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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:31 pm

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It's because with the map generator civ has it makes Tradition way superior to Liberty, Honor, and Piety.
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Piety is not one of the main social policy trees you go down first. Maybe 2nd but definitely not first.
Honor is just lol bad
and then there's liberty which makes building things like Oxford (which you would normally save for late game), and National College just really hard to build and not really worth it mostly because you'll have so many cities that it costs so much production just to build one. Not to mention happiness issues but that gets solved if you settle smartly.

And then there's Tradition which allows you to not waste 7 or 8 turns building Monuments depending on what speed your on, and also has some built in Food and Happiness and Tradition was just ment to be used for Tall play.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:38 am

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One of these days I might actually play some more Civ 6.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:36 pm

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In post 575, Alisae wrote:.SNIP.
Honestly no matter what you want to do, Tradition is nearly always the best startup. Even if you plan on going wide and think "oh I should go liberty", even then tradition seems to be a faster start by giving you a strong starting core to then expand from

Plus if you go liberty and then you don't get to settle a fuck ton of cities for any reason, you're boned.

I tend to go max tradition -> honor opener if I'm getting wrecked by barbarians (optional) -> cherry pick some policies from liberty while waiting for rationalism to be available -> max rationalism -> after doing that who cares you already won the game just pick whatever you want, and don't forget to pick order ideology because the revolution must live on
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:42 pm

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I will note that the free worker and then settler that you get from liberty can be greatly helpful, particularly if you don't get to steal a city state worker in the early game, and I think the pyramids are a top tier wonder that I imagine is quite under rated
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:46 pm

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I don't actually go for order
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:20 pm

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In post 579, Alisae wrote:I don't actually go for order
But
But
why
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:32 pm

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In post 580, Elbirn wrote:
In post 579, Alisae wrote:I don't actually go for order
But
But
why
Autocracy is fun?
mostly Futurism and Mobilization
Gold Purchasing strats
Also Prora is fun if you can build it.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:59 pm

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In post 581, Alisae wrote:
In post 580, Elbirn wrote:
In post 579, Alisae wrote:I don't actually go for order
But
But
why
Autocracy is fun?
mostly Futurism and Mobilization
Gold Purchasing strats
Also Prora is fun if you can build it.

Upon fuhrer review (heheh) autocracy is actually an acceptable alternative and I've merely forgotten

I guess it's like
When I play, I want all the production and science, and order gives that to me, as well as several happiness boosting policies and gold cost reduction when purchasing buildings

Autocracy is all military all the time which is fun if that's what you're doing that game but I usually don't feel like killing everyone and would literally drag a game out waiting for my inevitable science/culture victory while happily playing Sim city, rather than being smart and getting the game over with by taking all the capitals


I never said I was good, just that I like civ.


I did have a great game as autocratic shoshone on a large earth map w/domination victory only, where I did honor like a madman
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:01 pm

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Well I mean
I'm like the scum of the earth when it comes to this game
I get alhambra and push out Blitz Xcoms because that's fun.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:14 pm

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See I'm the kind of guy who sees Alhambra and goes "Aw yeah, 20% bonus culture!" And I'm not even trying for a culture victory
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:48 pm

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In post 583, Alisae wrote:Well I mean
I'm like the scum of the earth when it comes to this game
I get alhambra and push out Blitz Xcoms because that's fun.
Lol, I do this more than I should to my friends.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:51 pm

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In post 585, wgeurts wrote:
In post 583, Alisae wrote:Well I mean
I'm like the scum of the earth when it comes to this game
I get alhambra and push out Blitz Xcoms because that's fun.
Lol, I do this more than I should to my friends.
Yeah it's kinda hilarious
Just get some stealth bombers or nukes and just take their capital as soon as you declare war
always a fun way to play civ.


Like
you wasted 6-8 hours on one game
just to have that happen to you.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:36 pm

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Alisae also spends all game fighting over a tiny stretch of land on a coastline with a belligerent Venice until somebody else wins without ever fighting a battle.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:37 pm

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Shaziro stawp bullying me you B-Baka >_<
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:34 am

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When me and my friends play civ we just ally each other and then kill any AI's that are around and then build happy little countries like a bunch of Bob Ross's painting happy little trees

We are all very good friends
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:12 am

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In post 589, Elbirn wrote:When me and my friends play civ we just ally each other and then kill any AI's that are around and then build happy little countries like a bunch of Bob Ross's painting happy little trees

We are all very good friends
Don't you ever have uranium make one a monster?
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:41 pm

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In post 590, wgeurts wrote:
In post 589, Elbirn wrote:When me and my friends play civ we just ally each other and then kill any AI's that are around and then build happy little countries like a bunch of Bob Ross's painting happy little trees

We are all very good friends
Don't you ever have uranium make one a monster?
No we sell that to any AI's that are left
Sometimes we decide that we like one of them and declare them switzerland.

One time I saw one of them was closing in on a diplomatic victory so I conquered all of his city state allies and then felt bad
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:32 pm

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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:17 am

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Does anyone want to play this weekend?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:18 am

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Idk about this weekend but I'll have much more free time this whole next week in general cuz I took off work just because. If someone plans a game I'd like to join

Actually weekend may be fine depending on when, idk
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:05 pm

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We'll see who else can play. And it's not like we'll finish a game in one sitting so mayhaps we can set up multiple nights.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:21 pm

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bump for next weekend
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:17 am

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Oh its monday, rip.

Uhmm is anyone available this week or no?
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:18 pm

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omg guys
can I try to set this up?
it'd be really fun and stuff.

I should be avalable this week and stuff.
Just say something about who's interested en stuff?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:55 am

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In post 598, Alisae wrote:omg guys
can I try to set this up?
it'd be really fun and stuff.

I should be avalable this week and stuff.
Just say something about who's interested en stuff?
Plz do, I should be good like any day
Find frands and make them play

I think nahdia and Cerberus are into civ, that'd be super swell!
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