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Post #4 (isolation #1) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:48 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
The Town
imaginality
Lukewarm
Toogeloo
Everyone Else
numberQ
Tanner - public datisi alt
DArby
Aristeia
VP Baltar
implosion
I have played with Datisi and Ari once each (possibly more with Ari if my main guess is correct, but I am never confident in those so not commenting on that) (and Toog. Hi Toog!
I have never encountered the rest of the player list before x.x
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Post #5 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:51 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
At the Gate, one Guardian player is chosen by the Saboteurs overnight to be publicly confirmed as a Guardian. The Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Wall, there are no special rules. Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Keep, Guardians must vote on one player. If that player is a Guardian, the Guardians wins; otherwise, the Saboteurs win.
Gate is a 50/50. Will always result in a cross vote between scum and a townie, with the other townie having hammer power. 1v1
Wall is 33/66 basic Elo. This is the game most in our favor
Keep is a 66/33 reverse elo. This is the game least in our favor. You don't just have to be town read, you have the be The Most Town Read.
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Post #6 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:51 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
At the Gate, one Guardian player is chosen by the Saboteurs overnight to be publicly confirmed as a Guardian. The Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Wall, there are no special rules. Guardians must vote to eliminate the Saboteur to win.
At the Keep, Guardians must vote on one player. If that player is a Guardian, the Guardians wins; otherwise, the Saboteurs win.
Gate is a 50/50. Will always result in a cross vote between scum and a townie, with the other townie having hammer power. 1v1
Wall is 33/66 basic Elo. This is the game most in our favor
Keep is a 66/33 reverse elo. This is the game least in our favor. You don't just have to be town read, you have the be The Most Town Read.
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Post #7 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:52 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
My intention as town was going to be to automatically lock myself into the Keep in my first post, but we can chat about that since I am actually scum lmao
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Post #8 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:52 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
My intention as town was going to be to automatically lock myself into the Keep in my first post, but we can chat about that since I am actually scum lmao
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Post #13 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:01 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
Yeah, when I say locked in early, I don't mean all on the first page. just that they were some of the earliest to have a reason to lock into a place. And that very much worked in their favor in the end.
The third locked in on like page 30 something. So they didn't really hard rush it. sorry if unclear
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Post #12 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:01 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
Yeah, when I say locked in early, I don't mean all on the first page. just that they were some of the earliest to have a reason to lock into a place. And that very much worked in their favor in the end.
The third locked in on like page 30 something. So they didn't really hard rush it. sorry if unclear
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Post #14 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:03 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
Although, if I were town this game, I would have locked in first post.
Wondering if I still should, cause that is what town luke would have done, or if you think I should just hold off anyways. That was more of a me thing, then a team thing lol
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Post #17 (isolation #12) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:06 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
Basically, in the last game I wanted to be in the keep, but then didn't get it, and then was the losing vote at the wall. So I had intended to just strong arm my way into the keep this game lol
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Post #20 (isolation #14) » Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:20 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
I witnessed the greatest scum game I have seen to date in the original guardians game. Ydra was magnificent. (She was playing as a Briar alt, but revealed herself mid game Incase either of you or Prism want to look at her play.)
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Post #26 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:08 am
Postby Lukewarm »
In post 2, Prism wrote:There exists an important exception to the above: The player chosen by the Saboteurs to be publicly revealed as a Guardian may continue to post after the resolution of their minigame at the Gate.
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Post #30 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:32 am
Postby Lukewarm »
My goal of that post, is to possibly look like I want to buddy/pocket you in the keep. So like, something for after I flip. You being in the keep with me is not the worst thing, but I was not actually trying to get you to go in right this second
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Post #31 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:41 am
Postby Lukewarm »
Also, btw - scum luke would want town toog in the keep with me if possible, because in the last game you and I played together where I was scum, I was your number one strongest town read.
So, maybe it wouldn't play out the same, but looking at a player list full of people I don't know, you would be my pocket target in the keep.
So, that is maybe something to have in the back of your mind if I flip first tomorrow
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Post #34 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:49 am
Postby Lukewarm »
This set up has less punishment for being suspicious of your partners I think? Because you will never be in a situation to have to vote for them, like ever
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Post #37 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:29 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
One of the best things that I think we can do is just make sure that we are all staying active. Like, I would love for all three of us to be in the top half of posters this game!
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Post #41 (isolation #25) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:50 am
Postby Lukewarm »
So, I kinda don't think that me and ara can both end up at the keep. Whether that means me swapping out or her swapping out, i don't know. But I don't think that we can end up together :/
The moment that she locked in, I knew that it was because she thought I was scum and just saying that it was because of tanner wanting to be in the keep with Tanner. She decided that I was scum making a play, and put herself there to vote against me in the minigame.
Ari, underneath that alt character, is very good at this game
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Post #42 (isolation #26) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:52 am
Postby Lukewarm »
I think I have thrown her off of me some what, but I think that she is still likely to avoid the keep voting me. Either, she will try and get the other person to vote her, or will just vote that other person if she can't do it.
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Post #44 (isolation #28) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:54 am
Postby Lukewarm »
I actually think we might need to try and swap her into which ever game is going to resolve first or let her stay in the keep if we think it will resolve first
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Post #53 (isolation #30) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:11 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
Also, don't let my post frequency fool you - I am actually not all that good at this game I don't think. I have won a single scum game and then lost 3.
The main thing that I bring to the table is a bottomless well of WIM. I will be near the top of the post count from the start of the game til the moment I die, and people scum reading me results in unbelievably detailed wall posts.
Strategy, A Plan, anything like that - not this boy. I am free flying out there just making as much content as I can, hoping to make isoing me post flip a Nightmare, and *maybe* have some false associatives along the way.
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Post #55 (isolation #32) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:25 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
In post 49, imaginality wrote:Wary of making Ari IC if she's as good as Luke reckons
I kinda wish Ari was a public alt, but I double checked and it is not.
I will say though, in our last game together, I was impressed with their reads. Like Prism (Hi mod!) repped in and promptly pocketted me, and Ari instantly spotted it
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Post #60 (isolation #35) » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:47 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
It is possible that it worked in our favor?
I was thinking, and I might actually be able to stay in the keep ?? if we have a scummy option to send to the keep with me and Ari, we can just give them hammer power. If we can make it look like a "3 town made it into the keep, so they had to swap someone in" kinda thing
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Post #87 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:22 am
Postby Lukewarm »
I think that I like the DArby Implo swap. At that point, it think that all 3 games are 50/50 1v1s
DArby swapping into the keep would also kind of explain why "no one was jumping to go to that last slot" because DArby was not here for some of that, and maybe the scum team was just accepting that the "Dead weight" would just go to the game scum was going to lose anyways.
The down side of that being that who ever replaces DArby, or hell, DArby himself, we kind of have no idea where he would lean between Ari or Me
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Post #88 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:25 am
Postby Lukewarm »
I think that in that scenario, I lean into the idea that I am sure that Ari is the town between DArby and Ari, and ask if I should just vote Ari. Then (hopefully) the DArby replacement is worried and asks for vote control.
That is the best way I see to make sure that DArby's replacement gets vote control, and has a favorable view of me because I was offering to vote.
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Post #99 (isolation #44) » Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:06 am
Postby Lukewarm »
I think that implo should always swap out. But who comes in his place is not super important to me I guess
I think that if inplonstays, the keep is always lost.
And I think that we should be aiming for a chance at each one, admitting defeat on any game seems dangerous because they both other games are must wins, which is hard to guarantee.
The issue I see is that Ari and inplo are my top two town reads, so of they are both there then I automatically become the voter
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Post #107 (isolation #48) » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:47 am
Postby Lukewarm »
No, we have just been friendly.
And I think he is inclined to town read me on effort. So I think I am gonna do a reread over the night phase, and have notes on everyone, and I think that plus offering to vote for Ari could do it
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Post #110 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:01 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
Hello. This is probably too late, but my re-read got delayed because of the holiday.
in my iso notes, I found a good angle to press Tanner I think, so I am posting it tomorrow regardless as part of my "night time notes" - This can either be used as a "why would luke case tanner so hard if he knew tanner was getting the ic" to help me, or it couldbe used to miselim tanner.
If either of you are on, I am here to talk about it. But I think it works to help us win a game either way!
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Post #120 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:59 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
I think that me having a case on Tanner, and then him promptly being IC'd is decent towards me winning the keep.
I lean hard into Ari being town in my iso notes, and I think that Pav is always the voter. I think it can sway Pav.
But I might could do that with who ever the IC is, as long as Pav is swapped for Ari.
I am much less confident in my game if I dont get pav, but we dont have to win all three, so if you think you can both win another way, then doing something different is not the worst thing
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Post #125 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:12 pm
Postby Lukewarm »
I have you lean scum and toog lean town. Hope that vibes with you both
You actually have a section of saying that I have worries, but I don't think you are ever partnered with tanner, so that pulls you more town - my conclusion with you in null. But once tanner is IC'ed, you obviously go back to scum lean.