Ranger HQ

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Doing my best here. It’s super late.

Horse and Toog are prob scum based on VCs

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Give me a bit. I am sleepy going to see if I can use VCA without having to claim your partner

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Do you have any PRs in addition to being with me?

Any reads or anything to catch up on?

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G is prob town or has skills to deep wolf.

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Shit

Infinity may be scum with horsewoman

And yes you do

Pretty sure I did too strong with infinity

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This post while it looks like a typo is actually a crumb if scum kill you tonight.

Then if I ever have to claim i quote that.

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You’re not being quick wagoned anymore so work here is done tonight.

Going to go to bed now. If you can push through the horse elim and we will sort stuff later.

Will check thread after work

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Meh not as sold on my team solve but Horse needs to be the elim. Even if she’s town.

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I don’t think she is but knowing there’s a deep wolf would be invaluable.

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Trying to reach out to Flea here.

Faer doing a lot of visual representation of owls so trying to be my old fashioned self and use the word hoot somehow as a clue to faer that I am town.

It may be possible flea is scum but I wanna elim buddies first

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You can do whatever you want. You’re conf town lol

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And it will be fine. If you die you flip ranger I just out my ranger crumb. It works both ways

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Did I do something wrong?

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Okay good glad I didn’t hurt you

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I was seeing if Infinity would react and who would defend Infinity.

Toog destroyed 90% of it by being a meanie pointing out my hypocrisy.

So horsewoman was town really really did not expect that

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Least not until end of day anyway.

Good news is I look like an idiot so less likely killed fuck.

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Mark sounds good for a motion detector or role cop and I am thinking JV or infinity for the other? Haven’t really had a chance to analyze and I have a ton of holiday stuff today and work tomorrow along with helping roomies prepare for their pandemic safe trip. So probably sheep whatever you say here.

One of us is probably dead tonight.

We also are going to have to play this close to the vest here. Most people don’t suspect masons and PRs. If we both live for some reason and have a guilty

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I think JV. No way infinity does the kill here being my tunnel.

VOTE: Rolecop/Track JV

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Rolecop/track JV

I can has typing skills lol

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I have to do holiday stuff now. Please let me know your thoughts and will respond as I can.

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you pick one or the other. u either track or rolecop.

Sent you a PM Nero.

Rolecop MarkyMark

I kinda agree on Mark?

Can you motion detector someone else as you’ll probably die so I can know his role for tomorrow?

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I want to have his role claim for tomorrow so I can evaluate and push him

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Btw if I die I will flip mason so just note my ranger typo crumb.

It would be considered a typo by someone unaware I doubt I die having wrong reads.

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If I die consider Infinity too. But for now just do a reset

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Correct. It is much more likely you do. But I was saying if.

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Realistically we’re looking at either DGB or Infinity scum based on VCA and an influential scum started pushing Horsewoman or all scum were invisible which is rare

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I will have to look late tonight sorry I didn’t get a chance to look over lunch break like I wanted

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Horse defense team

Noraa
DrippingGoofball
Infinity 324


Vaxkiller

Horse offense team

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Guillotina
Momrangal
JacksonVirgo
Marky Mark

No team/ coasters
Toogeloo
Flea the Magician
AGamblingPig


Okies, so I promises extensive isos but having a life is hard. I did manage to put things in groups though, so we'll have better clarity on where we could be at

It’s the holidays. Whatever you can do you can do. Don’t pressure yourself this is supposed to be fun.

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Marky Mark DGB may be a good scum team. This post is awkward.

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Mark definitely knows something about rangers imho.

This is weird. Definitely glad he’s the role cop tonight.

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If Marky is scum Noraa is town.
Scum don’t tend to intentionally connect that early.

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DBG is prolly town. It is investing way too much effort compared to scum games.

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G might be a traitor or deep wolf or neighborizer.

Future teammates is a weird word choice

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Stopped at page 14 on my read about halfway.

Need sleep sorry.

Gut says 80% Marky scum
50% infinity
40% G if traitor present
Unsure on the third

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Marky is vanilla. Interesting

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And we’re both alive

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I kinda wanna lurk this out to see who defends the FoS.

Because either Mark knows I am the mason and tried to kill me or something weird is up.

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Gut says Marky Mark is just giving me shade if he’s town because he knows I am the mason. If he’s scum he’s hunting

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Saw what I needed to.

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I think scum tried to kill me and failed ugh.

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G is PT cop or scum.

Crap

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Fuck I have to work. G is scum with Marky Mark pretty sure. Just how the F do I prove it?

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DGB has some juicy data. Interesting.

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Not so sure anymore. Meh wanna see what G does

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I like so many people for scum. This is a weird day.

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I kinda want G to claim but it may be stupid.

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What’s your result on DGB?

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What gift did you get?

Phone lag sorry.

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G and Noraa. Scum together probs

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Oh damn why’d the thread go quiet?

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G softed cop which is practically a guilty here so that’s fun.

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G + Noraa + Vax ? I echo your sentiments on Vax

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Mark could be scum but if he is he’s vanilla.
Would rather leave him alone.
Go after others. I kinda doubt it now

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I support a mass claim today

I support it only if you declare the order.

I still am we don’t need it.

And we stop soon as we get scum.

I think say we support you asking certain people then we decide if you’re the elim.

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I would rather limit it because then we can have protective on me without outing it and can role cop check each claim

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So have you heard of popcorn style?

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I am thinking we do modified popcorn.

We pick someone eg G or Noraa.
They suggest who they want to claim and why.
Then we either agree with it or move onto the other of G or Nora.
Have them say who should be next.

That way it’s a surgical strike of claims.
Not everyone spamming shit.

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You’ll have to be the face being the masons but I will cheerlead the idea

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Those names are just suggestions.

Would rather wait until after work to do it in about 4-5 hours if possible but if not I understand

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In my state of mind, I'm looking to push at a limited mass claim from a select group of people.

I was thinking of putting just mark on the spot and see what he does with that pressure. If he claims anything other than vanilla I can claim motion detector from there and push on the fact that there was motion on his slot.

I'm already partially outed, I don't think fully puting my role now wouldn't harm the game state and its more likely that scum in general claim a pr under that pressure

How good are you at lying?

If he lies claim Rolecop on him.

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I am the role cop but I am not CCing you.

I think G first pretend to believe it then Mark.

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I've definitely heard of popcorn style and I do think that the modified popcorn could work

Pedit: I once claimed scum in a hood and I weasled my way out of it for like 3 days soooo

Lmao I was mod confirmed once and got to Lylo.

I gotta go but I endorse whatever you do.

Just leave whatever finalized plan you want here so I can support it after work.

I gotta go.

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DBG is the protective prolly

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I do think going with the modified popcorn is the best way that go. I feel like scum is more likely found in the defenders so my priority will be there and then the rest of the stragglers.

I do think I want Guillotina to claim fairly early as well.

Gonna start with mark and Vax

K good luck.

If mark scum claims keep going pretend he isn’t caught.

Then when we are ready we dogpile on Mark

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I kinda think he is town though.

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Mark, Vax, Nora and G are the biggest focal points but before anything is done we need the posts from flea and pig.

I did get a light town ping from Pig and it leaves me thinking that there isn't scum in the coasting group at all which likely means 2 on the defense and 2 on the offense

What makes you say four scum and not three?

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Or he has something on you that proves your innocence

Nah I think it’s a genuine tr.

We’ve played together loads.

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He also knows I hate lying.

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I mean it could be but he was on the fence about you D1 and was poised to attack you if HW flipped town but he doesn't do that come D2. Instead, he says he doesn't agree with a mass claim and says he doesn't want you to get yourself into a 1v1 and forced into a claim

Yes. He did that.
I also could have slipped I am masons with you.

I really don’t think Infinity is scum without G as G softed cop.

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I don’t think he’s scum here.

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You're talking about the future self and future teammates post?

That I just misread lol

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I think infinity is town G is scum but not because of the future post

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I agree.

G is likely to claim cop here. They’ve been setting up for it in this and another post

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DBG, such a sly dawg... They're either the protective themselves or is another weak investigate (maybe watcher) and got something

Why I did the snowflake look at the avi of yours

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Yep agreed.

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You sure are talking about your inner voice alot

I know. I listen and honor my mom <3

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Mark being truthful here helps his case I think. There isn't really any way he could anticipate being RC'd

Agreed just how to get him to realize I am a mason

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I wonder if G will try to claim guilty on me this will be fun

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If he does I'm ignoring it and moving on to vax.

All the temper tantrums

I will tunnel him like a good sheep baaah

While you get claims.

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Thanks I couldn’t cover that trying not to be obvious.

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Either that or he’s so stubborn he doesn’t know what way is north.

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Likely he’s just caught.

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Agreed and so hard not to slip I am the mason helping you

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I mean if you ask me to claim I will lmao so glad no one can see my face

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Lol okay. This plan to out G is either brilliant or brilliantly dumb.

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If Guillotina is protective then I'm gonna shit myself

She’s not. She’s crumbed cop twice.

She claims or flips cop.

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How does town not see I am the other mason? Like how?

And sorry for springing a question in thread I just want to pretend like I am not asking you here. Lol

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We got like so many town out of it...can’t complain lol

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I'm being so non-reactivr to you in the game it's like rofl.

Ikr it’s like you don’t know me.

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Not sure what you mean by the first question.

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Lmao Nero I am postblocked by laughter

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Also, wtf do we do here math I'm beyond stunned

I am tunneling G here
DGB crumbed the protective and I trust it.
If not we have proof DGB is scum

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G would not be scumreading us if they protected us.

Pure a simple VT or scum.

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Aye, agreed.

Also nice on the santy clause assist

Yw

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Your wishes my wishes same thing who cares lmao

Cool role copping Nora tonight

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Hey share this to “the protective” if you can

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That way this ensures the role cop gets through on Nora

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If you disagree don’t not too attached

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Or at this rate the rolecop gets through on G.

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Hey inner voice
Nora or G?

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G it is.

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Say yes to Vax have him claim.

If we have to pivot we will

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I agree something is off here

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Pig is PGO prolly
Mentions of paranoid and guns. Short iso double check me?

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I don't think so. The only remote mention is if they wanted him out, he would have to be NKd or lynched plus he was non reactive to the big claim

Pig hasn’t been on since Vax’s claim

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363 paranoid
Later on guns blazing

It’s a pretty smart crumb

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Oh, no he hasn't but he hasn't shown any reaction towards vig either

He’s new he may not know better

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Then how would he know to crumb?

Interesting....
I wanna see what pig does

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Don’t kill me
Pig might be scum and G might be town here

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Hi mama ranger.

Call me papa ranger when you want me to claim.

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Actually I think I wanna claim here in a second.

I kinda have a good reason to do so here

Mason claims that could exist are relatively non existent.

I think I am outed by PoE anyway and just claim rolecop too then offer a once in a lifetime get out of jail free card to any fake claimers.

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What do you think mama ranger?

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I was gonna call on you after I get the two want.

Plus, I have a little song I want to do.

I think we can hold on to the RC after we get all the claims but having a large vt pool makes it rather nicr

I don’t think we are getting all the claims today. I think do one that you want DGB then infinity then me then the last. Don’t wanna make it obvious DGB is the protective here

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Then after the last I claim role cop too

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Hmmm... That's fair but we do need to do a hard recalibrate

We do but I think we actually might want infinity’s claim first

I think I am back to infinity scum mainly because so few players fit as scum.

Kinda down for finishing it out

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Or better yet we just claim joint powers. We don’t say who is the motion detector and who is the RC?

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What was the exact image a basket?

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Jackson's got it but he's still so adorably lost

He knows we’re the masons now FINALLY!

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Possibly

I am back to G scum but don’t wanna say it yet

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I mean I feel it. These theories are so far fetched it's like golly.
He's got me so spun around I feel like it may be a good idea if we both target him tonight in the chance that one of us die in the night

That’s useless.

I target G you target G, you get a motion result from me lol.

I agree if G isn’t elimmed they are likely rolecop.

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Motion detect JV tonight.

One shot Vig he can’t move.

I rolecop G.

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He goes from crumbing cop, to claiming vt to saying we're fishing for cop because they are the only one who can catch us in this lie. Not to mention the amount of time he keeps saying he can't be scum with x because associations don't match?

More like scum setting up a future guilty.

Gut feeling that’s what it is.

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I think that trying to fry too many fish.

Focus on pig we can sort it out tonight

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You didn't revote him

That’s intentional.

Still making use of this day.

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That's fair. I'm feeling restless I guess. Ready for a scum flip

Me too but don’t want to torpedo it in the foot.

We get pig they flip scum then we get Vax and G.
I think that’s the team.
It explains Vax’s claim and Pig’s crumbs
And explains G’s insistence on not elim’ing Pig while still maintaining credibility if Vax is flipped.

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Pig is important I just don’t know why.

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Noraa if scum is looking for an out.

I want to see them hang themselves

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Hammer time!

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DG blocks G or Nora or Infinity all of which not antitown
Flea visits PGO. If it confirms PGO then we got something to go with.
You motion detect whoever besides G.
I rolecop G.

Sound like a plan?

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And don’t do Vax either.

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Go get a snack momma. You’ve earned a breather.

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But I'll miss the flip!

If pig flips town here I may as well drop dead though

We’ll have 48 hours ish...chill chica

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And if pig flips town it’s like a VT flip.

He’s not reading so he’s not going to make the right heal ever.

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And pig was scum.

Checkmate.

VOTE: Rolecop G

If he’s not VT it’s as good as a scum claim.

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Rolecop G

Fuck yeah.

Also down to role cop Noraa actually but G would make me feel better.

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Actually motion detect Noraa.

We can confirm if DGB visits one or if it’s a bus.

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So kills

I or you are probably dead barring DGB saving our assets or DGB + JV team.
The latter quite frankly is ridiculous.

If you get a guilty stall until the guilty party comes on.

Flea if he trusts me mechanically confirms Vax as PGO. Work with that. Vax maybe scummy but there’s at least one other scum. See who he doesn’t vote.

If I die and no motion on Noraa that means Vax may be doing kills.

If Vax is scum he’s doing kills.

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I really think Vax is town here but with Pig flipping going seals it.
Pig was claiming to try to get Vax quick elimmed.

I think G or Nora have to do the kill here and likely maybe I should track instead? But nah scum prolly have ninja to balance.

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Whoever you wanna motion detect I am down for.

I am prolly dead tbh. I forgot to fake claim motion detector and you rolecop

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I've been playing this entire game with the assumption of three scum what is wrong with me lolol

Pedit: we left our powers ambiguous which is prolly better

Hope DBG gets lucky a second time around but if she doesn't, she has an innocent

Yeah let’s hope it gets lucky.

Three scum or four yeah.

Well not really. It’s kinda obvious I have been making some of the mechanical decisions. It’s why G is pushing me so hard. I am bad at being a cheerleader and obviously doing these plans.

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3 or 4 scum in a 13p?

Default 3. 4 if town is op. I would do ninja, investigative, goon maybe with traitor maybe not.

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It’s okay us old foagies are good from time to time.

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So I failed my cooking check sorry for the delay.

With pig flipping goon Vax is probably town.

Then we are looking for two more scum in the VT claims unless Flea is investigative + vendor. It’s possible since we are pluses.

Tomorrow I will be afk a lot and since day start is X mas likely not available at flip so tonight gonna try to do some VCA.

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It’s possible but more than likely a coached fish.

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G had the same hallmarks of cop fake crumb in Pig’s

G Vax and Pig would likely have to be scum together.
It’s possible buuuut....

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Hey would you like immediate night or long night?

I kinda want to not have day start on Christmas if at all possible.

Thanks

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Alrighty. I will send that to Nero yay insomnia

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Sorry my bad I thought you wanted a PM doh!

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Btw if we’re both alive tomorrow slow roll it. We will want to fake each others roles.

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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays mom.

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Yessss

motion detect: nora

Rolecop G

Fuck yeah.

Also down to role cop Noraa actually but G would make me feel better.

Making life easy on Nero later

Last solve is probably G Nora Pig

Gl hf

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^^ this assumes I die

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Something is up here.

Scum either killed flea to make Vax look like a PGO
Or Vax is a PGO and kill was blocked.

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I think let’s see and play this out.

Confirming G much as I don’t like their read is the right call.

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Maybe, idk.

Do we know if you get a vanilla read on goon?

Yeah but two goons doesn’t make sense for setup remember

Possible but doubt it.

Mainly gotta find ninja which is probably Nora.

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Correct. Makes me think that either the other buddy did the kill and maybe ninja?

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Hmmm it’s possible our setup spec is bad and G is just scum but I doubt it.

Something is going on.

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Infinity claimed protective I kinda wanna elim Nora.

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Give me a bit of leeway just seeing how Nora responds. I didn’t lie but I didn’t exactly tell the truth either

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Also, it's not gonna be confirmed because fleas role pm says basket gifter

You were gifted an image. We never said that.

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I see your G read.

Could be G + Nora + one more maybe

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G+Nora+DGB?

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I don't think we have 4 scum tho. That's a road to go down when we get there

If three scum G is a goon which by default makes G town.

If four scum G can be scum which makes his play

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So DGB + Nora scum team looks like.

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Fuck we’re probably going to have to elim Vax to prove DGB scum

Damn it

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Ready to spin the game on it’s head?

Getting ready to claim you and I are in MD/RC/Neopolitan.

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Fuck it mama forgive me.

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Whelp I done did a thing. I think me asking too many questions broke things. Whoops.

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Yeah he’s being weird

Now we’re back to Vax getting the message which can be verified.

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Don’t bother with that.

I have a rep of being bad town mom.

Don’t make the thread toxic I just ignore it. I can take it.

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I mean, it was a mod error. He was clearly visited it sucks to get a confirmation that way but oh well.

Also, play wise, I really don't thing DBG and Nora are partners this game. DBG was at Nora's behind all game and the way Nora reacts to it, and the way she's reacting to us doesn't make sense. She's expecting us to be able to clear her regardless of whatever investigate we have which means she is either town, or maybe asectic but how would ascetic work with all three of our investigative actions?

Ascetic is impossible. We’d get no result.

I don’t think she expects us to clear her.

Play wise I think Nora+DGB+G makes a lot of sense.

I am just trying to figure out how three scum left fits and who it is if two scum. By play it’s Noraa and G.

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I'm sure you can, but it isn't all on you, and guillotina doesn't have a right to be attacking you the way he is. I think he was my old mentor but idk, the personality is there but it isn't just you making these pushes.you have merit as a player, even though you do occasionally spiral down in mafia conspiracy theories but tbh who doesn't

I do just ugh. I am used to it. I just have to obv Town

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Marky
Vax
Infinity

Nora
Guillotina
JV

DBG

That's where my reads are lining up at. I am honestly entertaining a DBG/JV scum team. That's the team that makes the most sense play wise

Sell me.

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I don’t agree with you tbh but sell me

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JV claiming one shot vig as scum with DGB doesn’t make sense.
This means scum either A) intentionally shot Toog only or B) JV is a one shot vig scum who shot Toog.

Togo’s reads didn’t warrant that.

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I mean like, DBG has been pushing nora all day as scum for the past two days. Yesterday they played protown, the definitely did play pro town and pig may not have gotten lynched if it wasn't for them
That gives them a shit ton of town credit, the kind of credit that scum is looking for to gain to bring their team to victory. She pushed for the mass claim to see where she could go, and to have visibility on her end but that was going to be a double edged blade regardless.

DBG may have bussed all of her buddies and Nora may be playing into their theatrics but at the end of the day, they can only guess what kind of investigative we are. Despite that, nora is insisting that we should be able to outright clear her.

Today, they say they blockrd Guillotina and are pushing for vax. They are setting up for a Guillotina lynch down the line but of they knew that G was going to flip scum why wouldn't they push on that lynch?

It feels like DBG is setting mislynches up which means that the people they are pushing aren't likely scum which means that scum are outside of her pushes

Infinity, JV, Mark.

Mark, is IIOA capital and I just want to think it could be him BUT the way he claimed his role gives me a strong semi-clear.

JV claimed one shot vig and claimed the kill just before DBG claimed that they had information on the missing kill. It could have been orchestrated and because he is no longer a vig, if we decided to cop him, we would likely end up with a camper tag so that's a way out for him.

I don’t think DBG is scum without Noraa and or G here.

Scum can brazenly claim they should be cleared that doesn’t make them town.

If DGB is setting up a miselim on G it’s because it’s with Nora or Infinity not JV

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What else could holding back our claims get us?

I'm trying to figure it out because scum already know where investigative and their roles could clue them in to the type of investigative.

They already probably figured were at least RC.

Maybe we should claim RC/Tracker?

A scum who doesn’t know what we can do lies.

I don’t think we claim the tracker but we claim one of the invests is a rolecop if we do any at all.

And you’d be the one to say it not me. That way scum try to kill you hopefully

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Infinity is holding onto protective pretty hard.

What if the only scum counter was DBGs RB?

Mechanically that’s what I think. That + ninja

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I was thinking I claim RC and you claim tracker because we feel like they are more scared of the RC over motion detect or tracker but then, they would be forced to choose which investigative is the scarier one and if one of us dies, we will know for sure what scum are scared of. If I claim RC and die then likely the spec is right. If you die, then they aren't scared of RC which means scum is telling the truth on their roles

I think I claim motion detector you claim RC is better. I disagree with your logic.

If Role-cop claim dies they fear being copped. I don’t see how you’re getting that sorry

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They fear being copped over bring tracked which means that scum have a way to evade watcher/tracker/motion detector

If they don't fear being copped that means they are telling the truth and are worried about being watched/tracked/motion detected

I think they fear both.

One is true claiming powers the other fears tracked.

If two scum ^^

I think we just swap roles but omit the tracker part from rolecop.

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Go ahead and post first I will follow up.

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Swing and a hit.

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I kinda hate infinity’s reaction
I wonder if he is deep wolfing

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Giving him the option to claim now.

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I kinda suspect infinity with my gut but I think I have indigestion.

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She does.

Mainly I wanna either flip Vax or Noraa here.

I think we determine invests based on flip and who votes where.

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Nora eliminates potential ninjas

Who else besides Nora?

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Vote whoever I need a breather

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I hate it. We learn nothing from a Vax elim as mechanically Vax is very likely town.

I’ll hammer it but I hate that elim.

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Rolecopping Noraa likely confirms what’s already known that she has to be a ninja by PoE as we don’t scumread infinity. I hate it

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It really doesn’t. It just a day where we elim town.

I will do it but I just hate it.

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Vax is scum here possibly.

Why can’t he just say he got a picture?

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We can give him 24 hours there’s no harm.

You’re probably right.

But during that time we can strategize last scum.

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Does what Vax sent match?

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If it does I think I am right for holding out and want to do G.

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So G then?

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Kinda think Nora and G.

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Me too

Nora + DGB possible too.

Nora claimed no role back so yeah DGB may block you and kill me lol XD that’s not ideal.