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tinker taylor soldier scum

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Norway is gonna be able to sniff me out so imma want to NK him as soon as we can but that's just my 2 cents.

i concur. norway dies first.

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JacksonVirgo

never heard of him

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we have no excuse not to win this lol. dream team

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I also have been working hard for 4 years to get a very specific promotion at work and it finally happened last week! I'm so happy but I'm going up to 60-65 hours per week so my activity has been suffering since then.

Congrats! What job is it?

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VOTE: Glitch
You feel like scum this game.

How would town respond to this? I have written a reply 3 times and deleted it because Norway is gonna sniff me out lol.

I don't want to look too defendy. I don't want to be overeager to defend myself eithef. But There's no actual argument. Just a feeling. I can't rebut that.

Just match your usual play. Frequency of posts, type of content, style, paranoia, aggressivity.

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Dont freak out Glitch, look at how you reacted to pressure in your town games and replicate that

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Id be shocked if we lynched nero day 1 and i dont think its a good idea

Norwee is more accurate than nero, pocket him and kill him, keep gamma in the town block, and sheep the town block of gamma/nero/taylor/norwee

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We need to boost gamma and taylors towncred so they are equivalent targets for protection with norwee

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Glitch just townread ur entire scum team all game long actually

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Making this big so it stands out in my ISO

Look guys. Whoever is town here.

I got nothing to lose. Im an ascetic villager. Which is worse than a vanilla because a vanilla can be town cleared by a cop or protected by a doc. Im a dead walking villager, it's just a question of time.

If you yeet me you are gonna feel really bad about it, but if you let me live, the wolves will have to take care of me. Specially if im close to figure them out.

So i ask you to do the right thing. Don't yeet me, let the wolves have to waste a factional kill on me.

This is the right mechanical play, i claimed my role how I was supposed to claim. Don't let me get yeeted, make the wolves have to NK me. One NK on me means one less NK against a PR. Yeeting me helps wolves, not town.

My scum leans: Nero and Norweggian. When i die and I flip green, investigate them, watch them, track them first.

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Hows everybody doing today?

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Lol unlaut argument is extremely weaksauce

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Did they really hammer?

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Whats the unofficial VC?

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Fuck i had a feeling they miscounted

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I want all of you guys to vote Pretentious and none of you to defend him.

Let's end day 1.

What's wrong? I hope you feel better Gamma!

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We have the votes to kill off pretentious, the most dangerous player in the game.

Everyone should declare intent to vote him but wait for what he has to say first. As soon as he posts, claims, we pile all our votes on him and finish him off.

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guys dont try to get towncred for defending pretentious or muh, offer no resistance at all.

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L-2, guys get ready

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Everyone should declare intent to vote him but wait for what he has to say first. As soon as he posts, claims, we pile all our votes on him and finish him off.

Taylor :/

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I said wait until he posts before you vote

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I told you. Now a townie unvoted and we have less votes in reserve than we did. Check this PT more often guys.

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The move is to wait until presitigious posts until we vote him.

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Vote pretentious

See this is why i told you to hold your votes back

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Taylor should consider voting nero here if she thinks it aligns with what she would do as town

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Gamma shpuld consider moving voted as well. Gamma knows Pretentious meta

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I think we all unvote and play the long game at this point imo

We missed our window because you guys weren't there today/didn't listen

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oh no, Gamma, noooo... don't double down on Pretentious lol. This is my best pocket.

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gamma unvote and i will call you town for the rest of the game

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we will install our new town block. the hegemony of our scumteam shall rule the 7 kingdoms

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I know I have an unorthodox playstyle, but the pairing of ABR and I have the potential to completely dominate against scum, And end up with me being night killed.

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destroy the scum with facts and logic, ABR

But we are the scum

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is boon and FL the same person lol. damn.

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Norway's charisma is over 9000. He can sway the whole game any way he wants and lots of people will follow him. Even when being SR by others he has a lot of control over the game state and the overall reads of the town.

I shut him down pretty good

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i think we all townread each other and powerwolf to victory

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this is the most competent scum team ive ever had lol. thank you

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Finish off pretentious guys

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I know you're already voting him, but follow Gamma's lead and tear into him until town eats him alive

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post more taylor/glitch, we need to keep the pressure up

Glitch feel free to preview your posts here before posting, I feel like you might slip and then we will have to bus you

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we can keep pretentious alive or we can flip him, it's up to you guys. go with whatever feels most like what town would do.

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maybe we can lynch nero

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Taylor should try to lynch Nero for certain lol. Gamma can't.

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Glitch, Taylor, FL, DGB, and Guill is a good start for Nero wagon.

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Glitch you wanna vote Nero Cain?

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no. you shouldnt scumread both. guilo is the main player going after nero.

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dont make excuses for your activity, theres much worse players than you

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Something feels wrong about Guillo. On a beyond-the-game level.

How so?

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Spoiler:

133 Seems like a choice based on personal issue with Swift

its a frustrated joke

the answer to her question is 2 posts up.

161 Discredits NPOM posting is hollow and generic

or like, i can have an opinion

344 And goes nuclear on people when they don't.

I'm not sure how who can call that "going nuclear"

345 How many townreads does he expect from other players on D1?

I think it's a plenty fair question. Where I was going with this is I felt like IV was buddying up to you.

402 Overreaction on post 401, it was clearly a joke vote. Note this is also "Pretentious" slot now.

yes I was playing along with it

412 JV is right though, it is very presumptuous to say that all 4 scum are in that list. If that was true, then say goodbye to your hopes of winning the lottery cause you just used all your luck on this one. Calling you "stupid" for it was uncalled for, but unrealistic? I agree. Not discredity at all.

Why am I unable to have reads and feeling so early in the game? Just b/c I have early reads doesn't mean they are static.

414 Getting accused of OMGUS over a joke is non-sensical and angering.

FMPOV it wasn't impossible that JV saw my suspicion of the slot and then "joke" voted me.

446 Trivializes JV's emotions as fake. Scummy.

that's like really really really not what this says. At most you could argue that I was scum that was trying to keep players from town reading JV.

451 This makes no sense at all. Do you really believe his joke vote was a serious vote?

yes? lulzaly throwing down a joke vote is a thing scum are plenty capable of doing.

463 Pushing for votes.

Voting is every town's personal power

. Trying to influence it in any way or create a situation where the target feels rushed to do it is scummy as hell.

I agree but JV was being useless with theirs so...asking when someone is going to start being useful isn't rushing lol

485 This pinged me as contradictory cause Nero townreads Norwee but implies Norwee is scummy by being less scummy than other slots. Pings me as someone who'd townread the other as long as he does the other bidding.

we've already talked about this and I still really don't get it. Like...slot B is scummier than slot C slot M is scummier than slot T.

490 Is he certain that I'm not ascetic to say that?

my main read is

IV as town due to the Ascetic claim.

unless I missed it where IV also claimed ascetic then letting Duke know that IV wasn't a claimed ascetic seems like an okish thing to do. y do you have a problem with this?

501 Condescending much?

no?

503 Huh?

its a joke based on norway fretting that he had too many town reads

520 Why were these slots scummier than Norway at this point? Notice that he stills refer to Norway as still being less scummy than those slots, but scummy nonetheless.

i think I got it now. You think my use of the word scummier is saying that I was scum reading Norway, I wasn't.

545 So it is ok for you make questions and gaslight people left and right, but dear god they make them to you and they are scummy. What a hypocrite!

??????

I don't understand how you could even read this post as that.

584 She is right. Now I get it why you are so hostile to everyone that disagrees and scumreads you. You fear us because you are scum.

my reasons for why I suspected Taylor were there. Having actually played with scum Taylor its right out of her playbook to lie and ask ppl to do busy work. It's annoying and I'm allowed to be annoyed that she won't just read my ISO instead of making me repeat myself.

595 Finally! Suspected JV for not playing the game when they were on? Since when do you manage what they do with their time and when they play? Silly angleshooting way to accuse someone.

In MBOS viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84589 I suspected a slot b/c I saw them online but not posting in the thread. They flipped scum. I and others have used this logic to flip other scum b4.

600 Hypocritical post, didn't you scumread Muh for casting a vote against me to get reactions from me earlier on?

?????

I'm saying that it's not hard to get reads so Taylor saying she was having a hard time getting reads/feels seemed fake to me.

610 Given you scumread people for inactivity, why is GoldenParadox a "???" for you? To be clear, I suspect Golden, so I'm interested in tbis answer.

that's exactly why Golden was a ???. If you suspected Golden then why is it when I suspect someone one of inactivity its angle shooting or is/was your Golden suspicion not activity-based?

625 What kind of question is this? Townreads or Scumreads don't have to be reciprocal between players. You are implying she has to townread you because her townreads, town read you! They could be wrong about you just as easy as she could be wrong about you or them.

Didn't you argue that you shouldn't be scumread b/c a lot of players town read you? It's just a question guy.

629 Scummy comment. That is not discrediting, it is thinking objectively.

lol guy she's actively saying that her town reads can't be right. It's a scummy take. Like Taylor doesn't HAVE to agree but she's outright not playing with her supposed team.

847I think she refers to your pushing method which is scummy as hell.

pushing people for what I believe in is scummier behavior isn't "scummy as hell" It's good town play. Taylor feels like I shouldn't be pushing her b/c she's "scum read often" and I just think that's

ATE

. She's not above suspicion and she's plenty capable of rolling a red pm.

858 He is right though!

no, he's not. I've not been fluffy. I mean maybe I hyper post but I haven't been posting emptily. If I have diffrent opinions than you or him it doesn't mean that I'm manipulating anyone.

859 Everyone that opposes you is scum so far and your reasons come with a plethora of scum tactics

I mean, everyone that I was calling scum I was scum reading b4 they opposed me.

891 Why put your own name in your town list? Town noobs do this but you are not a noob. From a psychological stand point you feel the need to ascertain that you are town when you are scum, towns don't worry about putting the names there because they know by default they are town.

LMFAO!

892 Your POE is made out of players who directly opposed your views. If you are not scum, you are anti-town.

ok but I was scum reading them all first so I don't see the problem. It's like you are saying that I'm scum reading those ppl based on them opposing me which isn't true. The guy that's ACTUALLY doing that (Boon) you are town reading. He's scum reading all of me, norway and gamma for wanting to flip him. I know I know, your reply "BUT U R SCUM" I mean I'm not but my point is he's actually doing what you are accusing me of.

995 The thought crossed my mind also

then I don't understand why I'm getting so much flak for scumreading Taylor if you had thought about a Taylor-Norway team.

998 I think you are full of shit, stop twisting it to make it seem like I'm w/w with IV. I meant that I town leaned IV and not ABR.

this has NOTHING to do with you. I'm saying that If IV is scum it makes ABR look like town b/c FMPOV IV is just sheeping ABR.

1010 Yah, the problem is that you are a hypocrite, because you accuse scum read Muh for it but TheGoldenParadox is a ??? with significantly lower posts thatn pretty much everyone else?

TGP wasn't a town read that I was considering could maybe be lurkers scum.

1131 Pretentious subbed in for JV whom you pushed based on an alleged OMGUS vote on you, you been pushing that slot for ridiculous reasons just because he opposed you earlier in the game

JV made a ridiculously bad "catchup" under pressure seemingly to only alleviate pressure instead of earnestly trying to catchup and find scum. Boon was very much active lurking in the thread which is even SCUMMIER THAN regular lurking. His attempted hammer isn't townie.

1330 You are not obvtown in this analysis.

you are not coherent in this analysis.

1387 Does he self hammer every time he is town or are you saying this based in one game?

he has done it at least twice. IME with him he gets super fucking angry when he's pushed and is town. Him not doing that makes me thnk he's scum.

1399 I'll consider this a threat and the last red flag I need.

lol guy. From my uninformed POV you could be a possible Boon buddy. Is this really such a hard concept to grasp?

I FEEL SORRY FOR GUILLOTINA BASED ON THIS REBUTTAL.

Right off the bat there's just a lot of salt b/c I kinda implied he was a nooby and I think that seeping into his read on me. There's alot of bad takes and misreading going on. I'm not 100% sure if thats unintentional or its more of an agenda type thing. I kinda feel like he might be town thats mostly scumreading me b/c he's angry that I'm not calling him super fucking town and that make some sense for a new player. Boon also sorta buddying him also might mean this is a town slot.

Did you read this?

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I feel like we may be able to still get a lynch on Guillo easier than Nero. Just my 2 cents

sure we can do what's easy, but we can afford to play the long game and sow division here

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Gamma can you give Glitch the nod of approval if his post is up to snuff?

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take out the ", don't mind if I do", I don't like it.

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-Then later,this TS v Nero stuff seems like Taylor has really strong questions and Nero has really emotional answers. This is the Nero I expected to see all game. Why is this Nero only limited to interacting with TS and not the Nero that is present the entire game?

I feel meh about this

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I'd go for this:

I read pages 1-39 tonight. I'll come back again Sunday to try and finish 39-80ish and then Monday morning I can catch 80ish-all the way caught up. That's my plan at least. In my review of Page 1-39, Nero is the one that sticks out to me.

-256 Why is Nero literally sheeping exactly what Norway said about TS being scummy, when Nero says he has never played with town Taylor?
-299 Nero is so eager to solve scum pair for D1 and putting together scum team speculations on D1 is bad
-414 Nero says JV is angry but JV hasn't been angry at all, why is Nero shading him inaccurately?
-Nero is SO diplomatic this game it hurts, because based on my other game with him where we were both town, it was NOT this way. He was hostile, intense, and aggressive. Why is he different this time? Is he trying to be more winsome to not get faded out?
--Nero in 570 totally dismisses Taylor who made a valid point

I see there's good momentum on him right now so I will add to that.

VOTE: Nero

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Actually Glitch, I don't quite get this one:

-299 Nero is so eager to solve scum pair for D1 and putting together scum team speculations on D1 is bad

Can you phrase it better?

You make Nero sound townie

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I checked your games, this isn't your usual posting style.

I didnt see any catch ups like this.

You might want to switch the style completely

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Your town style is to quote players, make responses and comments, make reads list from scum to town, sometimes 3 at a time.

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Be more part of the game instead of just making notes as an observer.

Doesnt matter if you're not fully caught up

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Ok just fix or remove 299

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Gamma get norwee off taylors back

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Nero is no go apparently guys

Help me on Non Imh perhaps?

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Or back to pretentious?

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@Taylor Swift , what do you think about Nero?

Be careful.

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Be consistent with your past views of Nero

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i thnk if the 3 of us bus glitch we can become the new town block and kill everyone else

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if we go with this plan, Gamma should lead the charge and taylor and I follow him, Norway will follow for sure, and then we will NK Norway tonight while Gamme gets protected

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ok lets finish off pretentious for today.

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glitch vote pretentious

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would love to see sircakez' mod commentary on this game later lol

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Glitch, come in the thread, apologize for not being caught up and put a naked vote on Pretentious. Let's end the day

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Geez. Sad stuff.

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Twilight lol.

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Like I’m not gonna play through the entirety of a large normal on my fucking Pretentious account.

Use some common sense. I worked you lot, and scum will be caught because of it.

I purposefully set this game up to play Town Martyr.

You will see when town wins this game.

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Yeah I hammered

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I protect Taylor
Gamma kills Nero
Taylor rolecops Norway

Thoughts?

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Maybe we can rolecop DGB, May or one of the lurkers instead

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We want to definitely get rid of Norway/Nero since they townread each other. So that's a given.

Who among us is most likely to be vigged? I think Taylor?

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I protect Taylor
Glitch kills Norway
Taylor rolecops NPOM

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Forgive me Father, for I have sinned.

?

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Who do you think Taylor Swift was? Apparently a perma banned user.

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lol makes sense

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what did votato do to get permabanned?

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Who's alt are you?

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i thought he was a child

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Hey all. Mind getting me up to speed on the game?

you'll have to skim the iso's of every player to get an idea of where things stand. For those with a lot of posts, id suggest just looking at the later on stuff.

i dont think anybody claimed yet.

may suspects you, nero as well has been suspecting your slot for a lot of day 1.

me and gamma are townread. glitch is undercover with low activity posters and wobbling along.

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the interesting players are guillotina and nero.

NoPowerOverMe and innocentvillager have decent activity.

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there's a couple plays we can do today:

1) we all townread or ignore each other and try to all stay alive

2) we distance early day 2, fight each other all day, and then settle for a townie at the end

3) we hard bus 1 player to set the other 3 up for endgame

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No. Only very few people suspect any of us.

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I would recommend that you form organic reads and pay no attention to your alignment. Play as you would as a townie even if you would attack one of us

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politically viable

Dont worry about this, you are welcome to attack any of us.

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there's a couple plays we can do today:

1) we all townread or ignore each other and try to all stay alive

2) we distance early day 2, fight each other all day, and then settle for a townie at the end

3) we hard bus 1 player to set the other 3 up for endgame

90% of the thread is about Pretentious/flavor leaf/boons (all 3 the same player) begging and bargaining to survive.

dont read the game in a linear way. read each player iso, skip Pretentious and only read the back end of Nero. We are killing Norway tonight anyway so skim his posts and ignore all the Pretentious stuff.

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Pretentious tried to hammer muh without a claim, and failed, because he was 1 off from a bad vote count Nero miscounted. Then the whole game revolved around whether to lynch him or not for 50 pages. It's all pointless. It's better you read in isolation the posts of everyone else.

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the game is a VERY short read. should take you 15 minutes to cover the iso of these guys:

Glitch
TheDuke
muh316
TheGoldenParadox
Umlaut
May**
Non lmh*
DrippingGoofball

Out of the active players, you can quickly skim, most of it is pointless and revolves around Pretentious:
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NorwegianboyEE
Gamma Emerald
Nero Cain
Guillotina
NoPowerOverMe
innocentvillager

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basically here's what happened.

Guillotina came out early day 1 (first 15 pages) and claimed ascetic and told town not to target him tonight. He was the top vote for a while.

Then it was muh. And Pretentious tried to hammer without a claim.

Then I voted Pretentious and everyone else piled on.

There was a short time where Guillotina tried to lead a vote on Nero, but it fizzled out. Nero is still strongly townread by most the player list.

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Push on Nero: viewtopic.php?p=12339065#p12339065

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perfect, you have 22 hours

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The Pretentious hammer miss: viewtopic.php?p=12334797#p12334797

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17 hours! Its SO LONG

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I better not die tonight

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Can we talk about the benefits of NK'ing Nero vs. Norway vs. another player?

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some sith motivation for the bois as we plan our next move

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“Evil? What is that? ...You said you were death itself. Are you evil, then, or are you simply stronger and more awake than others? Who gives more shape to sentient history: the good, who adhere to the tried and true, or those who seek to rouse beings from their stupor and lead them to glory? A storm you are, but a much needed one, to wash away the old and complacent and prune the galaxy of deadweight.

You’re heartless. Ambitious. Arrogant. Insidious. And without shame or empathy. More, you’re a murderer."

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How are Norwee's reads threatening us?

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umlaut is interesting but hes tunneled on TheGoldenParadox

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should we check umlaut for PR instead of NPOM?

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I'll put this in tentatively:

I protect Glitch
Glitch kills Norway
Insano rolecops umlaut

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my logic is the vig wouldnt kill a brand new player who rep'd in and caught up overnight

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or i could protect gamma

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ABR protects Gamma
Glitch kills Norway
Insano rolecops umlaut

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I could lynch Norway if I tried.

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Norway is the right move but i like to play vs good players like clidd / norway / flavor leaf / something special / etc. and destroy them.

I know I am the better player so it's a good challenge.

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50 minutes bois

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Sircakez is online!!!!

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1 minute!!! Lets gooo

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lol. nero comes out swinging

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this was what i was afraid of with NKing Norwee. The tension is all gone. I'll try to create artificial drama and maybe get into 1v1 with Gamma.

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then we lynch umlaut lol

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oh my god, everybody vote nero cain lol

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watch nero cain come out and claim vig

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ok dont vote nero yet DONT VOTE NERO YET

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WE WANT TO BE THE LAST ONES ON THE WAGON. SO WE CONTROL WHEN THE DAY ENDS

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to be clear, in normals there is no chance of a guilty cop check on an innocent unless they are miller right? So given guil is truthful and Nero is not Miller, he is CONFIRMED scum?

If Nero was Miller the right mechanical play was to claim at start of Day 1, which he didn't.

Also, I never said that my check was on him or not, I only said that I got a redcheck and that redcheck was in the list I posted, did you just slip up?

VOTE: InnocentVillager

Now, you gotta tell me why did you "laugh" at the start of Day 2. Did you expect me turn up dead or something?

Also, tell me why you really tried to push an ascetic claim when it was policy to to do so?

lol wtf

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you should just do your catch up like what you planned

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Youre not even on the list he claims to have a guilty on

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But the rest of us are. This is retarded lol

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Oh right. Its... weird for sure

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imagine if we policy lynched guillotine

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LAL

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who should lead the charge?

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Probably you and maybe insano

I was thinking Glitch

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glitch hurry up and declare that you dont believe guillotine

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we should all plan a time to be online together and chain quicklynh guillotine lol

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Boon = FL = Pretentious

Looks good Glitch. Do not defend guillotine whatsoever

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IV didnt do anything bad

Did you miss the cop fakeclaim on Nero?

Anyone would have voted Nero then....

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glitch you gotta read this pt more often. you shouldnt have vote guillo yet. we need to control the end of day in case we have a chance to nuke him out of orbit before he even gets to claim lol

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its ok just keep your vote for now

[Albert B. Rampage]

lol party is on, people!

[Albert B. Rampage]

hammer nero or guillo LOL

[Albert B. Rampage]

probability-wise, its probably a fakeclaim from a VT.

strategically, we are better off killing nero first, and then when he flips town, we kill guillo day 3

and theres a small chance nero is a 3P/vig/SK who targeted gamma yesterday

[Albert B. Rampage]

i think we split our votes. glitch should vote Nero. gamma keeps on guillo. i will wait.

[Albert B. Rampage]

insano, dont rush the day, just take your time and do your regular catch up. lets be patient

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright lets just hammer guillotine

[Albert B. Rampage]

Everybody vote guillotine lets end this quickly

[Albert B. Rampage]

We wont be able to turn the town against Nero.

Quicklynch Guillotine

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think I hammered again lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

OMG

He was actually a BP Tracker!!!

[Albert B. Rampage]

We have a dilemma. Do we kill nero or leave him alive?

Im assuming guillo tracked Nero to himself and freaked out

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think nero is vig. Ill protect Glitch and have Gamma shoot Nero imo

[Albert B. Rampage]

If you don't yeet me, I will check Gamma Emerald next.

I saw this and I decided to end him right then and there, and it was the right decision after all.

Here's what I would do:

I protect Glitch
Gamma kills Nero
Isano rolecops NPOM

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nero will debate between vigging me or Glitch tonight. It will probably be me but I can't protect myself.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Theory:
Guillotine tracked Nero to himself. Since he's BP, he figured Nero was NKing him since he was already suspicious of Nero D1, and felt Nero would retaliate at night.

He got excited D2 and went for the jugular.

When me and IV voted Nero, he got cold feet and wanted to invite more slips and data before he would fully commit to lying about a guilty on Nero in case Nero was a different PR.

He figured town has enough investigative power since he's a tracker, and that left Nero in a suspicious position of a scum PR or goon who NK'd him.

He completely ignored the Norwee kill and assumed that the vig killed Norwee because of his Nero tunnel.

When Nero claimed VT, he doubled down on his guilty on Nero and figured he was right all along and was wrong to waffle.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Theory:
Guillotine tracked Nero to himself. Since he's BP, he figured Nero was NKing him since he was already suspicious of Nero D1, and felt Nero would retaliate at night.

He got excited D2 and went for the jugular.

When me and IV voted Nero, he got cold feet and wanted to invite more slips and data before he would fully commit to lying about a guilty on Nero in case Nero was a different PR.

He figured town has enough investigative power since he's a tracker, and that left Nero in a suspicious position of a scum PR or goon who NK'd him.

He completely ignored the Norwee kill and assumed that the vig killed Norwee because of his Nero tunnel.

When Nero claimed VT, he doubled down on his guilty on Nero and figured he was right all along and was wrong to waffle.

mod: don't answer this, but if you could let the graveyard know about my theory id be curious how they would react to it

[Albert B. Rampage]

Here’s the thing, Nero claimed VT. Unless we’re concerned about him getting another shot off I suggest we leave him alone.

You're lucky you're playing with me, Gamma.

With me on the team, we are a superinformed minority.

I guarantee you Nero is the vig.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah we have to kill Nero. If he was actually a tracker then Nero is a PR who targeted Norway N1 and so tracker targeted Norway and got the result "glitch and Nero visited Norway," and Nero knows that and will absolutely come out the gate raging tomorrow using that to 1v1 me and the only lynch tomorrow will be me or Nero. Idk if I can hold my own against nero and even if I can, when he flips green I will be the D3 lynch. In an effort to protect me I really need Nero to die tonight. I should also do the kill just in case there's a detective and I was the only one not on Guills 6 person list.

everything in your post is completely wrong, read my theory

no you should not do the kill at all.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Guillo tracked Nero and saw Nero visited Guillo. Freaked out.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Guillo insisted there were 2 kills, that Norwee was vigged, and claimed his BP was used, for very good reasons. It explains his paranoia. There's also a purpose to me being a mafia doctor.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nero knows Glitch is scum

[Albert B. Rampage]

he explained it. mainly meta and tone

[Albert B. Rampage]

its no surprise, I would have caught Glitch too. we might need to bus him tomorrow unless something unexpected happens

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think tomorrow, I attack you > you drop a case on Glitch > Glitch plays innocent and attacks a townie like umlaut. those are the day opening moves that will improve our odds of winning.

[Albert B. Rampage]

we have to create division and controlled opposition

[Albert B. Rampage]

Day 3 Strategy

Outline: Get Gamma into the endgame with as much towncred as possible and at least 2 buddies.

Gamma needs to continue to look fair and impartial. He should represent the majority's opinion while maintaining a leadership position. Whatever way the game breaks tomorrow, Gamma should be reinforcing that wagon. Gamma will be the voice of the people.

I will be the voice of the lazy looking for an easy answer. My job is to look confident and reassure everyone that the town is still in good hands, and town is going to win. I will tell them what they want to hear and present very opinionated stances they may or may not agree with, but they will know where I stand; with or against them. My job is division.

Glitch's job will be to look like he has no clue what's going on. He should be erratic. All over the place. Coming up with theories that make no sense and can't be true. Guillotina 2.0 minus the hubris. His job will be to look so illogical and inconsistent that people join me and Gamma for stability or easy answers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We've nuked all of the town leaders out of orbit. Pretentious, Norwee, Guillotina (if he had tracked the right player, he would have been a problem with his BP, self-conviction, and willingness to lead the town), and finally, Nero.

We are the captains now, gentlemen. Maybe I die tonight, but we are firmly in control here regardless of if I die or not. My last push was on Gamma so he can milk that into the endgame.

If we execute on this plan, we should be able to let day 3 play out for as long as the town wants it to. Without the town leaders and after three quickhammer attempts and two on town, there will be less cohesion and bandwagons will take more time to develop. Gamma needs to take his time and hold back, be patient, offer some solutions but not overplay his hand. We need to draw out May, umlaut, NPOM, duke's replacement, DGB, and so on. Let them come to their own conclusions, while keeping options open, and as people chime in and get stronger feelings of certainty, Gamma will come in and agree with them, bringing his strong support to their cause and validating their theories as an agenda-less sounding board.

I will continue providing strong thread presence and scumhunting to push the game momentum and create hope for victory and entertainment. They know they are in deep trouble, so I will give them reprieve and the feeling that at least someone knows what they're doing and how to win.

Insano just needs to blend in with the others without attracting attention to himself.

Glitch has to make a lot of noise and push people away from him into the arms of me and Gamma by his made-up and impossible theories.

This way, we will ensure to pocket a few players and set up our endgame parameters.

As for claims, depending on how the wind blows tomorrow, as we are keeping all our options including bussing, I will claim doctor. Glitch should claim VT. Gamma VT. Insano can come up with whatever he likes that's not too powerful.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Glitch you need to be Guillotina 2.0, make a massive distraction but town needs to think "this guy is a confused townie, he is so off his rocker and out of sync that he's probably just dumb town and not manipulative scum or hiding scum". The exact player that town doesn't want to lynch at this point is an idiot. They will be more willing to lynch me or someone that will give them any sort of clue to what's going on, any information to go on, rather than a village idiot. That's why that's the perfect role for you to slip into to avoid getting lynched.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If I die tonight, consider killing innocentvillager N4, he's probably going to be the best NK unless a new leader emerges and runs one of us up and gets massive towncred from it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We all have to look stupid. If we look competent and happy, it will be obvious we are scum.

Glitch, just post about your theories and go off on tangents, connecting dots that don't exist and intentionally misunderstand roles, like tracker. I feel that was genuine, and you need to keep doing it to stay alive.

[Albert B. Rampage]

"[...] scum can play really well and only make one mistake. That's all that is necessary as not every post will be scummy. All you need is one solid slip and you can find scum. From reading some of Albert B. Rampage's games, he's extremely successful with doing just that. He's found more scum than I can probably ever hope to find." ~Truant

I only need to catch you make ONE post that feels off to drive the entire town's wrath down on you.

I agree you made some good posts and improved from day 1. But based off a single day 1 post, I would have tunnel voted you too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If we get a successful kill on Nero then I don't think the town is going to be at my throat at all. I think the majority of the pressure will actually be on you because people will be very suspicious of two quickhammers on town in a row. Both of those were great scores for us and I am not saying they were a bad move but you're going to catch some heat for those in this next day phase.

Gamma needs to vote me if the majority of town thinks I'm scum and take me down.

Glitch, you need to defend me with whatever you got. Remember the role you're playing is someone who is lost ane confused and easily tricked. This is the best role for you to help us win. Do not under any circumstance vote any of your buddies, but you may voice suspicion or question us, just tone it way down, nothing over the top, and don't act sure about us.

You should act sure about town being scum, hold opinions no one else has, disagree with reasonable opinions, etc.

Your job is chaos and distraction. We will try to keep you alive by making it seem like we want to avoid lynching another Guillotine, while the wound is fresh.

Feel free to claim without pressure whatsoever or do gambits or other crazy things. Get into the role like an actor.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gamma is alive because scum haven't gotten to him yet.

I'm alive because of my hammers.

Glitch is alive because scum are using him to win.

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This is how we get to the endgame, gentlemen.

[Albert B. Rampage]

"[...] scum can play really well and only make one mistake. That's all that is necessary as not every post will be scummy. All you need is one solid slip and you can find scum. From reading some of Albert B. Rampage's games, he's extremely successful with doing just that. He's found more scum than I can probably ever hope to find." ~Truant

I only need to catch you make ONE post that feels off to drive the entire town's wrath down on you.

I agree you made some good posts and improved from day 1. But based off a single day 1 post, I would have tunnel voted you too.

Pro tip: future good posts do not redeem past bad posts, they just distract from them. Good players won't be distracted, they will pick the weakest post in your entire iso, then press and press until you break.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lol where do you think TGP's head is at:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=85064

[Albert B. Rampage]

he won't survive. there isn't two bulletproof, gamma is unlikely to be roleblocked or redirected, the doctor wont protect a vt with a claimed guilty on him.

[Albert B. Rampage]

lets prepare our opening moves on day 3 reads list, whether or not we publish them to the town.

TOWN
players ranked
SCUM

[Albert B. Rampage]

good idea. you can debate gamma over 10 pages lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

17 hours! GET HYPED FOR TOMORROW!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nice

[Albert B. Rampage]

don't publish it then, just keep it as a reference guide

[Albert B. Rampage]

60 minutes to open!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Interesting. This guy fakeclaimed out of nowhere.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sometimes bad play is just bad play with no redeeming quality lmao

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gonna be easy to blame lurkers for this NK lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

BTW if we dont submit a kill cakez confirmed to me via pm there will be no kill

[Albert B. Rampage]

Post your redirector theory. Its a good one lol.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Go more crazy Glitch, dont bound yourself in the realm of reason

[Albert B. Rampage]

The normal you will get caught 100%. The crazy you has a chance.

The only one who thought you made sense was guillotine...

[Albert B. Rampage]

yeah man, i blundered last night.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No... dont do it

[Albert B. Rampage]

Pretend to be apathetic town

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nice catchup. Me likey

[Albert B. Rampage]

We should hunt for more PRs imo but im ok with Gammas plan if you guys decide

[Albert B. Rampage]

Meh, don't sweat it. Even if he's

right

it doesn't matter if he has no sway.

He's not even right about anything, he's just throwing darts at the wall.

There's not a single player in this game who has a solve.

[Albert B. Rampage]

i think you guys have to agree to lynch muh, im gonna stay off this one after being on the last 2.dont vote yet necessarily if u dont want to but just agree with them that muh is a good elim

[Albert B. Rampage]

Gamma I think you refuse here. umlaut/NPOM/muh/etc. will command the state of the game, not the newcommers who havent even read the game

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do what you would do as town though

[Albert B. Rampage]

its normal for them to try and probe for weakness. They won't find any.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I prefer pressure on me / Gamma than on insano and Glitch at this point. Let them make their push and we'll see where this goes. The more they attack me the better I justify being alive night after night lol

[Albert B. Rampage]

push on me will break as soon as they see a chance to elim muh when glitch helps them

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nero Cain, Umlaut
Insanoflex, innocentvillager, NoPowerOverMe
TheGoldenParadox, Glitch, Starbuck
Albert B. Rampage, May, Non lmh
muh316, DrippingGoofball

this needs update after your comment about me not being bothered by the townblock. lets keep track of our reads as the game becomes more complex.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I can handle Vax, it just looks like clumsy distancing at this point. It does not make him look good.

The stakes are if we can stall for a couple days til we get closer to deadline and content from Starbuck and then you guys push muh through.

[Albert B. Rampage]

bussing is no unnecessary when you dont have to. imagine how bad a position we would be in if we were bussing