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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:42 am

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In post 18, Dunnstral wrote: https://store.steampowered.com/app/9606 ... From_Eden/

This is very similar in genre but is action based rather than turn based. The game looks fun and is fun, in my experience
This is another game mentioned in this thread I really love.

I'll try and check out some other games and I'll come back here after I get a chance to play them.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:06 pm

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I have almost 100% completion on Monster Train, game of the year for me by far. Been playing some Nowhere Prophet as well, its kind of the midpoint of this genre with Darkest Dungeon's style.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:51 am

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New updated to Monster Train today, going to play that sometime after I leave work this evening. Perhaps even tomorrow.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:53 pm

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I got Monster Train. It is v. good. I'm not sure I'm playing optimally or even well, but I have won with the Hellhorned/Awoken and Umbra/Hellhorned combos.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 25, beeboy wrote:
In post 18, Dunnstral wrote: https://store.steampowered.com/app/9606 ... From_Eden/

This is very similar in genre but is action based rather than turn based. The game looks fun and is fun, in my experience
This is another game mentioned in this thread I really love.

I'll try and check out some other games and I'll come back here after I get a chance to play them.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:43 pm

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Might have played once or twice.

It has replaced Slay the Spire in what I'm obsessed with because it's so goddamn much fun. It really condenses the Slay the Spire experience, and the 5 random starting cards improves from the garbage of StS' first half of Act 1 (sorry it's almost always extremely similar).

I'm honestly trying to hold off on playing it too often because of upcoming expansion, but still beat a few Cov25s now and then. The balance is pretty tight, minus Incant.

Happily looking around for more, but others I've tried like Neoverse just aren't as interesting.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:56 am

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I'm trying to clear #24 right now

I like playing full random, it's very "roguelike". I also like trying not to reroll, but a couple of the starting common cards seem frustratingly bad, like the one Mana ascend. This game is actively patched, so am I missing something?
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:14 am

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I have been playing Rogue Adventure on the phone, good game for a phone game.

Takes a bit of work to get to the good decks, like the assassin, Necromancer, and Paladin, but, it's a free game.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 31, Isis wrote:I'm trying to clear #24 right now

I like playing full random, it's very "roguelike". I also like trying not to reroll, but a couple of the starting common cards seem frustratingly bad, like the one Mana ascend. This game is actively patched, so am I missing something?
All the core/starting deck cards are fine except the frost6 and discard one. It seems soooo bad. I hate it so much. Cant remember last time I beat the second boss starting with those
Huh, odd, I'd consider the 1 mana ascend one of the strongest starting cards. It's got truly immense utility. Not only can you do tricks like ascend back line buffers to empty floors to kill them, or ascend tanks to the rear of the floor above to render them meaningless, you can ascend your own troops which lets you break floor limits and build an uber floor. Probably the strongest starting strategy in Monster Train.

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Frost 6 card is like Frozen Lance. Your bonus is you're starting in Stygian, those are the penalty for getting to play with Stygian. Although it is better than Frozen Lance, a bit (god I hate Stygian starting cards).
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:17 am

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It's true that the deal six is almost as bad as the frost six and stygian is strong.

I haven't really tried building uberfloors with ascend, only with descend, maybe I will mess with that more. I've done the other basic uses but those seem roughly cancelled out by how often you draw it and there's just one of those uses on the board.

The card probably works better if my strategies are greedier or less greedy, I'm not sure which.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:27 am

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In post 34, Isis wrote:It's true that the deal six is almost as bad as the frost six and stygian is strong.

I haven't really tried building uberfloors with ascend, only with descend, maybe I will mess with that more. I've done the other basic uses but those seem roughly cancelled out by how often you draw it and there's just one of those uses on the board.

The card probably works better if my strategies are greedier or less greedy, I'm not sure which.
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Ascend card is also a great target for holdover or permafrost to make sure you always have it when you want it. Yes, Holdover. Not even joking on that.

Asc 24 means you've basically done everything you need to to master the game, it's just a matter of unlocking different strategies. I'm still finding new ones! There's ALMOST no starting card that I consider completely worthless (Granted Purifying Cleanse does exist)
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:43 am

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Yeah I take pretty few cards. You'd think the two untrashable curses would skew things more towards taking cards but it doesn't really.

I think a lot of my losses are from not paying attention to how the enemies vary and how to prioritize playing out the match as opposed to the deck building part

I killed my own revenge unit shooting it with fireballs because I wasn't paying attention... Lol
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:44 am

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Anybody here playing Loop Hero? It’s a pretty interesting take on the genre
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:33 am

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Monster train expansion has seemed cool so far. I despised StS's expansion faction so the new faction exceed my low expectations, it feels pretty fun.
The new stretch goal system is a little confusing and hard to navigate. How much stronger will my enemies get? In a way that would be kind of tedious to track if I researched and memorized the mechanics, setting aside that I don't know the exact mechanics anyhow like whether going over 100 matters.

It skews the game towards certain strategies, probably. Strategies that could just barely beat seraph were interesting. They probably ehjff against this new megaboss. But, it seems hard to expand a game like this, so this is probably pretty good overall.

The top floor debuff nerf is like more impactful to the core game than all the fancy expansion comment almost, so that's kind of crazy. I don't know if my playstyles is weird but usually I hate a lot of excess mama by lategame or midgame so the top floor debuff is just free
Setting aside how morsels and wicks that attack are stronger with it and it is just a gentler debuff by virtue of being delayed one turn.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:54 am

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In post 37, vonflare wrote:Anybody here playing Loop Hero? It’s a pretty interesting take on the genre
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:27 pm

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loop hero is neat, I've been increasingly interested in games where I can sit back and relax mouse only style and right now it fits well.
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