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Post Post #1 (isolation #0) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:45 am

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Hello there human that I have been yet to interact with, how goes you?

Getting someone I'm unfamiliar with as a Mason is super helpful for me because I'm bad at reading people I'm unfamiliar with (I'm bad at reading people period). But I also tend to look scummier to people unfamiliar with me also.

How familiar are you with the player list?

This is my personal familiarity with everyone:

1.
FIGHTING DREAMERS
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the worst
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SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis
hydra)
2.
NicoRobin

3.
Firebringer

4.
Iconeum

5.
Hebichan

6.
ArcAngel9

7.
Edosurist

8.
Myloninja13

9.
123456789

10.
Wraith

11.
Blind Bandits (Nosferatu / Purrcocet hydra)

12.
Aronis

13.
Ruby Red

14.
Tazaro

15.
Not Known 15

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Ausuka

17.
Whemestar

18.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:24 am

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Yeah, that's a good call. For my crumb, I'll likely hide something specifically stating that we are masons in one of my posts during day 1 and then tell you how the message tells people we're masons the next night. That way, if I die, you can just quote the thread post and tell people how I'm crumbing we're masons.

Since we don't have day chat, I give you full permission to claim I am your mason partner if you ever need to. Personally, I don't plan to claim us as masons unless it puts the town in a much needed stronger position or if I am put to L-1. If put to L-1, I will claim to be a mason without claiming you as my partner unless the town is convinced of my claim and hence wants the name of my partner.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #2) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:27 am

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As this PT is named "
The
Masonic Lodge", I'm currently assuming we are the only masons.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #3) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:41 am

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From my understanding of the rules, votes during election day are anonymous.

@Mod, please confirm if my above statement is correct <3


Assuming it is, we should almost always be voting for each other since we'd know we are voting someone who is town to either decide the lynch or decide who decides the lynch.

That said, should we both be running for election? That way, we maximise the number of townies who could decide the lynch.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #4) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:43 am

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"You will do so secretly"

Okay the question I just asked the mod is redundant.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #5) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:49 am

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@mod, a postal vote essentially acts as a sneaky second vote that you can potentially be punished for, correct?


If so, I think it's probably best we both avoid postal votes if we are both standing as candidates.

Another point for us both running as candidates is that we get PTs with whoever joins our campaign. This means that, at the end of each night, we can share any information given to us by the people in our PT to have a solid collection of people's more private reads and thoughts on the game. Obviously, we won't reveal to our party members that this is what is going on.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:57 am

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With both of us running that also means that coalitions are less of a problem. Either because, from our perspective, there's definitely more town influence in them OR we ARE the coalition :3


I mean, I'm not sure if you like the idea of both of us running for president. But I really do. The only real drawback I can see is that it perhaps increases the chance we are killed hence wasting our mason potential. But as long as we don't come across as too much of a threat to the mafia, we should be fine. For example, we could pin our lynch decision of a specific person advising us so it looks like they are the threat.

Personally, I'm going to run a campaign of 'fun' so that I'm not taken too seriously.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:01 am

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Another thing to note: there's probably a vig in the game. The mod has been pluralising night kill
s
too much for the only night kill to just be the mafia's night kill.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:37 am

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My scum hunting is below average. However, being elected isn't about reads. Being elected is about looking town. Your party members and the rest of the thread can advise you on who to kill.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:41 am

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@Mod, is the crier ability also anonymous or do people always know who it came from?
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Post Post #15 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:13 am

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Cool. So I guess the last thing we probably need to discuss is
when
we start our candidacy. I think it would look kinda odd if we both did it at the same time. Then there's the question of if we are to do the theatre of having us join a party first and then switch to making our own party to disguise our intention of always wanting to lead a party (which we can only do on the first day).
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Post Post #17 (isolation #11) » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:53 am

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Yeah I’m down for that
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Post Post #18 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:41 am

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Our plan is totally working here :lol:

To be fair though, I don't think you making a party would have helped at all. Your play definitely rubs a few people the wrong way.

As for my party, I think more people townread me now, and with duckie seeming to have had a controversial term, I get the feeling I might start seeing some people willing to join me. Especially once I start properly campaigning.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:54 am

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In 145 WhemeStar wrote:
"Mutant ill join your party if you endorse me for pres.

I think your town and I want to make a party that is a pure
masonry
.
"
I think Wheme might be a role cop. He was quick to town read me for seemingly no reason and that would certainly explain it. Based on this, I'm fairly certain Wheme is town because scum wouldn't crumb that to me.

Other quotes of his that make me think he is a role cop:

"Okay i have a 100% read on ircher so i can find out if hes town or scum later on"

"Mutant endorse me and I’ll join ur party"

To me on rejecting the above offer:
"Sigh way to be anti town you townie"

"Im claming masons with mylo" - Fake claim, but the idea of masonry is in his head.

"
In post 250, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 249, WhemeStar wrote:
Im claming masons with mylo

Is this a joke?

Because I don't see why you'd randomly claim that...

In post 249, WhemeStar wrote:Im claming masons with myloIs this a joke? Because I don't see why you'd randomly claim that...

SO YOU GUYS JOIN MY ALL TOWN PARTY"

"Mutant please disband your party and jion mine your obvious town."

It wasn't until I said this to him:
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Yeah, I get it. Now shut up and go away.
I'm sticking to my party. If nothing else, I need the PT to document my thoughts and I'm using it to work stuff out about the districts."
That he finally stopped these sorts of posts. Aka, he finally understood that I understand the crumb.



I really hope I'm right about this or this will look stupid post game :P (stop judging me mod).
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Post Post #20 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:01 am

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My crumbs to prove yourself as my mason partner:

(weak):
In 150, mutantdevle wrote:
"
In post 145, WhemeStar wrote:
Mutant ill join your party if you endorse me for pres.

I think your town and I want to make a party that is a pure masonry.

Sure, you can be temporary president for days 90 to 96. Then on day 97 you gotta endorse me back. Sound good?"
In Wheme's post, the characters 90 to 96 (without spaces) is the word masonry. The 97th character is the full stop (period).

(strong):
In 969, mutantdevle wrote:
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In post 966, Aronis wrote:
because I'm pretty obvious town

No

In post 968, ofrhz wrote:
In post 966, Aronis wrote:
In post 963, the worst wrote:
do you think you are?

I'd say no, because I'm pretty obvious town, but you're also pretty terrible at reading people, so I might say yes cause of that

I kinda want to TR aronis based on the reasoning of "too much of a dick to be scum"

Sam
e. They're not obvious town but I don't think their successive wild tinfoil comes from town. e"

In 970, mutantdevle wrote:
"EBWOP: comes from scum*

and ignore the e."

These posts are about you. The bolded spells "mason" backwards. "ignore the e" in the next post means remove the e on the word same so it's mason and not emason. The extra e on the end of the first message is an intentional mistake (comes from town/scum is not).
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Post Post #22 (isolation #15) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:38 am

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Also, I low key think there's a good chance that Ruby Red and FD aka the worst are both scum.

As scum, I would have conjured the same plan as I did with you here. I would always have made my own party and I would have told my teammates to do so also. I feel like others would have the same tactic to increase scum's influence over the lynch. Scum controlling the lynch either allows them to direct it away from scum or get town cred for lynching a partner. FD and Ruby both strike me as players that would accept such an idea.

Think about it, what are the chances scum decided not to run for election at all? I'm town. Wheme is probably town given the evidence he is a role cop. Not Known seems town to me given his attempt to restrict how we vote. In my mind, at least 1, if not both, of Ruby and FD are scum OR scum have legit decided not to run for election.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #16) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:42 am

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What's your opinion on Edosurist flipping town?

Edosurist!town probably means they didn't lie about not voting. This means we now have 2 unaccounted for votes.

Do you think we should still be lynching in that original pool of Hebichan, Taz and myloninja?
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Post Post #25 (isolation #17) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:23 am

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I agree with your view on FD and how the worst was awkward about lynching Edo. If he mentions something along the lines of "I told you so" tomorrow then that will just confirm it to me. Honestly, I feel like just smiting that slot down if I get elected but that's going to go horribly wrong if we're wrong on this.

I should also mention my reply to that questionnaire that was sent. As an answer to one of my questions, I asked them to crumb their identity by calling me "mutantdevel" in the thread. In return for this, I have offered to share with them the information that I have. If they deliver on their side of my deal, I will tell them that I am a mason with someone and that we think Wheme is a role cop. I will keep your identity secret so that if they are actually a scum PR then you'll know who to lynch.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:26 am

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In post 2, Aronis wrote:I'm pretty unfamiliar with most of the player list tbh. I only play mafia on rare occasions. I know who some of the people are, but I don't know much about anyone's mafia playstyle.

If I see a good opportunity I might try to subtly crumb our partnership? It's probably best if we have something in place in case one of us dies unexpectedly.
Did you manage to crumb our partnership subtly anywhere?

Don't force it if you haven't. I think my own crumb and behaviour is enough to make people believe that I am your mason partner should you die before me.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:11 am

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Just in case you didn't pick up on it, Skitter is the person who sends the night questions.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:12 am

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Can I name you as my mason partner to them (only)? I trust them tbh.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:22 pm

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Honestly I agree with you that the lynch pool shouldn’t have been on Hebichan / Tazaro. I didn’t really want it on Wheme either give my belief of him. The town’s lynch pool is way too small.

That said, I’m glad Taz is dead considering he was a vig. I think we may have literally dodged a bullet by lynching him.

I’m also doubting my read on Wheme. I hope he’s just a role cop effectively avoiding a night kill but I don’t think he was ever at risk of that which gives me doubts.

I’m really going to push the avoidance of lynching Wheme and Hebichan tomorrow. I think we need to look towards the coasters.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:14 pm

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Taz was not townie at all. I was put in a position of choosing between him and Wheme and with my current knowledge I think I chose correctly. Taz is not someone I have confidence in choosing who to die. Vig's are the most common PR to cause the town to lose and given Taz decided to shoot someone who we now know to be confirmed town, I'd say he's better off dead.

Could you please answer my post 28?
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Post Post #34 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:09 am

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Having a tin foil theory on the worst and ruby red both being scum based on my own decisions as scum is completely different from pulling the trigger. I doubt we'd be able to control Taz in any way, he has demonstrated several times that he was unwilling to cooperate.

And I'm not breaking the promises of my presidency. By sticking to what I say I'll do instead of dictating who I want to kill makes me reelectable. The more often I am elected, the more control I have over things such as putting lynches onto Taz instead of Wheme. Furthermore, it allows me to prevent lynches in those of us we know mechanically as town.

Currently, that block is me, you, Skitter, the worst, Ausuka, Wheme and maybe 123456789 now but he's being a bit iffy about why he claimed roleblocked.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:26 pm

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Ircher claims he roleblocked firebringer.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:59 am

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Give us cookies!

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Post Post #39 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:00 am

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This game isn't going so good so far. Scum aren't dying. I'd say that we might have to claim soon but I don't think either of us are in the lynch pool so I don't see how that would be helpful :/
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Post Post #41 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:37 am

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Okay so I have a plan for tomorrow over a little thing.

First of all, I want to convince ofrhz to leave my party so that it's just myself and skitter.
Next, I will ask Wheme to join my party - possibly taking him up on the offer to endorse him as party leader.
If I do make him the leader, I will still make it known that I'm running for president as well.
I will make it clear that I don't want anyone else joining my party.

That gives us 3 confirmed towns in one private topic.

I can invite you too if you want? So that the 4 of us are there. Outside of us 4, I can't trust anyone else with 100% confidence.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:41 am

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I think that the scum are:

ofrhz
Wh4t
Ankamius
Invisibility

I feel like NK15 was obvious town tbh so I'm low key annoyed that he ended up being the lynch instead of invisibility.

If I'm not killed tonight, I'm going to heavily push these 4. They all have concerning associations with each other and there are solid reasons to town read everyone else.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:52 am

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What's been going on in Wheme's party PT btw?

Is there any important information I should know (eg, if Wheme has given any details about his role)? I'd also like any information about the wraith slot?
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Post Post #45 (isolation #30) » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:33 am

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I have a plan for tomorrow. I want to ask ofrhz to leave my party so that it's just myself and skitter in the party PT. Then, I want to convince Wheme to join the party - possibly offering him party leadership (if I do endorse him as party leader, I'll make it clear that I am also still running for the presidency). From there, I want to force him to claim to us before we return the favour. That allows us to gain confidence in Wheme making 3 confirmed townies in a party PT. I'll also make it clear to everyone else that joining our party is a scum claim. If anyone does then we'll force them to claim and lynch them if the information gets out.

Do you want me to invite you to the party PT during the next day or not (probably after Wheme has joined)?
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Post Post #47 (isolation #31) » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:35 pm

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Okay, fair enough. I probably won’t invite you to it then just in case the mafia get suspicious of what the 4 of us could possibly be doing in 1 party. It’ll still look odd with 3, but less so.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #32) » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:51 pm

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Take control.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #33) » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:10 pm

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Okay, so I want to mass claim tomorrow.

First of all, I'll make a post labelling both myself and you as mason partners. Next, I'll reveal skitter as the person behind the opinion poll before giving my reads on everyone else.

From there, I'll ask everyone to immediately vote me into power. After that, I'll make everyone claim 1 by 1 with the threat of lynching --> starting with the people I find most scummy to least scummy.

If I die tonight, I want either you or skitter to do this in my place. You talk about it with skitter by joining my party PT (which he'd automatically be leader for).

In fact, since we're mass claiming, I want you to join my party PT anyway. They'll know why at that point so you may as well.

Sound good?
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