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I’ll post here if I have questions about your play. I don’t want to give scum the impression that it’s easy to drive a wedge between us.
You haven’t been scumread at all this game. That’s towny in and for itself (like, maybe the other townies are good players and they’re right). It also suggests that scum is playing safe. No one townread shelly (or akarin, for that matter) either.-
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Yikes. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
I was confident in my solve then and even moreso now that I’m proven to be half right. The PoE in (whatever post that was, I’m not looking it up) says shelly’s partner has to be Ydrasse by Legolad, because Akarin and Shelly cleared everyone else by play. Dimes to doughnuts it’s Ydrasse, but it really doesn’t matter.-
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Because of her apparent willingness to leave? If she wants to leave, no one is stopping her, except maybe Legolad.
Mikan pulled the same kind of gambit when she first said she'll only dance with you or Harley. It was only closer to the end of the phase that I realized she was serious. Give Ydrasse time. The gambit will fail. If she gets a Gamma flip like she wants, she'll only find an excuse to stick around.
I don't see anything towny about her recent posting. Stuff like this
doesn't read well to me, because it seems like such a little detail to refute. It's kind of like "stop scumreading me for the wrong reasons".In post 1121, Ydrasse wrote:omggggg it’s literally not shade when i’m not actually pushing for an elim here but reminding people that they should be cautious in f4 when i plan to NOT BE IN THE GAME-
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https://youtu.be/tqyIts6h0Eg?t=284
There is no need to frown and be perverse and say me nay. I do not think you too quickly won.
Before shelly flipped, there were lots of possibilities that were still in play. If she flipped town, there would be a lot of work to do. I didn't seriously consider it because I thought the odds were low and it was a waste of mental effort. This is another one of those times. If ydrasse flips town, I'll recalibrate then, but I'm not counting on it. I understand you have your doubts and you have to consider all angles, but I think it would be good to keep it out of the main thread until ydrasse's flip. It's just a distraction. I'm aware that I have the weakest alibi out of my solve in viewtopic.php?p=12428688#p12428688 but you can look back at my interactions with shelly and akarin, and decide for yourself.
As for you, Kanna dear, it vexes me that you haven't been tried and tested in this game. If someone had pressed you and it was debunked, I could look back on that and soothe my doubts, but none of that has happened. As I said before, if you're scum, you're in a very good position with me.-
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I highly doubt the game will reach this state. If it does, I have some serious recalibrating to do.In post 12, Kanna wrote:who would you trust more out of me/you and mikan/harley? do you agree we let mikan and harley ride off into the sunset?
I believe what I said about shelly clearing mikan and harley. So it would have to be you, but that doesn't really make sense. I might give you an ultimatum to leave by a certain time. Scum would never leave with 4 left unless it's conceding. So if you leave, you've proven yourself town, but then we lose. If you don't, then you must be scum, so the game is solved (again).
But again, I don't see that happening and I don't like the odds if it does come to that.-
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Ok, let's see. I didn't read this stuff too closely because shelly is a good scum player and I didn't need the doubt going into the flip.In post 9, Kanna wrote:what do you think of the shelly/ydrasse interaction on page 33 and 34? i think that’s one of the biggest pieces of evidence for a shelly/ydrasse team. ydrasse apparently confident straight away in shelly!scum, but the following interaction doesn’t feel like she’s pushing. they just discuss reads? it reads kind of off.
let me know what you think?
Antagonistic right away. It would look weird if Ydrasse didn't end up in Shelly's scumreads. Maybe shelly's reads ended how they did in order to make their relationship look more normal.In post 802, Ydrasse wrote:Shelly rolled scum in a dance game again
Shelly rolled scum in a dance game again...
self meta = useless. Ydrasse said earlier that she wasn't playing to win. I think her not engaging with the game proper was more of a coping mechanism than a strategy.In post 803, Ydrasse wrote:also ftr i’m not Doing a whole lot but i’ve already tried the “fluff only strategy” in a scum game and lost and i’m not gonna try it again with someone who was in that game let alone pair with them and hope they don’t leave me when the entire game wants it
Uh, that was uncrowned, not me. Anyway, ydrasse is echoing the fake leave in this post.In post 806, shellyc wrote:Leave dance
I'm pissed
Ranny is scum for the way he was pushing me, incongruence of leaving out gamma -> townreading gamma
Yeah, ok. There are a lot of responses one can have when you think you've found scum but I don't think "collaboration" is one of them. Like, Mikan's flailing at me because she thought I was scum was more believable coming from town (but I wouldn't say that in public because I don't want to encourage that kind of behavior).In post 836, Ydrasse wrote:by assuming how stilted he might be as scum or unsure, should go look over his interaction w legolad for a gauge on him again
also uncrowned actually inspires no feelings in me after that reads list which made me go ? but nothing bad stood out to me otherwise from him so he’s a fine and a “review later” since he’s gonna get paired anyways
I'm going to ask Ydrasse at what point she started scumreading that slot.-
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I don't know wtf Mikan is talking about, but I'll tell you something just between us. I've never rolled scum here, but I think I'd do okay if I did. The reason scum gets caught sometimes is they act like they have some shame that they have to hide, whereas town can be firm in knowing they're on the side everyone claims to support. But the truth is, maybe town are the bad guys. If mafia stops killing, that's not a town win. Town needs to eliminate the others. Maybe scum is a persecuted minority fighting back. This is especially evident in this set up. Scum can't even hurt anyone. They just want to dance! Who are we to stop them?In post 753, Kanna wrote:
iirc, ranny hasn't played scum before. to be blunt, i'd expect new!scum to be lurkier/awkward and whatnot. he's been very upfront about his thoughts this game and his thought processes are pretty nuancedIn post 730, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:Kanna Lego is dancing with Ydrasse but if they weren't I'd support u2 dancing.
My thing with Ranny is like
the way he's pushing his reads feels so scummy and it kind of is how I expect scum to push their reads.
I wouldn't be telling you this as scum because I wouldn't want to put the idea in your head, and I have no desire to gloat to you.-
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Is that what you wanted to pause the game over, my turtledove? As far as I’m concerned, the game is over. This is theory talk. I won’t let anything happen to you. You can be scared next game.
But seriously, you should read into it all you want and take all the time you need. I’m going to do that because I don’t think I need to, but I’ll step up and dig deeper if we’re wrong on Ydrasse.
If I were scum, wouldn’t I have hammed it up that I’d be incompetent as scum? “Oh no, I couldn’t possibly conceal my alignment. Tee-hee.”
Since there’s a lot of meta-reading in this game, would you mind sharing one of your scum games? I think the game is over, but it might help me see what others see.-
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sorry to give you that impression.In post 26, Kanna wrote:your proposal. i think you may be a gloater. not that that’s a bad thing; confidence is great-
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