Gerrymandering Shadow Government Democracy Mafia Mod Topic

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voter fraud stuff seems like a funny mechanic

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the (kind of) reverse jester is pretty funny. presumably that's something he needs to happen sooner rather than later lol

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did scum get poll results as they came in or at the end of the night?

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what type of games get played in turns out im an idiot lol

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surely there were better district names he could have come up with

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best mechanic of the game is being able to posthumously rename a district bah tbh

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why

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need to get around dns filter to view those at work and can't be bothered

and my phone is like 50cm away from me atm

should i reach over to click those links?

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i live in a good country so i dont know much about gerrymandering

what are the arguments for it over pure democratic vote?

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if it's such a bad thing with so many issues that are that obvious, what are the arguments for it?

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i suppose i could google it but effort

plus i don't really care beyond mild interest in knowing why it exists if it's so apparently bad

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i can understand -some- argument for an electoral college system existing (even if outdated), but i don't understand the gerrymandering part

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i wonder why ausuka claimed 2-shot

most people i know would have claimed 1-shot i think - or not claimed their actual role if they even claimed at all

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how obnoxious

who would use a rainbow text generator, large font and comic sans text to write something in a mafia game?

that is certainly something i would never do

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tbh i am surprised people think claiming third party as scum is a good idea

you always lynch third party claims sooner rather than later because (1) they have no incentive to help town unless it suits them (it may now, it may not later), and (2) scum fake-claim third party a lot (when they're in trouble)

so it strikes me as odd when i see scum do it because it's basically an "ive given up" last resort hail mary

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i can't even remember the last time i saw claiming third party work out for scum. i think ive seen it work once or twice ever

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gotta admit some comments _are_ more amusing with spoilers

Wait, why is Aronis more likely to be president than the very likely town president Whemestar?

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wouldnt fault you for modkilling him

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most would say he deserves it

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havent been following

has anyone believed whemestar's third party claim in this game?

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No, I mean the hebi fakeclaim

nah my question about wheme's claim was just a general question unrelated to #75

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as in wheme had claimed it earlier, no one believed him?

hebi claims 3p, some people buy it

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questionable choice of claim!

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i think i'd go with the lyncher route

"I HAVE TO LYNCH HEBI THEN I WIN"

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oh yeah double lynch claim might work

or skipping night phase

or something like that

but then you might have town questioning "why would a third party get to do that and what's their actual win con?"

because being able to double lynch before exiting the game seems kind of pointless and if they dont exit the game then uh... theyre just a third party who has no incentive to help either faction...

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some form of "lyncher with special condition" fits a third party even if it isnt as "protown" sounding

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oh wait, you meant without claiming third party, right?

in that case, yeah for sure

but once he's claimed third party (lol) it's not so great an idea

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i wonder if ruby buses on becoming president

probably

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realistically, it doesnt earn any additional town credit and isn't a necessity

but there may be a fear that not busing will make him look bad so he'll do it for that reason

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and well some people will probably only look at it at a surface level ("he lynched scum so he's town!" or "he didn't lynch hebi and hebi was scum so he's scum!") so it's generally a good thing

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can mutantdevle be mod killed for invoking democracy in a game where democracy is apparently dead?

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i just... i really have an issue with this blatant violation of the rules by mutant...

1. Democracy is dead and I killed it.

11. Death is final. But you can have a contentless bah post when you do die.

My alignment hardly matters when I’m putting the lynch to a democracy

am i crazy for thinking this deserves a mod kill?

at least mod kill democracy if nothing else

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lol tazaro

honestly dont know if i could make myself look worse than he does if i tried

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he has a talent, to say the least

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not one i envy, but a talent none the less

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l o l

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it is hilarious how few people want to lynch hebi

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hey haven't been paying attention if it's already been covered but would "x is town" (where x is a different player) count as an objective statement for the purposes of the lie detector?

"i think x is town" would be the subjective variant

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and if not, would your answer change if it was a scum player who said it (eg "x is not part of the mafia team") is pretty objective coming from scum)

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It annoys me how many times I have to say this. We know Hebi is third party. We checked their claim with an attempted lynch yesterday. Third party is not mafia. Our goal is to lynch mafia.

what did i miss

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im slightly interested in why people think that polling ability comes from town

i guess it's null in a vacuum in terms of the ability itself, but those questions look scum-motivated

at the very least, i would never have trusted it enough to give any honest information

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havent really been following this game

has anything exciting happened today or all just boring same ol'?

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skimming a bit. town lacks charisma here

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well that and correct reads but mostly nobody is leading them. maybe partly to do with the setup and them not having as much agency as usual

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been meaning to ask, what theme do you use? because your choice of colour for text makes it virtually unreadable on mafsilver so i don't read anything you write in the game thread

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i mean, it's not that i can't read it altogether but it's straining on the eyes and i was wondering if that was intentional

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like a "fuck the people" message to go along with the theme of your game

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i say that as someone who ironically uses maftiger on at least one hydra account

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i can read the teal here

in game it's still cancer

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what are the betting odds on whether or not whemestar eventually wins?

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hebi's on the ball with that jjh scum read

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Wtf nobody voted while I was sleeping

they didn't want to wske you up. it was very thoughtful of them

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Would have been better if you didn't fakeclaim at all though

with no bad, there can be no good

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i just wanted to sound wise tbh

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good choice

then they just need to publicly ask who was sending them the protown surveys and add them too

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then they have a four player masonry

how could this possibly go wrong?

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tbh i cant see a flaw in that plan

maybe they should invite third party hebi because while shes not town, shes confirmed not scum either

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is aronis town reading any scum? if so, he should strongly consider making his own competing all town party

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oh wait, i technically lose this game if town loses, don't i?

single tear

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i tried my best but my best wasnt good enough

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gotta wait for skitter to die or whemestar to exit the game before we can have a true conftown zombie party

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i have faith in myloninja carrying town to a win

he just needs to start picking better district names and we're all set

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his scum reads aren't _that_ bad

how is hebi even still alive lol

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obviously gerrymandering is better than a shitty democratic system duh

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tbh ive started just saying im a jehovahs witness so i can avoid compulsory voting

on and off again in case i feel like voting

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also it means i get to quote bible passages and yell "blasphemy" every time i get a failure to vote notice

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i want this game to end so that if anyone asks for a recent example of my town meta i can point to this

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granted, it's replace-in meta but still...