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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:34 pm
by xRECKONERx
CLOUD NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:36 pm
by xRECKONERx
ready for the panzer tears

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:43 pm
by PJ.
Why should I cry? It's not league. Fights don't matter. Mistakes don't matter. Strategy doesn't exist. Riot made the game 30 minutes of reckless aggression and 50/50 barons so silvers and bronzes would watch it because that's 75% of the player base , and they were successful. The pros play just like them now.

Unwatchable.

But hey, now that there's probably only 1 good team left, it'll really save me on data trying to watch from work and save time doing vods in the morning. So really the winner is me.

(Full disclosure, bet on c9 so ez money)

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:42 pm
by xRECKONERx
it's not league bc i dont like how it's played REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:51 pm
by PJ.
It's not league because it's not being played like league has been played at the professional level for the entirety of its existence as a game.

Every game sucks. Every game goes the same way. The vision changes, the baron changes, and the ad changes has made a game that is as garbage to watch as it is to play. Makes sense that they would advertise this as best world's meta with 0 decision making and 0 skill expression when they trying to court new players because they are hemorrhaging players because the game sucks.

Bring back ardent please. Bring back carries mattering. Bring back vision. Bring back decisions.

The only decision is "face check baron cause we're behind and the enemy is bush hiding by baron"

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:09 pm
by PJ.
It's not a coincidence that the game being less strategy based and entirely centered around free fights is being won by Western teams that have struggled with macro for 8 years.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:28 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Except the majority of G2's wins have been as a result of 1-3-1 Macro never fight comps.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:37 pm
by PJ.
Except for the 3 games they took from rng by bush hiding in front of baron until they could final get it because uzi went to do something beside run to baron or some other trivial thing? Hide in baron bush, then split push is the most bronze ass shit in the game. It's okay though, y'all can like bad shiy. I'll just vote by a) not watching bad play and b) not purchasing things from riot. Fuck, might just switch to Dota until league is fixed like everyone else.

Sorry that the west needed riot to take the macro out of the game for them to win. Season 8 will be looked at like season 1. An anamoly that only happened because riot is trash

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:40 pm
by PJ.
Trust me, I get it, you fan boys are all hyped up that western teams finally are allowed to play, but at least acknowledge the meta is trash.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:13 pm
by PJ.
"This game is impossible to understand, they are ahead in kills and are making more plays but behind in gold" - Quickshot on EDG

Yes, quickshot, it's because this meta is trash and the only mistakes that matter are ones at 28 minutes near Baron, because death timers are too short that you can't sufficiently punish bad players for their mistakes.

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:16 pm
by PJ.
Cool, only need to watch one semi.

Pretty shitty that fnc won despite being outplayed for 4 straight games.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:16 am
by BROseidon
Love the salt

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:27 am
by PJ.
Not at the results tho. Salt is that Riot ruined league.

Canada Cup and Mid90s next weekend so worlds is over.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:34 am
by PJ.
It's really unfortunate that western fans are so win starved that they'd watch this garbage and like it, tbh.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:26 am
by animorpherv1
It's unfortunate that you're so confidence starved you need to tear down other people's fun.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:34 am
by PJ.
It sucks. I don't have to be "confidence starved" to vent my frustration that something I enjoy is no longer enjoyable.

Also, I've yet to be presented a reasonable argument that is against what I'm saying. No reason why they enjoy the meta. Nothing other than insults, "salt", and Go (western team). You want to know why? Cause you guys know it sucks and want to bask in it anyway. And that's frustrating. Cause you guys would rather have an unwatchable product and your team win then the watchable product we've had for 7 and half years and lose. That's just sad.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:55 am
by BROseidon
The product is still very watchable.

Much better than Ardent Censor meta or S3 snowball meta.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:55 am
by BROseidon
Actually yeah S3 snowball meta was the fucking worst.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:02 am
by PJ.
Both of those are significantly better than this cause there were decisions and counter play.

Ardent was arguably the best meta there ever was.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:11 am
by BROseidon
Lol the only decision in the S3 meta was "which
assassin midlaner
Zed do I pick to go off on"

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:32 am
by Lycanfire
Thank you Fnatic

I hope I never see that mutant fish freak again

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:03 am
by Lycanfire
My meta analysis

S tier: Papa, Kobe
A tier: Pastrytime, Vedius, Azael
B tier: Frosk (promotes to S+ tier every time she angers the twitch virgins), Deficio
C tier: Flowers
D tier: Spawn
E tier: that jester guy from mlg 6 years ago who was wearing a hat to cover his male pattern baldness
F tier: Quickshot, Riv, Phreak, LOUD NOISES FLOWERS, LOUD NOISES QUICKSHOT, LOUD NOISES PHREAK

If you disagree with this, your opinions are
SHIT
and you are unable to enjoy watching intellectual macro games

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:42 am
by MTD
yea that's what i meant panzer.
Everyone understood what your opinion is on your first post, noone agreed with it, everyone could move on, but no, you have to make 10 more posts about it whenever anyone else says something.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:50 am
by zoraster
I'd argue this is the most enjoyable world's meta yet (although the best match is still SKT vs. ROX Worlds 2016 Semi-finals) . And I definitely would have said that BEFORE Korea went out. It's certainly a more aggressive meta, but that doesn't mean there's no strategy (watching G2 carry out their 1-3-1 strat so well is hard to ignore). There's a lot of variety. Generally speaking, I hated any version of the protect the X comps that was so one dimensional, so last year's worlds was not my favorite.

Anyway, it's time to remind Panzer of The Scrub Article

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:43 am
by PJ.
Dude, I get playing to win. I understand. This isn't enjoyable to watch and I'm baffled as to why anyone thinks that it is, and despite everyone else being in agreement no one will offer a reason as to why: so a) you don't know what's going on or b) you don't genuinely enjoy it and only enjoy the result.

Why is it the best? Variety is a bullshit answer because there actually is no variety when every game bakes down to the same exact 26 minute baron play, every series besides kt-ig as basically been deja vu.