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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:56 am
by Randomnamechange
alternatively you have janna ult, raka ult, karma ulted shield etc

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:58 am
by RayFrost
I specifically mentioned lulu ult because it gives bonus health, which, at rank 3, stacks with the stoneplate active for 1200 base bonus health on target stoneplate user, which adds an additional 432 health on the locket shield for a maximum total of 3360 (1200 from stoneplate synergy + 2260 from locket and stoneplate synergy) health given just from her pressing the button with 0 ap.

I just realized that this isn't actually completely accurate math because they made the locket's health scaling scale with levels from 2-36%

So I'd need to adjust my math for that, but yeah.

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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:01 am
by Randomnamechange
oh god i didnt even think of that i was just talking about survivability

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:17 am
by RayFrost
Looking at a max rank max level bonus to locket's item efficiency when combined with stoneplate, lulu ult could be seen to be worth around 8960 gold without the knockup or slow effects or any ap, assuming locket shields the entire team. Each missed person is slightly less than 1200 gold value lost.

So, stoneplate and locket become vastly gold efficient just by having a lulu press r, without any other health items or health bonuses taken into account (they cost 4700 gold total). Given you start with more than 0 max health, the efficiency of these two items in combination is absolutely nutty. Worth noting is that stoneplate is 121.6% gold efficient without its active if the passive is in effect. Locket becomes gold efficient when it provides 195 health shielding.

After a certain point there's probably a case of it being of little to no value to have that much shielding (and, therefore, that much health) because people aren't burning through that number, but I've no clue how to reasonably calculate that. If you could figure that out, you could probably optimize health amounts or whatever and min/max team composition / item building around it.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:49 am
by dramonic
I am about to play in a tournament and am fully ready to get smashed.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:52 am
by MariaR
Goodluck friend

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:54 am
by Randomnamechange
gl if it is still happening if not hope it went well

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:10 am
by Papa Zito
Man I remember getting smashed in tournaments.


good times

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:36 am
by hiplop
played in one tournament and the other team won with like 45 kills to 0 and it was awful

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:22 am
by Draynth
I played on one of the top teams in Ireland for a long time, gave it up due to a pretty toxic community (Not toxic in the 'OMG U NOOB' sense, more toxic as in manipulative etc.). It was unfortunate but I had fun while it lasted.

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:27 pm
by Psyche
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:57 pm
by Lycanfire
fully embracing the fnatic fighting spirit by spamming supports like camille and j4. winrate is pretty abysmal, but it's improving as i charge needlessly to my death less. i only ever enjoy league if i can playmake and shotcall since my mechanics have always been shit. being on a near suicide mission is effective in taking my team hostage which is preferable to being ignored if i play janna, the champion i had the highest winrate on before i became shit at video games.

i recommend it! if you need something closer to meta, malzahar still performs well despite the nerfs.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:30 pm
by Dunnstral
Camille is actually a viable support (in an engage kind of way, not great at peeling)

j4 not really

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:40 pm
by Dunnstral
sometimes I like to bring out the taliyah support


mixed results

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:53 pm
by Lycanfire
i abuse locket stoneplate really hard. plus i have much better results on j4. maybe because i've played him since s1. as for camille i sometimes shoot my web at enemies like an idiot when throwing it at a wall would be the difference between a kill and feeding a double kill.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:41 pm
by PJ.
Uh, j4 is a much better support than camille. Also Kareem Abdul jabbar.

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:52 am
by zoraster
J4 seems a pretty good support for an assassin based kill lane.

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:59 am
by Draynth
Lee Sin / J4 botlane season 2 and 3 was so much fun

(Lee can w to j4's flag so it makes for some great plays if you're premade / on voice comms)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:13 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3015, PJ. wrote:Uh, j4 is a much better support than camille.

:roll:

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:48 pm
by RayFrost
In post 3017, Draynth wrote:Lee Sin / J4 botlane season 2 and 3 was so much fun

(Lee can w to j4's flag so it makes for some great plays if you're premade / on voice comms)
Isn't the classic pantheon j4 just because SPEARS SPEARS SPEARS SPEARS SPEARS

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:52 pm
by hiplop
i cant win a game anymore =[ (took like a year off pretty much)

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:15 pm
by PJ.
You couldn't win a game before either zzzz

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:59 am
by Papa Zito
In post 3019, RayFrost wrote:
In post 3017, Draynth wrote:Lee Sin / J4 botlane season 2 and 3 was so much fun

(Lee can w to j4's flag so it makes for some great plays if you're premade / on voice comms)
Isn't the classic pantheon j4 just because SPEARS SPEARS SPEARS SPEARS SPEARS
Yup that's the one.

It's actually cuz point-and-click stun into flag knockup and destroying your armor but yeh also SPEARS SPEARS SPEARS

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:14 am
by Bins
oops I started playing league again

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:34 am
by PJ.
yikes.

play with me binsy