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Post Post #634 (isolation #600) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:45 am

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"Look at all these peasants trying to guess what the flip is going to be? I said 4 hours, but little do they know, I'm going to pretend I fell asleep after that."
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Post Post #636 (isolation #601) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:46 am

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"Sorry guys, I tired myself out playing with my daughter so I'll do the flip tomorrow morning."

"Sorry guys, woke up late and have a busy day at work. I'll do the flip when I get home tonight."

I see it already.

You have no surprises left for me.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #602) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:02 pm

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Actually. That... wouldn't surprise me at all...

That reminds me, I tried to stress the importance of Nacho not telling you when the game would start but telling me... I think he might not think I'm deadly serious about that.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #603) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:26 pm

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Other than maybe Rider, I don't really have a scum read on Shielder.

I guess that *could* be explained IF Caster/Shielder are both town and, say, Ruler is scum.

Then scum can just do whatever they want with their votes today basically.

But uh... weird.

It just makes me think I'm fucking up really badly somewhere in my reads.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #604) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:11 pm

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I mean theoretically it means that Shielder is scum and scum didn't want to bus? But I don't see that as likely. So uh... weird.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #605) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:13 pm

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Yes, that was indeed a single thought spaced out over about 45 minutes. I think, I work, I go back to the same thought and finish it 45 minutes later.

Standard day.
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Post Post #642 (isolation #606) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:23 pm

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Shielder v2's play is just so ass-backwards. Still seems town though. I'll keep that as my final verdict.
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Post Post #643 (isolation #607) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:24 pm

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I just don't really know what it means about the game that the only player I think *might* be scum on the Shielder wagon is Rider.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Post Post #644 (isolation #608) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:51 pm

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Beast is probably the most contentious outside of Rider but currently think town.
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Post Post #645 (isolation #609) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:08 pm

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WHERE'S MY FLIP!?
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Post Post #647 (isolation #610) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:09 pm

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So uh, I'm thinking of attempting to use my role offensively tonight.

I ideally want to catch a scum investigative role.

But really this feels like kind of a shot in the dark.

So, uh...

I guess wish me luck?
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Post Post #648 (isolation #611) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:10 pm

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IT'S BEEN ABOUT 4 HOURS.
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Post Post #650 (isolation #612) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:10 pm

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"before night ends~"

"BEFORE NIGHT ENDS ABOUT" IS NOT GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT.
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Post Post #651 (isolation #613) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:12 pm

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Actually if this night ends on Monday due to the time it takes to replace whatshisface, that might be ideal for me. I can make Mondays MAFIA MONDAY now.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #614) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:13 pm

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Well Sunday night your time.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #615) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:20 pm

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I've set my alarm for odd times so I could wake up and hammer someone if necessary.

Probably a good sign I was town if I ever did that.

Though the phrase "mafia time transcends all known time zones" just makes me remember that time I tried to co-ordinate a quickhammer with Nacho. And failed miserably.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #616) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:21 pm

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"WE'LL DO IT WHEN THE WORLD CLOCK HITS THIS TIME"

Perfectly executed...

Only the wagon was L-3 at the time.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #617) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:34 pm

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Well, at least I'm technically 3/3 now if we only count my reads before the flip and not my abysmal initial reads.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #618) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:54 pm

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Wait a sec, I feel cheated and lied to. THERE WERE TWO FLAVOUR POSTS BEFORE.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #619) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:05 pm

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Wait, I'm being called a sadist by moderators who kept us in suspense for 4 hours? TBH they're probably all numb to the pain after that anyway.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #620) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:14 pm

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~4 hours felt a lot like 4 hours to me.

Also, thanks.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #621) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:21 pm

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I thought we already established that when I talked about trying to quick-hammer someone at L-3 with Nacho.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #622) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:23 pm

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Also you know how you Americans have like 'yards' instead of metres, and they're like almost a metre but not quite. I was counting it like that.
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Post Post #669 (isolation #623) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:58 pm

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Have they considered getting their own yards?
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Post Post #670 (isolation #624) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:59 pm

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Why do they care about yours?
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Post Post #671 (isolation #625) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:16 pm

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I guess if I happen to die tonight, don't spoil me!
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Post Post #672 (isolation #626) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:43 pm

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Is there a reason you don't have like a list of alive/dead (with flips) in the OP (or anywhere on page one really)?
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Post Post #674 (isolation #627) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:41 pm

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I mean, I don't personally care because I'm already in the game. But if I were looking to replace into a game, I'd want easy access to in-game events rather than having to look trawl through the mod's ISO lol.

I've looked at games I'd otherwise consider replacing into and just said "nah" because I couldn't be bothered doing that. Probably there aren't a whole lot of people like me though, so maybe it's not a big issue.
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Post Post #675 (isolation #628) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:43 pm

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I also hate when moderators only partially update their game. Like, the game's over, but the title of the thread is like D3 and and they stopped updating flips D2.

That stuff annoys me to no end.
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Post Post #676 (isolation #629) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:44 pm

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If you do something like that, you should lose your ability to moderate games for like 10 years so you can reflect on your actions.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #630) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:44 pm

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Maybe 10 is a bit extreme, but I think we can all agree that deserves at least a 5-year ban from moderating.
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Post Post #678 (isolation #631) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:35 pm

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I assume I still have at least 24 hours from whenever you announce the replacement before I have to give a crap about submitting a night action, right?
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Post Post #680 (isolation #632) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:25 pm

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I can't wait for Cabd to write "HAHA JUST KIDDING GUYS I FOUND A REPLACEMENT 23 HOURS AGO! YOU HAVE 1 HOUR TO SUBMIT YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS!" at about 4am my time.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #633) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:29 pm

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I forgot to read into the flavour of the flips yesterday, hmm. I should do that now.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #634) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:31 pm

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"But I know I don't want any of these goody two shoes to get what they want: none of this friendship persevering through all trials!"

Definitely a town-driven wagon then.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #635) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:33 pm

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"Could a Grail be in its cups?"

I wonder if anyone but me is actually reading the flavour. All your wit would have gone to waste if I wasn't gaming it.
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Post Post #685 (isolation #636) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:36 pm

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TIN FOIL THEORY: The reason for the deadline extension was because Ruler is a super-important scum power role.

:thinking:

It makes perfect sense.

There's no other reason I can think of that you'd do that.........
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Post Post #686 (isolation #637) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:57 pm

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I suppose I should submit a temporary action on 1: ruler or 2: rider

Original Roll String: 1d2
1 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1
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Post Post #687 (isolation #638) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:57 pm

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Self-Modification: Rider


The dice lords have spoken.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #639) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:12 pm

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No acknowledgement of receipt of action.

-1 moderation point.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #640) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:13 am

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TBH that night action is really just a shot in the dark.

I think scum do have an investigative role but NFI who it is.

So I'll take a stab and if it works out, it works out. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #641) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:16 am

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I don't think I live until night four anyway? So blowing my load on the 2-shot investigative plus the modified roleblock seems the way to go.

Even though I think there's a non-zero chance I'm dead tonight anyway.

For some reason, I keep thinking I'm the best kill in the current game state even though killing the 'obvtown' players makes more sense?

I just think I'm more likely to find and kill scum if I actually get involved enough to care about it, but I don't know if scum have the same assessment of me being dangerous.

I guess we'll find out.

Personally I'd probably kill someone like Avenger or Alter Ego in this game state but it depends on how likely scum think it is that (a) I'm even a viable wagon and (b) whether anyone else in the game actually scares them.

Of course, I could be waaaaaaaaaaay off in my scum pool but eh, deal with that if it comes to it.
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Post Post #691 (isolation #642) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:18 am

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If Caster is town, Avenger and Alter Ego are the town players least likely to in-fight and MAY be up in the air about whether to vote for Caster.

They'll want to let Berserker run the show tomorrow and they'll silently egg it on from the sidelines in that case.
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Post Post #693 (isolation #643) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:34 pm

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Was going through some old pictures I have on my computer.

I'm not a parent but I had to do a lot of babysitting when I was younger. My youngest brother is about 17 years younger than I am and I had to take him places and look after him a lot when he was really young.

For some reason, I have lots of pictures of him when he fell asleep on the train, though most of them are pretty grainy due to shit phone.

Spoiler:
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I don't remember how old he was. Think he may have been around 2 when those were taken. And yes, he's asleep in that last one too, with half his body off the seat and one leg up.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #644) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:54 pm

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5 minutes to the deadline, Cabd!

AM I DEAD?
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Post Post #697 (isolation #645) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:00 pm

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Hmmmmmmm. Have you written the flavour for the night phase yet?

If I die, I expect a 10,000-word essay detailing my incredible feats.

I don't want to hear about how I went down without a fight!
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Post Post #699 (isolation #646) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:05 pm

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Oh well, was a shot in the dark anyway. Guess that means I lived!
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Post Post #700 (isolation #647) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:06 pm

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The dice lords have failed me, basically.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #648) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:10 pm

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Interesting. I guess I'll just wait to see who says what about it.
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Post Post #703 (isolation #649) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:11 pm

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Er, on second thought, I should have realised Rider saying the thingo about flavour matching perfectly meant uh... Rider was not an investigative role.

Oh well, don't really care all that much rofl.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #650) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:13 pm

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So, predicting Caster gets _a_ wagon to some degree today. Berserker obviously, maybe also Lancer/Saber and uh... I dunno where Avenger and Assassin are at with reads.

Not sure.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #651) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:16 pm

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Hmmmm, what result would I have gotten if I was roleblocked?
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Post Post #706 (isolation #652) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:16 pm

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In post 698, penguin_alien wrote:Rider received no investigative results.
Would I still have gotten this if I was roleblocked or would I have gotten no result?
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Post Post #708 (isolation #653) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:31 pm

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I am truly interested to know where Berserker is going with this.

She clearly knows something about what I did, but she's hoping I reveal the part that she doesn't know lol.

I don't enjoy playing games like that with people though, so that's unfortunate for her.

Now I get to watch and see where she goes with this.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #654) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:34 pm

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Maybe she just knows I used something called "self-modification" and targeted Rider rofl.

That would be pretty hilarious, because trying to figure out what "self-modification" does with no context seems impossible.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #655) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:10 pm

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If it turns out that she thinks she has a false positive because of the name "self-modification" then I'm going to laugh.
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Post Post #711 (isolation #656) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:45 pm

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Does it count as playing against my win condition if I'm pretty sure I could just claim and clear up the mess but I don't want to?

She doesn't have any guilty on me, that's easy to tell.

She knows _something_ about what I did last night but she doesn't know the full story, and if she's saying it suggests I'm scum then I'm just left to assume she knows I used an ability called "self-modification" on Rider and that since she can't figure out what that means she is just assuming it's a scum ability?

But that's stupid, because the ability name is flavour. So uh... I guess she just is making really silly guesses about what it did?
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Post Post #712 (isolation #657) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:58 pm

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Er, btw, did you actually consider anything I wrote to be a personal attack?

I suppose I said people are dumb if they believe the "guilty" but I stand by that and I don't really think that's a personal attack?

Like what other words would you use to describe that?
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Post Post #713 (isolation #658) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:00 pm

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Oh, I mentioned Berserker's stupidity around the "guilty" too.

I mean, I suppose I should be clear when I say that, I don't care what level of intelligence you think you have or whether or not you're a rocket surgeon, if you say dumb shit in a mafia game, I'm going to call it dumb shit. Nothing I say in a mafia game is a reflection of what I think of the person outside of the game, just a reflection of their ability to play mafia.
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Post Post #714 (isolation #659) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:54 pm

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What are the odds that scum didn't submit a kill?

Either because they forgot or weren't active enough to do it.

:thinking:

Probably low.

There's probably a different reason for that being missing.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #660) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:06 pm

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Caster criticising me for not caring about my wagon after basically giving up when Assassin called him scum yesterday is legitimately hilarious to me.

I wonder if Caster even realises the irony there.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #661) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:10 pm

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In post 2039, Servant Caster wrote:
In post 2037, Servant Assassin wrote:Sorry. I recognize that an effort was made, I just still don't really think you're town. Please don't take it personally.
Shrug. I just think you suck, mostly. I should be an easy read here.
In post 2042, Servant Caster wrote:I've been bleeding town all over the thread since day 0. It's literally insane that I'm even a serious wagon. I have no logical point that will satisfy you.
In post 2045, Servant Caster wrote:I've given you plenty. It is not my fault if you can't see it.
In post 2048, Servant Caster wrote:I don't really want to suffer another day of this though.
In post 2050, Servant Caster wrote:
In post 2049, Servant Assassin wrote:
Servant Caster wrote:I don't really want to suffer another day of this though.
You asking to die or what? I don't understand this.
I don't know. If theres no chance of changing minds I am tempted to, although I guess I should consider whether I might be able to do something useful at night.
Is this the same person whining about me not trying to derail my wagon?
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Post Post #717 (isolation #662) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:49 pm

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Oh yeah, this thread exists...
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Post Post #718 (isolation #663) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:50 pm

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I've gotten away with exactly zero votes so far in this game...
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Post Post #720 (isolation #664) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:46 pm

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Thinking of me as a tree stump in this game is probably good. Though I really did intend to do stuff today, just... didn't get around to it.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #665) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:47 pm

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Literally all I've done today is read Saber and Ruler ISOs. *sigh*
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Post Post #722 (isolation #666) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:56 pm

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I suppose I should use the night phase to figure out whether I still think Ruler is town and then go from there.
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Post Post #723 (isolation #667) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:45 pm

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You know, if I were scum and saw town-Beast's post in thread, I'd assume Beast has an entirely harmless role.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #668) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:46 pm

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This is why I like sticking to half-truths and unspoken lies.

If you're too direct, you make your goals obvious.
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Post Post #725 (isolation #669) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:49 pm

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Oh. Interesting though. If Beast is town, that ability would partially explain the 180 on Shielder after Shielder full-claimed with an oddly conflicting Noble Phantasm
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Post Post #726 (isolation #670) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:52 pm

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I'm not going to be terribly surprised if it turns out that the scum team is just Lancer/Ruler.

Ruler did do a lot of things that I think are odd for scum though.

I actually do intend to do reading at some point to recheck my thoughts here.

Really....

Honestly...
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Post Post #727 (isolation #671) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:58 pm

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I don't think it's impossible for Ruler to be scum or anything, but there are certain things that I think Ruler v2 did that are more likely to come from town than scum.

For example, I do still hold to the theory that alt-hunting and making guesses about someone's actions / alignment based on what you _think_ you know of who they are is more a town thing than a scum thing. This isn't like a 100% town tell though, and scum could very easily do this if they thought it landed them some sort of advantage, but uh... I think the way Ruler went about that sort of thing seems more likely to come from town.

I do also still really like this reaction:

Ruler: "Also fuck off calling me dead weight as scum."
Assassin: "did i hurt baby's feelings"
Ruler: "Yes, baby is good scum."
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Post Post #728 (isolation #672) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:00 am

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There are some very, very weak positive interactions that look OKish between Ruler/Archer.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #673) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:02 am

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"AE can I get your thoughts on the eod movement onto Assassin (haven't read how that developed yet either)."

Why Alter Ego? Because he thought he had figured out who Alter Ego is and probably valued that opinion, I guess? I'm trying to think about why scum-Ruler here singles out Alter Ego if he isn't even angling for a scum read on Alter Ego.
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Post Post #730 (isolation #674) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:05 am

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"I would have given Archer a ton of points if they stuck to Avenger"

This is an example of an incredibly weak positive interaction. It's just a weird way to mention a buddy, where you're not even calling his actions town, just saying he would have seemed town if he hadn't done something.

It's incredibly weak because I guess scum could still do this, I just don't see like... the goal of it, I guess? I think maybe it's because I think "if I were scum, I'd wanna come down with a more concrete conclusion about it" sort of thing, maybe? But I am increasingly aware that I need to remember people don't think like me.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #675) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:06 am

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"Fairly sure I know who Moon is though and I think highly of their scum game + unpredictability as either alignment."

I wonder how accurate his guess was.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #676) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:07 am

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On that note, I should mention that the person I thought Assassin was is probably not who Assassin is. I originally thought "oh, he knows who this Prism dude is, I'll go check out Prism games for someone who posts in all lowercase and see if I get any matches" and then I found some other dude who did that and thought "ok fits".

Now I'm guessing Assassin is just another retiree coming back into the work force.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #677) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:08 am

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And that Assassin was trying to IMITATE me.

And that Alter Ego guessed that Assassin was me based on that imitation!!
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Post Post #734 (isolation #678) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:12 am

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Oh, I should mention that even independent of the whole lover stuff at the end of yesterday, I had a reason to assume Saber was not scum with caster:

Saber kept calling me Moon Caster...

It suggests a lack of consciousness of there being a "Caster" and a "Moon Cancer" in two separate slots in this game, basically.

(This is ignoring other interactions which made them seem unlikely to be scum together too, I just thought that was an interesting thing that happened though.)

On a related note,

Ruler: "I keep confusing this slot with saber tbh and don't have a strong impression of them."

This happened to me, too - I kept confusing Lancer / Saber (and I literally almost just wrote "Laber and Sancer"). It's weaker than the mix-up Saber was doing, but I kind of believe this and I believe it _could_ come from someone who's less conscious of them.

That said, if Lancer and Saber are both scum, it means very little. And I suspect that's the case. Ergo, incredibly weak positive association.
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Post Post #735 (isolation #679) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:16 am

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Overall it's not a strong enough town read that I'm going to be shocked if it is incorrect, but I do want to think about the reasons I went wrong if Ruler is actually scum.

The problem I have is that if Ruler is town, then uh...

OK, Lancer's scum. But who else?

If I assume Alter Ego's read on Rider isn't faulty, then uh... what? Beast is left?

Eh..................
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Post Post #736 (isolation #680) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:17 am

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Based on game state it just makes sense that it's Lancer-Ruler.
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Post Post #737 (isolation #681) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:17 am

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Based on my personal read of Ruler's ISO, I think he's more likely town than not.
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Post Post #738 (isolation #682) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:18 am

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I guess the one big criticism I have of Ruler v2 is that when D1 actually started, he did very little (or really nothing) in the way of scum hunting and talked more about the whole "who voted who in the master phase" stuff.

Which could have just been an attempt at #Busywork
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Post Post #739 (isolation #683) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:25 am

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I think I just want to get rid of Lancer tomorrow and then think about whether or not Ruler makes the most sense as the final scum after that.

Lucky for me, though... I have a role that actually alleviates the need for me to think about that if we eliminate scum tomorrow!

On that note, I should probably check..................................



How does roleblocking interact with Faceless Moon?

Scenario A: "Roleblocker A" targets "Player B" N1. I target "Roleblocker A" N2 and "Roleblocker A" targets me N2. Am I roleblocked or does my action apply before "Roleblocker A"?
Scenario B: "Roleblocker A" targets me N1. I target "Roleblocker A" N2 and "Roleblocker A" targets player B N2. What the fuck happens here? Because I think I just created a a time paradox.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #684) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:57 am

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I guess realistically it doesn't matter if Ruler is scum or not since uh... unless there's scum hiding in what's essentially a town bloc, the game is kind of on autopilot mode atm
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Post Post #741 (isolation #685) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:57 am

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I still wanna get that read correct or figure out why I didn't.
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Post Post #743 (isolation #686) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:59 am

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That answer would make sense if it was in English, I'm sure.
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Post Post #744 (isolation #687) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:59 am

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Is a taunt a roleblock?
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Post Post #745 (isolation #688) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:00 am

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Oh, Faceless Moon is a taunt?
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Post Post #746 (isolation #689) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:01 am

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Oh, I see, that was your explanation for the time paradox. In reality, I've already used the taunt, I just don't know it yet... Or something.
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Post Post #749 (isolation #690) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:22 am

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Wait, I can multi-action? Didn't even occur to me that I could.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #691) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:28 am

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Town have a factional night kill!? Why haven't we been using it?
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Post Post #757 (isolation #692) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:32 am

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OK, well anyway...

If a kill goes through tonight and scum dies tomorrow, then Faceless Moon is like the ultimate roleblocking ability. Either I prevent a kill (because they're forced to re-kill the same target) or a kill goes through and my target is basically confirmed town, barring something like ascetic.

I know though that Rider isn't ascetic (or if Rider does have an ascetic ability, he didn't use it N1).

I guess the proper course of action is to confirm I can action Ruler here, I guess? Assuming we take out Lancer tomorrow.

Self-Modification: Ruler


May as well submit this tentatively.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #693) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:33 am

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I'm guessing immune to roleblocks and redirects doesn't apply to the "taunt" category?

Also, 750 isn't even that much tbh.

I took a break for like an entire day phase. This could be well over 1000 by now.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #694) » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:40 am

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My sleeping pattern is so screwed up at the moment. Had a day off today but by like 10AM I was sleepy. So I went to sleep, woke up again at 8PM, now I gotta get back to sleep so I can wake up in about 3.5 hours.

This is after sleeping for like 13 hours on Friday night. Guess I had a huge sleep debt.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #695) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:22 pm

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I suppose realistically speaking it's better to just not action in the event that I could theoretically use my role on a later night to help in some way but ehhhhhhhhhh... who cares?
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Post Post #761 (isolation #696) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:05 pm

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A *good* mod would use a page top for the flip.

Or so I've heard other people say.

Just an arbitrary thought completely unrelated to anything happening in this game.

Not suggesting anything.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #697) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:11 pm

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What's the process for doing flips and night action resolution and stuff? Do you have a spreadsheet? Do you run it past someone to check for mistakes?
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Post Post #765 (isolation #698) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:21 pm

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I don't know morse code. I think I'd just assume you were having a seizure or something if I saw that.
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Post Post #767 (isolation #699) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:37 pm

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That looks like a face without a nose/mouth.

I would have preferred (*.*)
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Post Post #769 (isolation #700) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:46 pm

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How deep.
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Post Post #770 (isolation #701) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:10 pm

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If Assassin has something that incriminates Lancer, then I literally don't even need to do anything today and it plays out exactly how I want it to play out rofl.
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Post Post #771 (isolation #702) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:11 pm

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I get to roleplay a tree stump for another day!!!
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Post Post #772 (isolation #703) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:16 pm

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I feel like that remark went over Assassin's head. Hmmm
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Post Post #773 (isolation #704) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:04 pm

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So...

Things I know.

Faceless Moon basically takes precedence over everything else in the game unless I somehow also get taunted.

Rider was not immune to the ability I used N1.

Ruler was not immune to the ability I used N2.

It's likely that regardless of which one of them I choose to target tonight, if a kill goes through, that player is confirmed town.
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Post Post #774 (isolation #705) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:25 pm

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Do you prod mains when you prod people? Assume I'm too lazy to test this myself.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #706) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:08 pm

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One further question: Do I unlock an achieve if we win the game without me voting once?
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Post Post #776 (isolation #707) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:08 pm

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Cabd: "Yes, its title is 'deadweight'."

Awww...
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Post Post #777 (isolation #708) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:09 pm

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I still want that achievement.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #709) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:00 pm

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Probably optimal use of my role would have been to save the last shot of the investigative ability and use it on, say, Assassin tonight...

But...

*shrug*

Who cares?
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Post Post #779 (isolation #710) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:03 pm

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I have a feeling scum have been complaining about how imbalanced and town-sided this game is, especially with the whole "with a master" shenanigans.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #711) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:04 pm

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Oh well, the "with a master" stuff was probably an oversight that you couldn't really have expected to play out like it did, but I think even without that, the parties involved probably would have been town-read lol.
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Post Post #781 (isolation #712) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:54 am

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And you think I have an issue with spamming? At least I can patiently wait a day or two for a dude to either show up or not show up without spamming the thread.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #713) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:54 am

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Well, without spamming the public thread.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #714) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:54 am

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You're still stuck in this nightmare.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #715) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:46 pm

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I suppose I should clarify whether I can be roleblocked at all.

For example,

IF, say, Player A is a scum roleblocker, and I target Player B with Faceless Moon, can Faceless Moon be blocked?

My assumption based on previous answers is "no" but I suppose it can't hurt to check.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #716) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:22 pm

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Oh well

Guess the obvious decision here is:

FACELESS MOON: RULER


And then stop caring about this game until D4 starts.
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Post Post #787 (isolation #717) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:26 pm

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I suppose I should also verify:

If a player didn't action on the previous night, are they forced to not action again?
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Post Post #788 (isolation #718) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:26 pm

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I guess I'm just asking whether "taking the exact same actions" applies to no action at all.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #719) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:31 pm

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I don't know how to describe the level of disappointment I'll be filled with if my super awesome 1-shot ability is used on a player that's like... immune to taunts or some bullshit like that.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #720) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:33 pm

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Oh, one thing I didn't talk about yesterday because, well, it wasn't necessary, is that I had a theory that you'd given a bunch of town players the ability to talk in thread while locked but also one scum player the same ability. Maybe two but probably at least one. To obfuscate it being seen as a super-town thing to be able to do.

To offset people seeing, say, Beast/Shielder's abilities and going "why would scum be able to do that!?!?!?"

That sort of thing.

But since Lancer had that ability, it's a moot point now. It's unclear whether another scum player has it or not. Doesn't matter either way now with only one scum left.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #721) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:37 pm

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Alter Ego is so ffery-like.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #722) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:17 pm

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Cabd wrote:Day should start right on time.
But... what if I change my target at the last minute, you know, just to troll you?
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Post Post #795 (isolation #723) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:28 pm

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I still have 30 minutes to contemplate my decision.

:thinking:
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Post Post #796 (isolation #724) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:29 pm

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Daylight savings kicked in a 2am (well I guess technically 3am) this morning. Now 9PM your time is 1PM my time.
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Post Post #797 (isolation #725) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:30 pm

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My alarm went off 1 hour earlier so now I'm 1-hour-less-sleep sleepy. I might take an afternoon nap.
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Post Post #799 (isolation #726) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:34 pm

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I've never liked DST. I grew up in Brisbane, Queensland and they don't observe DST despite being on the east coast like NSW/Victoria which DO observer DST.

The entire concept has always sucked to me and felt unnecessary.

Also, it completely RUINS any plans I had for 2:30AM on Sunday.
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Post Post #801 (isolation #727) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:37 pm

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How does that help farmers? It's not like the sun is magically up an hour longer just because of DST
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Post Post #802 (isolation #728) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:37 pm

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... Or is that what it actually does and I've just been ignorant of it the whole time? If so, wow.
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Post Post #804 (isolation #729) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:52 pm

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People in Australia never used to really do Halloween but recently they've started doing it.

Because we have to be like big brother or some shit.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #730) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:55 pm

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I actually lived in America when I was like... I guess 3-4 years old maybe? Somewhere in Louisiana. I don't remember much of it except that I got candy corn on Halloween and one time lightning struck a tree in the yard and it fell on the house. And I had a friend who broke my nose and I was bleeding everywhere. I went to some kindergarten thing I think before I started school in Australia when I came over here at 5 years old.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #731) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:58 pm

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Is candy corn awful? I've never seen it in Australia so my only memory of it is that I got it once on Halloween.
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Post Post #810 (isolation #732) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:24 pm

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Oh, those were two separate instances. I was just talking about memories of America. For some reason, don't have many positive ones. Just candy corn, broken nose and house getting broken by a tree. And faint memories of riding a bus to school.

My accent for most of my life was some weird mix of kiwi, aussie and american. Went like NZ -> Australia when I was like 1 year old -> America when I was like 3 -> back to Australia when I was like 5.
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Post Post #811 (isolation #733) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:27 pm

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"I've already gone to bed. Sorry!"

HAHA
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Post Post #812 (isolation #734) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:53 pm

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"I'm a bit tired this morning, and I have to look after my daughter. Flip tonight!"

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