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[PJ.]

Or not play druid

[PJ.]

Weehaw I hit 5.

[PJ.]

Things that I noticed climbing from 15 to 5 in like 5 days playing almost exclusively aggro druid. Cubelock matchup is not good but it's not nearly as bad as Big priest which felt like I was the mortor and they were the pestle. As long as you played around defile sufficiently and closed the game out before possessed lackey or before a hard cast 3/9 guy it was fine. The Barnes into obsidian dude into the discover revive from big is just oppressive for a swarm deck. Idk if how can check my own personal stats or if I needed a tracker to do that prior to playing, but I rarely lost to anything that wasn't priest or warlock. My deck rolled over against a Murdock paladin this morning, I got outvalued by a secret hunter once, and that was basically it. I think I was undefeated against aggro paladin, tempo rogue was typically too slow to deal with dudes + mark/power, face hunter got nothing (which is why I abandoned it), I feel like I didn't play any druids past 9-10 and the ones I did play were jade and got crushed. Oh I did split with mage. Either they did nothing and got rolled or they got their explosive runes out early enough to stop my wall of dudes then dropped their cheap 5/5 but it wasn't a discouraging match up by any means. Shaman and Warrior don't exist.

Of the priest, highlander was far and away the easiest match up and I only saw it a couple times, spiteful without dragons seemed to come up a bit and that was ezpz(or they just didn't draw their dudes), but the dragon decks with the 3/3 board wipe guy weren't a cake walk but weren't nearly as impossible as big.

Cubelock was probably 40-60. Crushed other warlocks.

I might build the pally deck and mess around cause I'm p sure I can't drop from 5, right?

Tl;Dr: if you're trying to grind today for your golden purple, try aggro druid because it as an even or better match up with everything beside the control warlock decks and big priest and if you have patches it's probably the cheapest deck by far(dust price cheap not like..cheese cheap)

[Shadoweh]

I watched Klick get Legend this month with what I titled "What is this terrible garbage Paladin deck and why are you running the legendary weapon in Aggro?"
I'm just mad that Shaman doesn't seem to have a deck this expansion. :/ I just want to evolve!

[PJ.]

I just crafted that deck, it's STRONG. it's not as easy to play as druid, imo.

[DeathNote]

I'm a very poor sport when it comes to this game lol.

I play against hunter and swing my firefly into a wandering monster. He gets eaten by a 3/3.

Next game, I play wandering monster after my opponent plays firefly. He trades into my 5/1. I play another wandering monster to handle the second part of firefly, still trades into yet ANOTHER 5/1.

I concede because of how tilted that makes me.

[Thestatusquo]

Things that I noticed climbing from 15 to 5 in like 5 days playing almost exclusively aggro druid. Cubelock matchup is not good but it's not nearly as bad as Big priest which felt like I was the mortor and they were the pestle. As long as you played around defile sufficiently and closed the game out before possessed lackey or before a hard cast 3/9 guy it was fine. The Barnes into obsidian dude into the discover revive from big is just oppressive for a swarm deck. Idk if how can check my own personal stats or if I needed a tracker to do that prior to playing, but I rarely lost to anything that wasn't priest or warlock. My deck rolled over against a Murdock paladin this morning, I got outvalued by a secret hunter once, and that was basically it. I think I was undefeated against aggro paladin, tempo rogue was typically too slow to deal with dudes + mark/power, face hunter got nothing (which is why I abandoned it), I feel like I didn't play any druids past 9-10 and the ones I did play were jade and got crushed. Oh I did split with mage. Either they did nothing and got rolled or they got their explosive runes out early enough to stop my wall of dudes then dropped their cheap 5/5 but it wasn't a discouraging match up by any means. Shaman and Warrior don't exist.

Of the priest, highlander was far and away the easiest match up and I only saw it a couple times, spiteful without dragons seemed to come up a bit and that was ezpz(or they just didn't draw their dudes), but the dragon decks with the 3/3 board wipe guy weren't a cake walk but weren't nearly as impossible as big.

Cubelock was probably 40-60. Crushed other warlocks.

I might build the pally deck and mess around cause I'm p sure I can't drop from 5, right?

Tl;Dr: if you're trying to grind today for your golden purple, try aggro druid because it as an even or better match up with everything beside the control warlock decks and big priest and if you have patches it's probably the cheapest deck by far(dust price cheap not like..cheese cheap)

From playing a lot of big priest last season, I can say that when that deck loses to aggro druid its due to its own fail rate, you don't have tricks like tarim or giving all your dudes divine shield like paladin, so its really hard for you to beat just one full sized statue.

That being said, the fail rate for big priest IS super high. Even if you hard mulligan for barnes, which you don't do any way because the removal is too important to also mulligan for against aggro, you have about a 20% chance of hitting it in your opener. (each card you keep lowers that chance by a little over 3%.) Then you have additional 4%-5% or so each draw step. Its not super likely to hit it on four. About 1 in every 4 games. And on top of that, sometimes it pulls nonsense. If I hit ysera, for instance, you still are probably a huge favorite to win the game.

This is part of why I stopped playing big priest. I got really tired of not drawing barnes or getting nice turn 6 6 mana 5/5 barnes. If I could guarantee that barnes was in my opener every game I think big priest would be the best deck in the format, but "the best deck in the format every 5-6 games" is not nearly as enticing.

[Sudo_Nym]

I've started playing aggro hunter, and frankly, it feels like a worse version of tempo rogue.

[JasonWazza]

I mean, isn't secret hunter a better version of Aggro hunter right now?

Because you just aim to turn 5 4 3/3's and win off that.

[Sudo_Nym]

Aggro and Secret Hunter are basically the same deck at this point. Aggro is still playing Cloaked Huntress and the Spellstone, they just play an overall lower curve.

[Thestatusquo]

And neither deck is very good.

[PJ.]

Are we calling Face Hunter the "aggro" hunter? If so, it's nothing like secret hunter and I think it's the better deck of the two. Unfortunately though I think the best hunter deck might be the pre-Kobolds midrange hunter deck except it replaces kill command with flanking strike.

[PJ.]

But it doesn't matter cause midrange is out classed by tempo rogue and face is outclassed by the druid and paladin aggto decks. The reason Face is not great is kinda the same reason pirate warrior is dead. Face is totally fine to get to 13ish with tho.

[DeathNote]

whaaa i wanna move past rank 18 but keep losing.

[PJ.]

How? I don't mean to sound like shea, but like...put the mans on the ground, punch face. I'm not going to say I can get to 10 with basics or anything, but getting to 15 with any budget aggro deck shouldn't be a problem. After about a week most of the good players are already back past 10.

[PJ.]

What are you playing? What's giving you trouble? Why aren't you winning?

[DeathNote]

Tempo rogue then face Hunter when that wasn't working. I played and lost three Hunter games today vs no spells Hunter, zoolock, and taunt warrior.

[DeathNote]

Zoolock won because kaledesh on 2.

Hunter won because back to back explosive traps and i had no good attacks.

Warrior... I don't remember.

[PJ.]

what does your tempo deck look like?

[JasonWazza]

Do remember that it's still early in the season, it's easier to climb later in the month because the quality of players goes down.

That said i do have to say, cheapish/budget agro decks are going to have a hard time against proper agro decks.

[PJ.]

Okay, but ~30% of your games are going to be against bad players playing slow decks or decks heavily reliant on proper mulligans. Secret Mage, Dragon Priest, and Control Lock are going to be roughly 1/3rd of your games. Play around their bullshit. Another 14% is gonna be bad players playing highlander and jade. So that's just under half your games against decks that you should just storm through. The only decks with a large market share that are gonna out value you early are tempo rogue and aggro paladin..that's about 15% the res of the decks are just assorted bad stuff

[DeathNote]

http://www.metabomb.net/hearthstone/dec ... thstone-76

Pretty much this deck but sub out Corridor Creepers for Tar Creepers just because I don't have dust to craft them.

[xRECKONERx]

dust something to craft them. corridor creepers ARE standard right now

[Thestatusquo]

Can't help but agree. If you're going to craft only one thing from this set it should be 2 corridor creeper.

Also, I don't understand the statement "I cant afford to craft them." Do you guys just wait to build up dust naturally? Just dust things that are unlikely to see play. Like, whenever you need to. I don't understand not being able to get 800 dust very easily just from dusting the nonsense epics and rares you wont ever play.

[Thestatusquo]

Zoolock won because kaledesh on 2.

Hunter won because back to back explosive traps and i had no good attacks.

Warrior... I don't remember.

Wait...Question. Are you keeping your 1 drop pirates in your opener/playing them early?

That could be a big part of your problem. You pretty much don't ever want to pull patches from the deck with anything besides the lord.