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[PJ.]

are we talking about shudderwock?

[Sudo_Nym]

Ye

[Errantparabola]

Shudderwock has actually scared me off from playing wild, until I have more witchwood cards to build a legit solid deck.
I don't even know how good it is in wild but with Loatheb + N'Zoth access I'd imagine it being pretty frustrating to deal with unless you have whatever is the top tier aggro flavor of the month

[Shadoweh]

MY JAWS THAT BITE MY CLAWS THAT CAMY JAWS THAT BITE MY JAWS THAT BITE MY CLAWS MY JAWS

So I really like this set <.<

[DeathNote]

I'm so tired of playing against paladin. I lose every time. What deck should i play to beat it?

[JasonWazza]

Paladin

[Klick]

Warlock's your best bet for a hard Paladin counter. Or possibly Hand Druid, though that's kind of a meme.

[Klick]

Oh, I almost forgot Taunt Warrior. That's the best counter I think.

[Sudo_Nym]

Warlock is still probably the best class, especially against aggro. The deck is all AOE and cheating out voidlords.

[DeathNote]

I'm playing hand druid right now and did pretty well with it for a little bit but then just kept getting crushed by equality. They always seem to have 2 of equalities -_-

[Sudo_Nym]

I haven't played Hand Druid yet, but based on the streams I've watched, it seems to be a deck that's great against any deck without AOE, and rolls over to any deck with AOE. Warlock, Priest with Psychic Scream, and Paladins with Equality all walk on it, but it can stomp anything else.

[Klick]

I don't know nearly enough about Hand Druid to know for sure on this but wouldn't an early Mountain Giant be pretty devastating for Cubelock?

[Klick]

I'm currently 36-16 with a Midrange Hunter I put together yesterday. I forget where I started the climb, I think top of Rank 10, but I'm Rank 4 now. Dire Frenzy is surprisingly good with early-game minions (and Huffer!), especially when you have Tracking to search for the buffed minions. Oh, and Houndmaster Shaw is insane if it manages to survive a turn. Vicious Scalehide is the reason I can beat aggro and is insanely good with Dire Frenzy.

The list isn't super refined or anything, but I'll post it here anyway:

### Midrange
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Dire Mole
# 2x (1) Jeweled Macaw
# 2x (1) Tracking
# 2x (2) Crackling Razormaw
# 1x (2) Hunting Mastiff
# 2x (2) Scavenging Hyena
# 2x (2) Vicious Scalehide
# 2x (3) Animal Companion
# 2x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Kill Command
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 2x (4) Dire Frenzy
# 2x (4) Houndmaster
# 1x (4) Houndmaster Shaw
# 1x (4) Spellbreaker
# 1x (6) Deathstalker Rexxar
# 2x (6) Savannah Highmane
#
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[Errantparabola]

I'll post a list as well, cause I just opened Shaw. Patron Hunter.

### Patron
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Wild
#
# 1x (1) Hunter's Mark
# 2x (1) Jeweled Macaw
# 2x (1) On the Hunt
# 1x (1) Sir Finley Mrrgglton
# 2x (2) Freezing Trap
# 2x (2) Mad Scientist
# 1x (2) Venomstrike Trap
# 2x (2) Wild Pyromancer
# 1x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 2x (3) Animal Companion
# 2x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Kill Command
# 1x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 2x (4) Flanking Strike
# 1x (4) Houndmaster Shaw
# 2x (5) Grim Patron
# 2x (6) Necrotic Geist
# 2x (6) Savannah Highmane
#
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I haven't played many games but it definitely wins some, at least. Will not win most. Will refine more.

[Klick]

are you all ready for this because this is going to be the most memey deck you've ever seen (in standard at least)

TOGLOCK

I've heard a little bit about a combo going around in Wild for Druid that gets to fatigue and then steals people's decks. I wanted to recreate that in Standard, and I found that Warlock can actually pull it off.

The whole idea is that you reach fatigue as soon as possible while playing what's otherwise regular Control Warlock. This can be sped up significantly with Hemet, Jungle Hunter. Once you're out of cards, you play the following cards in order to make a (10)-mana combo:

- Summoning Portal, Summoning Portal, Faceless Manipulator: minions now cost (6) less
- King Togwaggle: swap decks with your opponent
- Azalina Soulthief: replace your hand with a copy of your opponent's hand

This leaves your opponent in fatigue and you with all of their resources. If they try to swap the decks again, you just swap them right back. Prince Taldaram is in the deck too to make the combo even cheaper when he manages to make his way into your final hand, and also to allow for flexibility (if you want to use Faceless on a Voidlord or something).

I've pushed from Rank 5 to almost Rank 3 with it so far. Going to be trying to push further tomorrow night. The deck performs extremely well against any type of control deck (Cubelock, Control Priest, Quest Warrior, Big Spell Mage, Taunt Druid, jaws that bite and claws that catch). Here's the list if anyone's interested (though obviously don't craft Togwaggle or Hemet unless you already have them or have a lot of dust):

### Toglock
# Class: Warlock
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Dark Pact
# 2x (1) Kobold Librarian
# 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# 1x (2) Curse of Weakness
# 2x (2) Defile
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 2x (2) Plated Beetle
# 1x (3) Prince Taldaram
# 1x (4) Hellfire
# 2x (4) Summoning Portal
# 1x (5) Faceless Manipulator
# 2x (5) Possessed Lackey
# 1x (6) Hemet, Jungle Hunter
# 1x (6) Siphon Soul
# 1x (7) Azalina Soulthief
# 1x (8) King Togwaggle
# 2x (8) Twisting Nether
# 2x (9) Voidlord
# 1x (10) Bloodreaver Gul'dan
#
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[Shadoweh]

The number of people who clearly had no idea what was happening until their deck was gone was hilarious. 5 stars would recommend like and subscribe

[Draynth]

Sounds like a lot of fun

[Gammagooey]

are you all ready for this because this is going to be the most memey deck you've ever seen (in standard at least)

TOGLOCK

I've heard a little bit about a combo going around in Wild for Druid that gets to fatigue and then steals people's decks. I wanted to recreate that in Standard, and I found that Warlock can actually pull it off.

The whole idea is that you reach fatigue as soon as possible while playing what's otherwise regular Control Warlock. This can be sped up significantly with Hemet, Jungle Hunter. Once you're out of cards, you play the following cards in order to make a (10)-mana combo:

- Summoning Portal, Summoning Portal, Faceless Manipulator: minions now cost (6) less
- King Togwaggle: swap decks with your opponent
- Azalina Soulthief: replace your hand with a copy of your opponent's hand

This leaves your opponent in fatigue and you with all of their resources. If they try to swap the decks again, you just swap them right back. Prince Taldaram is in the deck too to make the combo even cheaper when he manages to make his way into your final hand, and also to allow for flexibility (if you want to use Faceless on a Voidlord or something).

I've pushed from Rank 5 to almost Rank 3 with it so far. Going to be trying to push further tomorrow night. The deck performs extremely well against any type of control deck (Cubelock, Control Priest, Quest Warrior, Big Spell Mage, Taunt Druid, jaws that bite and claws that catch). Here's the list if anyone's interested (though obviously don't craft Togwaggle or Hemet unless you already have them or have a lot of dust):

### Toglock
# Class: Warlock
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Dark Pact
# 2x (1) Kobold Librarian
# 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# 1x (2) Curse of Weakness
# 2x (2) Defile
# 2x (2) Doomsayer
# 2x (2) Plated Beetle
# 1x (3) Prince Taldaram
# 1x (4) Hellfire
# 2x (4) Summoning Portal
# 1x (5) Faceless Manipulator
# 2x (5) Possessed Lackey
# 1x (6) Hemet, Jungle Hunter
# 1x (6) Siphon Soul
# 1x (7) Azalina Soulthief
# 1x (8) King Togwaggle
# 2x (8) Twisting Nether
# 2x (9) Voidlord
# 1x (10) Bloodreaver Gul'dan
#
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that looks fantastic and I have togwaggle but I'd still need to craft Azalina and like...most of a control lock deck

[Klick]

One thing worth noting - if you want to sub in three-drops you can, and I should probably consider putting some in. Prince isn't used until your deck is literally empty.

And yeah Controllock is crazy expensive. I don't have Godfrey or he'd probably be in it as well.

[DeathNote]

obligatory me hating this game more then any game I've ever played...

[Espeonage]

So I just restarted playing again.

I have Aggro druid built and I'm not far off building all spells Hunter. But I am trying to make Control Hunter work.

Still feels pretty good in to midrange, and control decks. But falls a bit due to not have any enough cheap removal. Also relys a bit strongly on drawing Rexxar early against control decks to out trade value. Bc almost all removal is minion only so you can't go face with damage like mage can.

I also beat my Arena record. I had a 10 win run which feels pretty good for someone that has never been past level 14 on ladder.

[PJ.]

What am I supposed to be playing post nerf? Was I supposed to cash in rogue quest? Def don't cash in call, right?

[Espeonage]

Control priest didn't get hurt really.

[PJ.]

=(

[Shadoweh]

I mean, cash in everything and wait for it to sort out right? That's what I did. I found out I had a gold Dark Pact.
It seems like Spiteful decks haven't actually changed post-nerf.