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anyone here play AI: The Somnium Files? feels fitting here rather than creating an entire new thread.
i'm pretty proud that i solved the mystery before it was revealed but maybe everyone did.
also aiba is the best.- CaptainMeme
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I'm currently playing through AI: the Somnium Files! I think I'm about halfway through but I'm not sure - I know these games tend to have a lot more to them than you think they will!
I'm enjoying it a lot, although I'm someone who enjoys clicking on literally everything and everyone in the scene to see if you get any special interactions. AI really likes rewarding you for doing that! I'm not a fan of how much of the banter revolves around erotica, but I guess you just have to deal with that when it comes to Japanese games
Pretty major story spoilers ahead:
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it's a little bit of a different experience. i think a lot of the charm of the zero escape games is both the setting mystery (e.g. where you are, how you got there, why you're there, what's going on, etc) as well as the individual mysteries and fantastical elements that get brought up frequently and keep you wondering. staying very general, i'd say that AI is a lot more focused in its mystery, as well as really being more about the cast of characters (there's also the fact that it's not a "wake up in a mysterious location" mystery. have i said mystery enough?).
anyways, i think it's good, and probably better than ztd. get it for aiba, she's great.- CaptainMeme
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Spoiler: very spoilery response- northsidegal
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Agreed on all of this. It feels like a solid murder mystery detective-y game and stays pretty focused on that throughout, and in general it feels a lot more grounded in reality than Zero Escape. It's still sci-fi and futuristic - but the setting feels normal despite that, and being in this normal city throughout makes you focus a lot more on the characters themselves.In post 155, northsidegal wrote:it's a little bit of a different experience. i think a lot of the charm of the zero escape games is both the setting mystery (e.g. where you are, how you got there, why you're there, what's going on, etc) as well as the individual mysteries and fantastical elements that get brought up frequently and keep you wondering. staying very general, i'd say that AI is a lot more focused in its mystery, as well as really being more about the cast of characters (there's also the fact that it's not a "wake up in a mysterious location" mystery. have i said mystery enough?).
anyways, i think it's good, and probably better than ztd. get it for aiba, she's great.
I'm enjoying it a lot, but I also enjoyed ZTD so I might not be the best advice giver here- CaptainMeme
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In post 157, northsidegal wrote:Spoiler: response, random musingsSpoiler: response- CaptainMeme
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I mean I'd definitely agree that it wasn't the best in the series, but I think the order you do things in really impacts your enjoyment of it. I'd say VLR is the best and I go back and forth on ZTD and 999 as my second favourite. Gameplay wise I'd go ZTD but storywise I'd go 999.In post 158, CaptainMeme wrote:I'm enjoying it a lot, but I also enjoyed ZTD so I might not be the best advice giver here
Spoiler: Major Spoilers for all three Zero Escape games"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc., 1989- Iecerint
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You didn't like ZTD? Just because some characters were OOC, or something else?In post 154, Equinox wrote:How would y'all rank AI: The Somnium Files relative to the Zero Escape games? I want to try it, but Zero Time Dilemma burned me badly.
AI is good, but not as good as Zero Escape. For me a major negative was that there's major values dissonance with the player character having "being a pervert" as a personality quirk. On this point, it feels dated even for a Japanese game. It's worth it if you can get through it; I definitely got wrapped up in it and finished it in 2-3 days.- Equinox
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In post 162, Iecerint wrote:You didn't like ZTD? Just because some characters were OOC, or something else?- notscience
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While I defend one of the biggest problems people have with ZTD,Delta's presence throughout the entire game, I've gotta say that the story is still pretty nonsensical."Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc., 1989- Equinox
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Earlier trolling aside, what basically happened was that I played through the first two games back to back to prepare for the third game, and I had created a fairly detailed set of notes about what questions I wanted answered inIn post 162, Iecerint wrote:You didn't like ZTD? Just because some characters were OOC, or something else?Zero Time Dilemma. If it weren't for setting myself up, I might have enjoyed the game more. Looking back at my reactions in this thread, it looks like my biggest problems werealien technology seemingly introduced as deus ex machina, a cheesy plot twist that was very characteristic of Kotaro Uchikoshi, and the reveal of Delta's identity. OOC was a problem, but it paled in comparison to the spoilered bits. All of these things might have been fine with better execution, since it felt likeZero Time Dilemmawas pulled from the writer's ass rather than the thoughtful games that were the previous installments. From what I remember, though, the third game existing at all was something of a miracle.
Since I have these games on Steam (why did I do that), I might do the three games back to back someday, butZero Time Dilemmahappened to hit my general pet peeves about narratives in just the right way. I will probably never play another Uchikoshi game, though. Holy shit. - Equinox
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