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Post Post #7775 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:07 pm

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Well, that was the problem. TSM spent all of the time between W1 and W2 scrimming SKT apparently.

edit: Joking aside, it does make me feel better about TSM continuing to disrespect Janna if Kkoma did as well. Clearly there was some disconnect between the various scrim blocks.
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Post Post #7776 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:09 pm

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Westdoor has a kid?

Looks like we got a badass dad up in here

P-EDIT: Huh. Makes a bit more sense. Why no LZ or RNG, though...?
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Post Post #7777 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:10 pm

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That is the team you would play if you wanted to shake them in the early game. SKT wants to prepare a roam or a TP to get a first tower, then out macro you. They're very good at it, but if you knock them out cold before they pull it out you're proving to yourself that you did it properly.

Sad thing is that I'm sure TSM did some lategame arms race shit in scrims with them to see if they could out teamfight the best. [though that flash from pray vs gam the other night was amazing]
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Post Post #7778 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:11 pm

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In post 7776, Voidedmafia wrote:Westdoor has a kid?

Looks like we got a badass dad up in here

P-EDIT: Huh. Makes a bit more sense. Why no LZ or RNG, though...?
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Post Post #7779 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:17 pm

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C9 gets their pick here: focusing on Clearlove or Scout is pretty much the key to killing EDG. Mouse is a role player, and focusing ADC is pointless in this meta (targon brace if you're losing for the shield, get an earlier ardent censer...). That's partly why Hans Sama has had an easy time. Focusing a side lane without an advantageous objective trade (free herald or double tower) would be a sign to me that EDG gets an opportunity to knock out C9 in a teamfight, which iBoy is really good at.

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Post Post #7780 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:21 pm

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I would honestly probably forsake and risk lz knowing my drafts just to ensure i'd get out of groups. Besides, SKT's still set for 1st plce, so it's not like there's any advantage there for TSM.
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Post Post #7781 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:31 pm

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C9 playing like an LPL team. EDG is fucked, despite the scoreline.
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Post Post #7782 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:43 pm

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In post 7781, Lycanfire wrote:C9 playing like an LPL team. EDG is fucked, despite the scoreline.
So...How are they killing Galio, again? Or Jarvan? I'm all ears, really.
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Post Post #7783 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:44 pm

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Post Post #7784 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:55 pm

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Post Post #7785 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:57 pm

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C9 at least tried to do something with the dive bot.
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Post Post #7786 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:48 pm

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Hot damn, EDG. Where was this last week?

At least C9 still has a chance , and it means they aren't forced to beat SKT to tie. If they DO beat SKT somehow, the absolute worst they can do is tie., but if they don't c9 vs. AHQ becomes absolutely paramount. And if EDG mnages to 3-0 this week.
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Post Post #7787 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:46 pm

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why the fuck did c9 think they could leave huni in their base???????????????
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Post Post #7788 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:52 pm

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C9 actually put up a fight. They've been the most consistent and best-looking team since 2014, honestly.

But yeah, there was just too much for them to overcome, especially from the Jayce split.

P-EDIT: I'm...not sure. Were they expecting to wipe SKT at Elder and come back in time to beat Huni?
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Post Post #7789 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:55 pm

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Maokai couldn't hold against the jayce, and the team couldn't win the 4v4, so they hoped to pull the trigger and force the fight with their tank to maybe be able to salvage the situation.

The situation was unwinnable at that point. The problem came from how they handled the baron -> push and the time impact died 1v1 to huni after the inhib trade. Mid inhib is worth less than bot inhib at that stage of the game, even ignoring the lost nexus tower.
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Post Post #7790 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:15 pm

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C9 and AHQ both going all-out, it seems, in this game. Maybe that can play to C9, though?
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Post Post #7791 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:29 pm

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STOP THE PRESSES! AN NA TEAM ACTUALY HAS A LEAD COMING TO 15 MINS! IS IT HAPPENING??!
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Post Post #7792 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:40 pm

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C9 CAN DO IT! IT'S HAPPENING!

Plus we're actually gonna go 2-11! ...Well, we'd better.
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Post Post #7793 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:23 pm

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Oh wow id be so happy if we dont get skt skins next year
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Post Post #7794 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:31 pm

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Seriously though, EDG was playing a very clean, patient game, and as soon as they played an impatient force they get punished for it. SKT's extremely solid going into the mid and late game even with their weakness in early game (which is an interesting thing to note: TSM plays like a worse SKT).
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Post Post #7795 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:37 pm

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Post Post #7796 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:55 pm

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TSM tries to play like SKT but doesn't have the same skill as SKT across the board, nor the willingness to play even a little proactive in the early game.
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Post Post #7797 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:58 pm

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WE GOT WE! This is the best possible draw we could get. That means EU's fucked, but yknow.

EDIT: LZ vs. SSG. That's gonna be a treat. lus, if C9 manages to get past WE, we have the easier(-ish) semis, so there IS a very small chance of finals.
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Post Post #7798 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:07 pm

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Msf vs Skt, C9 vs We and Lz and Ssg will be fun matches to watch.

Who is on which side of the bracket though? Will it be a SKT vs LZ finals?

Edit: Just saw the image: SKT vs RNG will be hype in the semi's though
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Post Post #7799 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:09 pm

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skt and rng on the left, lz and we on the right
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