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I still think Ridley was better saved for closer to release
On a very positive note I like the Technique additions and Modifications quite a bit

so then what's stupid

just the level of over-doing it
I'm happy for the inclusion of everyone from the past but it just feels a little insane that they're doing it. I kinda feel like they're taking a small step back in some parts, like not giving all pokemon trainer mons their own slot, which means that pokemon trainer technically has the most options out of anyone.

So did Sheik/Zelda back in the day but no one used both.

Well weren't they both bottom tier even with that?

Sheik was top tier in melee

The only negative I can see for the roster is that understanding frame data or 70 characters will be tedious but a) that's only gonna effect a small number of players, b) there's less of it than in other games cause less moves in general, and c) it's not like KoF doesn't already have like 50 characters so the load isn't that much bigger than some games that already exist.

more characters =/= better

more diverse characters = better

let's hope there's less 'clone' in these 'echo' fighters

Echo fighters aren't the worst. Clones and alt skins allow for more repisentation. Like having classic and metal sonic be skins would be rad cause sonics current skins aren't that great.

In post 182, vonflare wrote:more characters =/= better

more diverse characters = better

let's hope there's less 'clone' in these 'echo' fighters

Honestly even before they weren't too cloney imo
Lucina had different damage distribution across her blade (even rather than more at the edge), and Dark Pit was kinda slower and more powerful than Pit
As for Daisy I think she moved faster than Peach when she was shown off but that's just an at-a-glance thought

Dark pit is probs the least nessisary echo character. In the tier list he isn't even a diffrent placement than pit.

Also I heated there will be no custom moves.

Custom moves were annoying to grind for

Grinding in Ssb4 was annoying in general. The single player modes weren't that great overall.

I think when the you have a cast of 70 characters or whatever, three clones really isn't that big of a deal as far as diversity goes.

I just hope there are more new characters. There is a reason people like Pichu got cut. No one wanted them. I don't think any of the cut ones other than Snake/Ice Climbers were that missed?

Roy was our boy.

Roy was DLC in Sm4sh tho
Honestly I wish they'd have a rotating roster of FE characters to cut down on them, not that I dislike the series but for a niche franchise they have a lot of reps

But all the awakening and after characters are popular. Also, who would you want to replace the, the Nintendo roster seems pretty fully utilized. Are you just wanting more guest characters from better companies?

@hippo, lots of people missed snake and ice climbers. Especially ice climber

yea that is what i said dummo

people missed wolf as well. pichu and young link though...

getting wild innit

Yeah that direct was insane
Let's hope the blurred out mode is a story mode of some sort

i main wii fit trainer now
she's actually pretty fun to play

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