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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:57 am

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I never totally understood the best way to play venice. I always just established my happy little hermit kingdom with my one city challenge gogogo, allied every city state through the power of money, then waited for diplo victory to happen. City state buyouts always seemed dumb because they'd be puppet cities that I couldn't really do anything with, and I'd get more from having them as a city state ally, especially for diplo purposes
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:34 am

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The single most important disadvantage with Venice is that Venice is trash tier late game. Being on one city means you have considerable fewer population than other civs. You get less science per turn, less production per turn, less great people generation per turn than civs with more cities. It's a simple number game.

This isn't even considering that fact that multiplayer games almost always end in a domination victory, assuming you're playing against at least semi-competent players. All you have to do to screw over a sim city Venice is to just plunder his long distance trade routes. Trade routes are Venice's lifeline. Take that away from Venice and Venice becomes pretty much irrelevant.

imo, Venice's advantages are that that you can focus on population growth all the time (since you won't be building settlers); you can get national wonders up before other players (national college); you can get happiness from city states very easily meaning your first golden age will come sooner than normal.

This means Venice is a strong EARLY game civ, and as such you have to do something with that advantage and hope you can snowball from there. Otherwise you'll end up being irrelevant. Your goal as Venice is to destroy at least one civ with an early timing push (comp bow + swords + cavs).

Venice's early game advantage means you get more free turns to focus on military. You can usually afford to have built/prebuilt a sizable army, have a militaristic city state ally, built TerraCotta by the time other players have just finished planting their expansions.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:21 am

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are you guys still doing civ 5/6 games? would love to join in if so.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:11 pm

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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:15 pm

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In post 653, hiplop wrote:i am i am
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:48 pm

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In post 654, Alisae wrote:
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:18 am

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I stupidly never got civ6
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:26 am

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In post 655, Shaziro wrote:
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:48 am

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In post 657, McMenno wrote:
In post 655, Shaziro wrote:
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:44 am

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awesome! what time/date would work for you guys and which game would you prefer playing?
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:33 am

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6 plz I paid money for it
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:39 am

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V plz it's more fun.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:59 am

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I am interested in participating in the game titled "Sid Meier's Civilization VI".
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:01 am

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In post 662, McMenno wrote:I am interested in participating in the game titled "Sid Meier's Civilization VI".
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:38 am

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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:59 am

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Oh my god there are others who actually like 6 because I want to do that yes please
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:19 pm

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alright, that's cool. when would you guys be down to play?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:21 pm

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If someone is willing to TEACH me Civ 6 I'll play it.
But I rather do 5.

Also I'm usually free as long as its not late Tuesday since I have class then.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:40 pm

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I'd rather do 5, cause I'm not paying full price for 6. I goofed and missed the humble bundle
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:49 pm

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In post 667, Alisae wrote:If someone is willing to TEACH me Civ 6 I'll play it.
But I rather do 5.

Also I'm usually free as long as its not late Tuesday since I have class then.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:14 pm

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THANK YOU ELBRIN
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:19 pm

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Who's around tonight?
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:19 pm

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I will try 6 again eventually, but 5 has been a lot more fun.

I tried a huge Fractal map with Arabia. More stressful, went for the Diplo win, but had Venice being a bitch on another island (thought fractal was meant to be one large and lots of small) unfortunately only 12 city states spawned and Venice ate about 4 of them. Still won easily, with a Science Victory not so far away, if all else failed. Poland was about 200 points ahead of me throughout, only in the last bit of the game (Satellites) did I find he had 16 cities. Not sure what the computer was doing there. I took China out. They were pissing me off.

I've just started another game as Austria, who I've never seen or played against before. It was randomly chosen. Turn 200 currently. I've probably commited myself to culture now, although thanks to being randomly assigned a Archipelago map I wasnt able to get cities out easily or in many good food spaces (masses of production though) got 3 now, plus married Wittenberg. America has grown exponentially more than me though... this could be my second loss on Prince (I always say I should buff up my diffuculty). China beat me once a couple years back, it's why I take them out almost every game Im in with them.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:36 pm

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In post 671, Mina wrote:Who's around tonight?

I'm grounded. Got girlfriend
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:54 pm

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i could play tonight
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