a pretty normal control deck. I have won most of my games with gearhulk. That card is just stupid.

To that point, pie, I don't think it needs another win, and crackdown construct feels reeeeeeaally clunky and doesn't win in many situations where the saheeli combo does not win. As you can see, I'm already not at the full 8 combo pieces, because I don't want to draw cards that don't interact that much.

re: banned, a couple of weeks ago I would have said no way, because standard bans are so rare, but I think the most overlooked part of the ban list announcement is the fact that they're giving themselves more ability to adapt to format changes with flexibility for their ban announcements. I think this might signify a change in philosophy from wizards as to how willing they will be to ban things in standard (and certainly banning an innocuous card like reflector mage speaks to that possible change in philosophy as well.)

[Thestatusquo]

cat? might see once polukranos rotates

also wut

[PeregrineV]

Mser meet up there like last SA right PV

I think it was 2, it might be 3 this time!

[PeregrineV]

Opened Tezzeret and Herald of Anguish at the prerelease. Feels good.

I think my best was Heart of Kiran. I've been told to sell or trade asap since its value is only going to drop.

[DeathNote]

Opened Tezzeret and Herald of Anguish at the prerelease. Feels good.

I think my best was Heart of Kiran. I've been told to sell or trade asap since its value is only going to drop.

Possible. Kiran will replace Copter in some decks tho and is really good with any deck that runs planeswalkers which I imagine, might be a lot.

[kdowns]

Mser meet up there like last SA right PV

I think it was 2, it might be 3 this time!

Yeah, It was just us two last time!

[DeathNote]

Man... burn is so close yet so far. I guess Black/Red Aggro is a little stronger but pure burn isn't a thing yet.

[Thestatusquo]

list:
+1 island
+1 mountain
- 1 inspiring vantage
- 1 wandering fumarole

+2 shock
- 1 radiant flames
- 1 descend upon the sinful

[Thestatusquo]

Sleeving up this beautiful monster this weekend.

[hasdgfas]

Sleeving up this beautiful monster this weekend.

Wow. That sure is 75 Magic: the Gathering Collectible Card Game cards.

[Thestatusquo]

Here are some sample hands.

[McMenno]

four color gifts toolbox, right?

[Natirasha]

I thought it was like Modern Highlander or something but the 4x gifts is confusing me.

[InflatablePie]

1) Mindslaver for your Academy Ruins
2) Unburial Rites, maybe with an Iona

if you're gonna go full "Highlander" (-Gifts) jank with -one- combo (Thopter/Sword)...

[Thestatusquo]

We specifically did not include those two packages because they're too easy mode.