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Post Post #7525  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:15 am

Deck building doesn't seem that bad? Very similar to Eternal's UI
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Post Post #7526  (ISO)  » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:10 pm

Their mana source selection algorithm is garbage.
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Post Post #7527  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:12 am

Hey everyone, I’m heading off to a FNM tonight with James Brafin, and I’m trying to bring a fun deck idea up to par with the meta. It’s a red-white deck based around the interaction between Goblin Chainwhirler (a good card in its own right) and Kwende. I want my core so far to be those two cards, Path of Mettle, and then some utility enchantments like Tilolanni’s Crown to take my deck to the next level.

So far the decklist is:
Nest Robber x3
Fanatical Firebrand x3
Rigging Runner x2
Charging Monstrosaur x1
Goblin Chainwhirler x2
Sun Sentinel x4
Everdawn Champion x3
Suncrested Pterodon x2
Kwende, Pride of Femeref x1

Path of Mettle x1
Tilonalli’s Crown x2
See Red x2

Moment of Triumph x4
Sure Strike x3

Warlord’s Fury x3

Plains x10
Mountain x14

I do want to note that I know that this deck is crummy rn, it’s designed to be played in our homebrew meta, where we play far less removal and such and focus much more on combat interaction. I’ve also bought 0 cards for the deck so far, meaning it’s all basically coming out of my big box of cards.

Strategy: The deck is designed to get out some early creatures such as Fanatical Firebrand to put pressure on the opponent and Everdawn Cahmpion to clog up the combat field. The deck tends to trade at a smaller level until a bigger card like Chainwhirler or Charging Monstrosaur can find their way into play, ant which point I can use cheap utility spells or enchantments to plow through my opponent. A classic sort of beat down deck. I included the Petrodons to have a flying aspect for late game pushes, plus with a Crown it’s a 5/4 flyer with Trample and conditional Vigilance, which allows it to dodge Seal Away. Path of Mettle allows me to put my opponent on a ticking clock, gives me a late game mana sink, and I can flip it relatively quick. Warlord’s Fury is a great utility card with Kwende, because it allows me to in theory give my whole field Double Strike without having to pack my deck with First Strike creatures.

My thoughts so far:
I need more Kwende and Path of Mettle for sure. Also more Chainwhirler perhaps?
There’s definitely some deck tech that needs to be replaced, like the Moment of Triumph, but I’m not sure what to slot there.
What should my balance be with my Firebrand/Robbers? The Firebrand is a a slightly better card, but Robber gives me a cheap way to activate my Petrodons, so I don’t need both in play. Or do I want my Petrodons at all?
My mama curve hits about the sweet spot, but what about dual-colored lands? Keep in mind I do have a budget, but I also have a full set of Stone Quarries I can dig out for the time being?
I’m not completely thrilled with Everdawn Champion. Obviously a replace card, but for what?
I also need to develop a good sideboard. I don’t have one yet, and that’s going to be crucial for my deck to play well.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Decklists?
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Post Post #7528  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:38 pm

Update:
Not going to the FNM tonight, but I’ve made some changes to the deck over the course of the day.
-4 Moment of Triumph
-1 Nest Robber
-1 Everdawn Champion
-1 Sun Sentinel
-3 Mountains

+4 Sheltering Light
+1 Kwende, Pride of Femeref
+1 Charging Monstrosaur
+1 Path of Mettle
+3 Stone Quarry

Also made a sideboard:
Tilonalli’s Summoner x2
Charging Tuskodon x2
Tilonalli’s Crown x2
Cast Out x2
Fervent Strike x4
Mafia Spray x3

I still want to cut my other Everdawn Champions (probably for another pair of Chainwhirler+Kwende). The Sheltering Light halos me dodge Ccreature removal, though it’s not perfect. Sideboard wise, I liked the Fervent Strike just if I’m playing against another Aggro. The Tuskodon is a good swapper with the Monstrosaur, in case the latter isn’t doing well enough. I think keeping my Summoners alive will be relatively easy in this deck, though they’re not crucial, so I didn’t main them. I want to look at replacing the Cast Outs with Seal Aways, but I don’t seem to have too much of a problem hitting 4 mana and it’s a bit more versatile.

Thoughts?
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Post Post #7529  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:00 pm

It's... difficult for me to know exactly how to help you build this deck. I could tell you how to optimize it but if you are just looking to have fun then by all means, play what you want! I would probably just put in a little more burn, take out enchantment buffs and vanilla creatures, then find whatever spicy thing you enjoy playing with. Red/White has great potential as an equipment deck and would probably fit awesome into what you are doing. Add in Danitha plus some unique equipment like helm of the hosts or Forebears blade plus she synergies with kwende.
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Post Post #7530  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:49 pm

I like this idea. With Varduk, Jousting Lance and Champion of the Flame available rn, that would really push my deck farther. And Helm of the Host would allow me to hold onto Kwende for longer and copy Danitha, which is quite a spicy combo.

-Nest Robber x2
-Rigging Runner x2
-Suncrested Petrodon x2
-Charging Monstrosaur x2
-See Red x2
-Sure Strike x3

+Varduk, Keeper of the Flame x2
+Champion of the Flame x2
+Danitha Capashen, Paragon x2
+Jousting Lance x2
+Helm of the Host x2
+Lighting Strike x3

This gives a decklist of:

Champion of the Flame x2
Fanatical Firebrand x3
Danitha, Capashen, Paragon x2
Goblin Chainwhirler x2
Sun Sentinel x3
Everdawn Champion x2
Varduk, Keeper of the Flame x2
Kwende, Pride of Femeref x2
Jousting Lance x2
Helm of the Host x2
Path of Mettle x2
Tilonalli’s Crown x2
Sheltering Light x4
Lightning Strike x3
Warlord’s Fury x3
Plains x10
Mountain x11
Stone Quarry x3

Sideboard:
Tilonalli’s Summoner x2
Charging Tuskodon x2
Tilonalli’s Crown x2
Cast Out x2
Fervent Strike x4
Mafia Spray x3


Obviously, I still need to cut the Sun Sentinels and the Everdawn Champions, though I’m not sure with what. The mana balance probably also needs tweaking.
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Post Post #7531  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:39 pm

Okay, next iteration:

Champion of the Flame x3
Danitha, Capashen, Paragon x3
Goblin Chainwhirler x2
Benalia Honor Guard x3
Varduk, Keeper of the Flame x2
Kwende, Pride of Femeref x3
Jousting Lance x4
Forebearer’s Sword x2
Helm of the Host x2
Path of Mettle x2
Sheltering Light x4
Lightning Strike x3
Pride of Conquerers x3
Plains x10
Mountain x11
Stone Quarry x3

Sideboard:
Tilonalli’s Summoner x2
Charging Tuskodon x2
Seal Away x3
Fervent Strike x4
Cobbled Wings x4

How’s that look?
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Post Post #7532  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:30 am

Looks like an entry level standard deck. How’s it performing?
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Post Post #7533  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:10 am

Still haven’t built it yet. Haven’t had the time to hit a game store to get my missing components.

I’ve also been thinking about the fact that there’s a subtheme of going wide between Varduk and the Summoners, and I’m wondering if I should replace the Charging Tuskodons in the sideboard with Benalish Marshals. It’s a great card to pair with Helm of the Host, it takes a bunch of my cards out of Magma Spray range, and if I dig up both (or a Helm) it plays like hell.
Also, should I make some room on my sideboard for Blackblake Reforged? I think just one copy would be fine, but is it worth it?
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Post Post #7534  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:45 am

Ahh you should get the pieces and try it out! Playing games is the best way to see what's working and what isn't.

Blackblade reforged is most effective with lots of legendary creatures. Forbears blade that DeathNote mentioned or even Captains Hook might be better in your current built.
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Post Post #7535  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:18 am

So i decided i want to sell off my legacy stuff.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

PM me if youre interested in anything, if you want something, I'd like you to cover shipping.

everything is priced way below TCGPlayer.com's values.

(I do know this is likely a longshot, but figured i might offer it up)

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Post Post #7536  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:57 pm

Just got all the cards I need!
Gonna go home and build the deck for testing now!
Also got 4 Clifftop Retreats because I got everything I needed for under 20$. Even with those I spent about 25$
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Post Post #7537  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:40 pm

nice!

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Post Post #7538  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:49 pm

RAVNICA YOU SAY

IS THAT THE CARD YOURE GONNA PLAY
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Post Post #7539  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:50 pm

RAVINICA HYPE
so ready for Boros/Orzhov
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Post Post #7540  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:52 pm

im want to play azorius turbofog
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Post Post #7541  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:52 pm

this has nothing to do with ravnica i just want to build turbo fog
what cards do you guys think should be in the deck?
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Post Post #7542  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:33 pm

We're getting a third Ravnica block? Ugh.
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Post Post #7543  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:13 pm

not technically a block but basically
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Post Post #7544  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:58 pm

Yeah, two large Ravnica sets and a third that supposed takes place on Ravnica but is themed around the overarching story instead of the plane itself.

I’m in for multicolor limited formats and shock land reprints. Should be pretty sweet as long as they don’t break standard again.
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Post Post #7545  (ISO)  » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:37 pm

We have our shock lands in standard again :)
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Post Post #7546  (ISO)  » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:25 am

Yeah, I really looking forward to rotation now
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Post Post #7547  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:59 pm

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how u guys feel about this
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Post Post #7548  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 pm

I honestly don’t know what to think about it
On one hand, flying and Lifelink for one mana is pretty good
On the other, it’s really prone to removal (Chainwhirler comes to mind) and viable pump for it is going to be a pain.
I think I prefer my one drop in Snubhorn Senteniel in terms of convoke (which I know sounds odd, but hey)
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Post Post #7549  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:07 pm

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