NQN2 -- Maurice's Pizza and Money Laundering

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Monk

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Spoiler:

mafia monk

You are a

Mafia Monk

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As a mafioso, you can talk anytime with your partners,

Cat Scratch Fever, mastina and Enchant

, in Maurice's Pizza and Money Laundering.

Two nights out of each set of three (1/2/3, 4/5/6, etc.), you may collectively choose one member to kill another player. If you submit kills during the first two nights of each block of three, on the third night you will not be able to kill. Members may kill and use another night action in the same night.

As a Monk, you may visit and post in Brightridge Monastery at any time. You know that your fellow Monks,

Tracer Bullet and Save The Dragons

, are guaranteed not to be werewolves, as such fell beasts could not survive the purification rituals involved in your initiation. However, it is possible that the mafia may have infiltrated your ranks.

You win when more than 50% of living players are mafia.

Please confirm by PMing me your alignment and, if any, partners.

The game thread is here.

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I'm under a microscope by STD and Tracer Bullet this game. I'm semi trolling in the Monkery, I guess try to just act as you normally would, and be careful with any ties towards me because I will be going down sometime this game. I will be leaving a lot of strings for people to attach and misfade, but we do have to worry about wolves.

We know those 2 aren't wolves. I imagine a Wolf is in a Masonry with 2 others.

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oh wow, i forgot you were my teammate.

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I actually do think Catboi has some wolf equity.

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I've been semi acting like I'm a Cop since that naturally gives protection from wolf kills and might out an actual cop.

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Well Done probably a Mason

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I've been semi acting like I'm a Cop since that naturally gives protection from wolf kills and might out an actual cop.

You failing, Cop never so obvious.

i want that exact WIFOM with it

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I have bussed in every single scum game I have been in with you Mastina, so yeah, feel you would always be pushing that bus play. No worries at all if you want to heat that up ever. This Monkery of mine called me lock scum before I even got in there.

I'm generally an anti-bus, but your natural reads/play towards my slot are just always solid to push since I dont think anybody expects me to defend against it either.

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Thanks, TB for letting me get into this game deeper.

A circular arguing match generally is just gonna do well especially if they let me fabricate puffing up the chest.

It's an in-game persona.

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It's good to protect personal playstyle.

It's like when I stood by my Anti Bus meta for 2 years, so when I broke it, it's much more effective.

I actually do believe in Anti-Bus if you can help it, and will hard defend partners if I can do it.

It's not exactly the same, but there's strong merit in protecting your playstyle, and frankly, I think Mastina's mastered who they are as a player well.

This is basic, and might not even be a reason, but yeah, PYP.

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but that's just my thoughts, and they dont need to answer if they don't feel like sharing. Not speaking for them, I couldn't even if I wanted to.

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casowary is the exact type of read I'm trying to get from a group of players atm.

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Not gonna lie, super happy about that TB replacement.

TB in my Monk thread was rough to deal with.

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I’m just gonna town read most people in hopes I’m town reading a wolf or two.

The goal is for wolves not to see us as threat, but we get wolves faded.

Multiball is hard.

Can play it anyway, but yeah, I don’t plan to bus this game unless I really have to.

Survive at all costs until late game where we can dominate the day thread is strong.

Misfades are easy since wolves will want them too.

If we don’t bus, it’s insanely hard for us to be faded since townies and wolves would have to get on us, and generally wolves won’t.

A little town read can go a long way.

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I really do think Catboi is a wolf. Remember not to call anybody wolves specifically, though, not until later in the game.

They're tiptoeing it well. I might be able to get a claim out of them.

Interested who protects them.

Menalque/Nashville I do not believe are wolves with them.

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Well, that should be plenty of work for me.

I'm getting well town read, but I am afraid of getting killed off by Wolves, especially if I'm correct with Catboi.

WallFlower flipping Wolf would luckily not incriminate me since I'm a Monk, so it's incredibly safe for me to defend WallFlower so hard.

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@cephir

- how would you write a Town monk miller?

Miller Monk or Monk Miller?

probably wont claim it, but it's definitely in the back of my mind....unfortunately that would out me to wolves most likely if it's a symmetrical setup at all.

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Yeah, i liked the enchant-FL comment.


I’ve kinda avoided mentioning Mastina/Enchant much because I don’t know how to do so naturally, which might be in character

Plus, i think people expect me to mention my partners, and I’m throwing around a lot of town reads.

I agree with that Norwegian read.

Poor WallFlower has all 4 of us in their town reads. I wonder if there’s merit in them being scum because of it, but i have been genuinely reading them as town.

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If I ever go down, Mastina will likely get town spewed, or at least not Mafia.

I'm more just worried about wolf shot, which I think Well Done let me hide a little behind, but idk.

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Dunnstral/Lukewarm combination is a pretty strong hydra. Dunnstral with natural gut scum reads, and Lukewarm able to explain them well. If it was later in the game, might be harder to fight, but they popped it out too early.

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I'm lucky these last few Well Done cases are all stuff I do as town, and they don't realize it.

Makes it super easy to argue against.

Did get annoyed at having to repeat the same thing over and over since they legitimately are ignoring some stuff, but the emotion was genuine, i think it'll pick up.

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You've been doing well, Cat Scratch. Probably much better than I have been.

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Lol, Mastina's my partner, I had no intention of fully pushing that through ;P

That'll be a surprise post game for them.

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Can you throw a little more suspicion on Catboi?

I was expecting a Catboi turn. Kinda happy Mastina didn't log on last night because I was playing in a way where I was pulling in Well Done, Catboi, and Mastina onto me, but didn't expect Well Done and Cat to be here same time.

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So Catboi is right for wrong reasons, which is solid to defend against.

Menalque is a danger, though, because they'll be loud about it.

Honestly, might be a decent kill, Menalque. Bnuuy wagon proved they're one that can go up and derail momentum. I can handle Well Done/Catboi.

My Monk claim in the back pocket should get me a get out of jail free card for the most part.

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Unfortunate for Catboi we’ve never interacted that much before. They’re going about the push the wrong way.

And frankly, i think this game is gonna be about setting up Mastina as well as we can over the next couple days, maybe I go down Day 3, and then the game is hers to run, tbh.

Danger is a wolf kill to her, but the two of you aren’t under any major suspicion, although it could change.

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I might think Catboi is town now, though. Not fully convinced, but I do think he's town with a gut scum read, and they're really trying to explain it.

Day 1 is so easy for scum to break cases because there's not really an accurate case.

Yes, I am doing this stuff because I am scum. But without anything to back it up further, it's just a gut scum read at the end of the day. They're trying to explain why for things I truly do as NAI. Butterchurn hit the nail on the coffin. I do the same thing as both alignments, but it is definitely how I am doing it.

It's just unfortunate for Catboi they've never interacted with me on a personal level, and small game sample before because all the stuff they know about me is said through other people's opinions on what my scum play is like.

It's not the challenge, I like.

It's the story. The story is the part that excites me as scum, but the story has to make sense.

I don't do things like push Masons simply for the fact I want to flip a Mason. I do it to help my chances at winning. Above all else, I am a competitive fucker who cares way too much about winning while I'm in the game.

But post game, maybe after a little salt from losing, I'm still gonna clap for the winners, still happy for the winners.

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we should make a kill that benefits Mastina tonight.

I can argue with people, and it wont spew them as town because multiball.

Catboi, unfortunate for them, is stuck in a net since one of their main reasons was my push on Mastina.

I think it's so hard to see the two of us as scum partners.

SP3-kkoba, while town reading me now, will push me relentlessly if they dont like a read by me.

So Menalque, Catboi, Well Done, SP3 make a gamestate where I go to late game not the best play.

But let's try for Day 3. I get to lurk out a little bit more.

if I get guiltied Day 2, yeah, let it happen. It'll out whoever got the guilty as a threat, and if any of us get guiltied, I'm the best one to do so.



I have wanted to play a setup me to get bussed first game for a while now, and i think this is probably a good game for it.

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Dkkoba's like Mathblade and Pooky for me, they're all just gonna push me regardless of what alignment I rolled.

Sometimes they get lucky and I'm actually scum.

I'm more impressed when people can town read me correctly.

I don't hide the fact that I'm scum when I'm scum more than I have to.

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Yeah, Dwlee being WallFlower if that's true is wild.

I really don't wanna play with Dkkoba right now

might end up actually being able to lurk.

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I still think catboi is scum - they're being weirdly appeasing to Koba

yeah, they've been doing it all game to people that go their way.

Make sure to refer to them as SP3 not Koba, in case it's not outed in game thread, dont want that slip to happen cuz i told you.

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Koba's getting suspicious of Menalque. Might try to setup a 1v1 between them.

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Let's fade me Day 2.

I would stay clear of directly fake guiltying me since I did that in the last game Mastina and I were scum in, but I think if the tides going to me on Day 2, it could be good to bus me Day 2. Mastina gets spewed as not Mafia.

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"enchant/mena/cass/catboi - mafia

butter/tictac/klick/bunny - wolf

i think those are solid guesses for teams"


where SPC is right now.

I think we can get Catboi.

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Up to you.

I’m trying to make sure i mention you a few times just if we go through with the bussing play.

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Yeah, Catboi not being able to pick up more votes is likely partners just not bussing him. I am reading them as wolf for sure.

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Have a claim ready, Enchant.

You might get ran up heavily.

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If that’s your claim, then yeah, sure.

I just do feel like your wagon’d going to gain some momentum.

We’re tied together, so 1 of us go down, we both probably do.

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You would be claiming VT, I’m assuming?

Just if you get ran up to like E-3/E-2

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if enchant goes down, you guys are playing as 2 for the rest of the game because I'm definitely going down with them.

I'm gonna do my best to make sure Enchant doesnt go down, though.

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I don't have time to respond rn since im at work but I see you're pushing a me and catboi team

Do you want me to be scummy for a bus or are we still pushing catboi through

I think Catboi is a good fade for the day. Other fades are fine, but SPC pushing you and Enchant is rough. Luckily the way they case doesn't get people to follow.

I would prefer not to bus, but because of my Enchant tie I have to.

If Catboi picks up steam, I think you hopping on is okay, and could look like a bus vote. Eh, you voting Catboi could look like a bus vote whenever now since we just talked about the pairing.

I would say don't be scummy on purpose, though.

Feel whatever's natural for you.

If you claim FN, you'll go down eventually, but it will get you through this day phase.

Rough spot is, when I was scum with SPC, I told them to claim FN and we played a Weak FN gambit and won as scum, so they might tie us through that game.


Frankly, I kinda wanna kill SPC, and then take the heat for it tomorrow, but killing a Monk isn't amazing for us.

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That's a kill Mastina would never make either.

Silversmith is fine, i think.

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lol catboi's such a wolf.

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they're trying to back it up, solid angle, but I do believe WallFlower and I have a really strong case against him.

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nah, i think theyre town here for sure.

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Wolves are all over that wagon trying to save Catboi.

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Norwegian has some wolf equity for this push.

I don’t wanna say that in game thrrad, but yeah

Norwegian-Catboi is likely.

Their light pushing on each other, and Norwegian’s push onto Nashville is really distant partnery.

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yeah, norwegian definitely seems to be ready to call you out. frankly, a big reason i think he could be scum is he's been defending me a lot in ways idk if he should be.

i wouldn't put stock in that read, but i wouldnt be surprised if they flipped scum.

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idk if anyone is necessarily but Enchant, but my ISO defending you ties you to me.

Ydrasse makes things easier than Norwegian, I feel. Still a solid kill. Norweg slot or Catboi

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the manic post is definitely true, but i take a break, and the catboi wagon went even more away.

But i dont think we need catboi fade by any means.

Bnuuy's fine to fade.

I think Day 2 is good.

I'll fight against my fade, but I might try to make SPC scum read me more tomorrow, and tie myself to another player.

People generally like to forget Day 1's as the game goes on.

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As long as I get flipped sometime, and Mastina doesn't get scum shot, which her role helps, but limited.

I think it's time to end day 1, though.

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Mind boggling people's opinion on wagon analysis, but hey, end of the day, that goes in our favor.

Cat Scratch Fever is pretty rough by it right now, and Enchant/Mastina haven't voted, i believe.

We're protected from pushes either way, but still.

If I ever go down, it can always be pushed that I was actively tying Enchant to me, but idk if this playerlist wont just see what's right in front of them and go for it, but yeah. i'll likely try to find someone to tie myself to further.

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Yeah, I really don't understand how Catboi was getting upset with WallFlower. They were making actual cases is the only thing I can think of and Catboi was probably feeling cornered, so i dont think Catboi is not upset, but give it to me, not WallFlower.

I'm not one to talk, but i'm just trying to do it for research purposes.

Titus coming to the same conclusion as I did with the Vote Count analysis does make me feel Catboi is wolf.

If we looking to wolf hunt, dwindle their numbers, I think that's a better kill than Ydrasse slot, who I'm not fully convinced is a wolf. I do think Norwegian is probably town. I'm pushing in my monkery like I have a gut scum read on ydrasse, but she'll follow me from time to time.

Unless Ydrasse is a threat to Mastina too, but I imagine not nearly as much as Norwegian would be to Mastina specifically.

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yeah, if you can keep yourself from getting desensitized, i think you're far better off from it.

i promise im not a complete sociopath in real life, only in active games in forum mafia.

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I think ydrasse softed my role but for wolf btw

which post?

And i totally didnt realize your actual role is Friendly Neighbor basically, for specific alignment. yeah, that might be scum indicative.

hmm.

back to thinking she could be scum then.

is it the mason's comment with the 'atp', assuming at the present.

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Yeah that. I think atp means "at that point"

Also 3699 flavor wise feels very similar to my role

You are 100% right.

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If the setup is symmetrical, do you want to use your action still? it might come across as scummy if Ydrasse flips scum.

it's possible that's a town role as well, though, but yeah.


either way, she's likely to get positioned as not Mafia.

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If we kill Catboi, i think their flip will help us.

Janitor shot might be good to hold for a later night.

But yeah, coming up with a plan night phase is on who to kill is probably best depending on gamestate.

SPC is likely gonna tunnel me tomorrow

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Hmm, maybe just play it straight if you have to then. But probably won’t have to claim this day phase.

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the tic tac read is genuine. i do believe they are town.

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Toogeloo is on Mastina's threat list. This is a good wagon for us, and we can kill Catboi, and then I can get scum read for it probably, even though I might be able to continue going a bit.

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Eh, toogeloo can be a d2/d3 fade too. Worried D1 flip will get Mastina scumread a bit more now.

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Yeah, Toogs can go through now.

Let's see if they're wolf. I dont think so, it's not impossible, but yeah.

This not too bad. I dont think any of us but Mastina on the wagon.

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It's fine if I get vigged, so not too worried.

Someone needs to hammer toogeloo, I think.

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I'd rather a vig hit me than Mastina because it would out Mastina's defense.

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nah, it's good. Can you join on Catboi? I think we can make it happen now. Dont want to risk shooting if he's the same role as Mastina, then we can use the janitor.

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I am definitely taking a break after this game.

I know I'm posting too much, but yeah.

I'm essentially at home writing for work on my computer all day for freelance gigs/my stories, and when I try to close the page, the impulsive urges to come back come over.

I truly do apologize to you all. It will not be this way after Day 1 is over.

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Titus doesn't get the credit for how strong of a player she actually is.

I'm scum and I want to listen to her.

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I'm probably gonna hammer if Toog gets to E-1.

With any luck, I'll just get vigged.

do we think it's possible Catboi is Mastina's role? They made a post about scum will just be killing them, and idk if that's to try to get scum to night kill them.

I imagine there's multiple scenarios for a kill to to happen. with the only 2 of 3 night kills. Definitely need to kill Night 1, I think. I can make it if we want to save that Janitor. I saw it only hides role not alignment, so idk if it's necessary.

If any of us are outed, it should be me getting guiltied/vig.

My flip in theory should benefit our team greatly.

As soon as SPC made that Mastina should be vigged comment, I knew I had to peacock to not out her defense early, but it really depends on who the vig would be.

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So I have 2 major threats this game: Dunnstral and Klick.

I actively pushed Dunnstral for "should knowing my scum game"

Here's the thing. He does. And he always does know I'm scum. One of the best gut reads on my slot I've ever seen throughout my entire experience with the exceptions of maybe Something Smart and Krazy.

Klick has me pegged to a T.

Great work by them.

Flavor Kills Catboi.

Feel free to change where you need. Just giving my preliminary, thoughts.

Good reason for me to sit out of Day 2 for most if it as well.

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I truly do apologize to you all. It will not be this way after Day 1 is over.

Thank you, I would appreciate this

How is your writing going? What are you working onn?

Right now a young adult fantasy adventure series called A Cryptid Adventure. I created something like a Pokemon like world, and playing into that specific type of thing, but aiming it towards like that 16 year old girl rather than a 10 year old boy. I've written most of a source book for it of an in-story Encyclopedia written by one of the characters, and drew out like 70 different Cryptids about 3/4 a page on each of them.

I've created a board game for them (not quite finished), and it's kind of like a chess game where you pick a team of Cryptids, and then have simultaneous turns to position your Cryptids and use attacks, and I plan to package and create that game down the line as well. It kind of spawned into this, so I have my main character playing that game in the series, and her last name is Betherman, which is a play on Beth Harmon, the character from Queen's Gambit.

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It's going okay. Trying to write a bit every day. I usually write screenplays because I want to direct, but I'm going towards the book route first while setup to build an author community to hopefully build into that. Going to do a couple short films in a couple months from the book.

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16 year old girl rather than a 10 year old boy.

main character wise*

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Whoa that sounds neat and a really ambitious project. Is the inspiration from Pokemon? I mainly wonder where you get the inspiration to create 70 cryptids, which as I understand from a quick Google search, are mythical creatures

partially, there's inspiration from a lot for sure, and i kind of took a bunch of Cryptids/Mythical Creatures, and had them fit into a cohesive fantasy world.

Things like a Yeti or a Phoenix are in there. Very character driven, the Cryptids I would say are meant to be like pokemon for sure, but it's more hidden in the world with everyday people not knowing about their existence. Small Magic System fueled by energy of your Cryptid Partner.

I incorporate areas like Legendary Lost Cities, like Atlantis/Shangri-La, I have 6 different ones, so the general idea is 1 for each book in the series before leading to the finale.

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It started as a spinoff from a character in one of my other stories called Toy Saga, where that's like Toy Story/Naruto/Game of Thrones like, and one of the characters/Toys in that is the main character from the Cryptids like Buzz Lightyear, and kind of just ran with it.

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Any other possible slots to kill?

SPC is thinking Catboi is scum now, and depending on the replacement, might be an easier fade now that toog flipped town.

Up to kill almost anywhere.

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SPC was only one truly pushing you, but they pushed as town.

RCEnigma replaced Catboi. They might push me, they know me well. Theyre someone who has good gut reads with me but never trusts themselves with it.

STD is in the Monastery with me, so they’re Conf not wolf. I think wolves probably go in STD/Me/SPC somewhere this game.

We’re in a position where i don’t think it matters too much where we kill

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I got gunsmith guiltied but guess what.

Immediately after night came, I told my monkery that if all 3 of us are alive, I can make a kill.

They can prove i said that during the night.

Can’t believe it worked out that way. I would have retracted too.

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Wow, I pulled 2 1-shot Gunsmith claims Night 1 the same Night I claim Vig immediately into the night phase.

I’m a little in shock about the serendipity of it all.

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Ydrasse parity copping myself and Catboi is ??

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Hmm, i think I can live.

Idk what the play is here.

Like i by all means expected to go down today, but the fact it was a Gunsmith that targeted me is kind of just insane wtf’ery that I just happened to claim Vigiliante in my Monkery after Toogeloo flip, and that’s like all I said in the monk thread last night.

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Like we manually kill you? like legit scum kills own scum mate?

If we keep Cat Scratch alive, we can have them janitor you, alignment shows, not role.

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My defense is out there, if it goes through, it goes through. Setup well to bus long term if I go down, but Multiball is unpredictable anyways.

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Yeah, i only make it out if Cat Scratch goes down anyways.

The goal was for me to go down Day 2/Day 3 anyways. Me pushing Cat Scratch, and then flipping Mafia can get CSF some town cred.

It's not impossible I just live, though.

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Monkery wants to move offf CSF because they don’t think it will gain traction because I’m pushing it

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I feel bad this Monkery is protecting me so hard, but like it makes sense.

And I’ll help them catch Wolves and since I’m pushing CSF and Mastina, I’ll help them catch Mafia too.

The correct answer in this game by town is to fade me and not listen to the proof of evidence that there is that defends me.

However, the lack of acknowledging the evidence by the others is what hurts their push on me.

Frankly, my Vig claim should never have helped me this much. Definitely luck involved there because I wasn’t even expecting to get Gunsmithed by any means let alone pulled both 1 shot Gunsmiths.

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I think it’ll switch off of you naturally.

If we all make it through this day phase, i think we’re in a good spot. People already think Mastina and I are unaligned, and my push here on you is gonna spew you as not Mafia.

Town needs to start getting numbers dwindled, but i think there’s a decent chance i get shot by wolves which is pretty solid all in all.

I can’t see wolves trying to shoot Mastina if they think I’m shooting there, so Mastina has the chance of keeping her ability through to late game.

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High high risk, but does have potential to sweep the game through if it goes well.

My idea here is to push CSF weakly so people dont want to continue voting there

Like a push there so people don’t want it

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I didn’t get it either, but i think they’re more accidentally correct

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I hate parity cop :/

She’s gonna target me tonight, i feel

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Yeah, Malcolm is scummy here for sure.

Probably trying to get things away from CSF.

Ydrasse had no reason to claim Parity Cop this day phase either with the result she got.

Dunnstral wagon I’m least sure of this day phase, but I’d probably fade there still.

Mastina scummy from Day 1 interactions with Catboi, even if they are separate teams. They could be partners now that I look at it, though.

Mega or Klick is scum probs, and I’m leaning Klick over Mega.

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Oops, meant to put that in Monkery.

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yeah, monkeyman does make sense as malefactor here. gunsmith guilty though is kinda weird.

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so do you wanna go through with it? roleblocking Ydrasse/Flavor Kill Mastina?

might be able to get an Ydrasse fade tomorrow.

super super high risk, but it's your call to make.

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would be a legendary play with you as an mvp sacrifice if it goes through, a lot of pressure on us to win it for that alone.

im more afraid of getting just shot as town later in the game, but ill try to be in the background and coast through and peep up when i can.

i claimed 2 shot in my monastery, so i dont have to fake any other vig's as the game goes on.

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Oh dang, Enchant died.

I think Ydrasse is out of the game now too? She fled during twilight.

Hmm, this point, you might be able to do well if I’m faded.

With you living, I’m probably dead, but then you and CSF are spewed as not Mafia by most.

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I think let’s just try it.

Incredibly high risk of me getting shot sometime throughout the game.

HOWEVER, with Cat Scratch’s role + me pushing them, they can just coast until end game on that if necessary.

Frankly, I think if we go through with this plan, the best coarse of action would be for me to lurk and coast through until end game where I can turn and control the game near the end.

Maybe hunt out all the werewolves and try to kill them to avoid nightkills.

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Ahhh, I’m nervous

The idea of it is enticing, but easier said than done to go through with killing a partner

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No, he claimed 1-shot, but it could be a lie. Not many PR's have claimed really.

Flavor kills Mastina

If this works, it's the most insane thing I've ever been a part of.

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Am I getting bussed tomorrow

If I'm not getting hardbussed, I should start preparing some posts for tomorrow

No. We're going to try to get you through.

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Mastina, are you consenting to this?

Yes, I am.

I'm aware of the risks, but

technically

speaking, it was actually my idea.

I'm trusting in FL. If he wants to do it, knowing the risks, then I trust in him to be able to reap the rewards.

Yeah, it's the kind of thing that the person getting killed really has to be the one to come up with it.

Who knows, if wolves kill me, well, CSF, you gotta end game. but like you'll be able to coast as the game goes on. townies need to get taken care of.

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Omg, it’s gonna work.

Just have to avoid being night killed by wolves.

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I rarely consider coasting fully until the end of the game, but like, keeping quiet, and staying away from Night Kill shots is the best course of action for us.

Menalque is a good flip, because if he flips town, then you're safe for the majority of the game, tbh, even though it isn't a conf town, people are less likely to want it.

getting townies to legitimately find wolves is probably the best play. if we take wolves out completely, we lurk the rest of the game through, i think without fear. you might get pressured here and there, though.

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Pretty sure I have done the Day 3 IC claim as scum before, I just didn't bring it up.

And I got lucky that as town, I had done it with my previous vigilante games. Really surprised at how well that Vigilante/Day 3 IC throwaway crumb line came about.

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Mathblade Moonlogic clock, but i need to step away from arguing them. Not a bad fade. I'm gonna sit on their wagon. Hopefully people want to fade there eventually and it goes all the way through. We dont have a night kill today.

Maybe tonight, you send me your thing. It's already out and about, but it'll cause us to get departnered if one of us ever flip.

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Maybe tonight, you send me your thing. It's already out and about, but it'll cause us to get departnered if one of us ever flip.

I was also thinking I could claim some sort of JOAT with a doc shot to explain the lack of kills

yeah, that's not too bad. could claim it on any possible night kill slots Night 1 or Night 3.

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this is post 4021, math been saying 4-0-2021 crumbing some sort of role, and Ydrasse mentioned Babysitter here, so looks like they might be trying to get killed.

No actions for me to be done tonight since we dont have a kill.

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If we make it to night 4, i think we use your janitor kill on Mathblade.

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So yeah, Mathblade crumb was 04-00-2021, so I looked at all the players in the game, couldn’t find someone with the join date who had that, but post 4021 had Ydrasse talking about babysitting, and it fits right in line with Math’s claim.

They were trying to get shot, so I’d be killed.

But I’m the only one who picked up on it probably.

Kinda went in our favor.

Coast until we can boast.

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We gotta stick together on votes probs.

Let’s go Mathblade. I can follow you later, but it’s a possible fade.

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Lol, if we can just kill Mathblade, and hide their gate with your kill, it’s kinda funny if they have a role that outs things.

So i guess that’s a good play today.

Idk if Mathblade is the correct play for a fade.

I really do think we need to get rid of wolves.

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Probs TicTac, maybe someone under the radar.

We know they killed SPC, so sword keeper has some possibility.

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Math makes too many assumptions, and it wrecks their case. Even if some of there stuff is right, a lot of it is wrong, so it’s easy to fight against.

They’re also trying to use mech too much, but not solidly, which is just gonna have everyone pass over it.

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yeah, i think Cass is probably a wolf doing the scenario i said.

I'm glad Mathblade has been pairing Titus and myself up again. That's what they did when I was scum and they were mason, and really it was just Titus town reading me.

Mathblade's biggest issue in pushing me here is that they can see the finish line on the track, but instead of jumping over the hurdles on the track, they're just walking over the field, and expecting that to be how they get the gold medal.

Anyone actually in the race, running the 200m, sees them do that, and saying they won is just gonna roll their eyes at them.

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It could be fine, but the Math kill will incriminate me heavily in that scenario, and there's always the chance Mega bodyguards Math.

Klick can be eliminated any day.

Cass would probably be the best fade here because theyre either a wolf or a legit backup cleric, not that that effects us much, and in theory could help.

You might be having to end game this one.

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This was a powerful gambit by Mastina.

I have to avoid night kills by wolves, though.

CSF, you got this :raise hands:

We set you up to make that special kill on Mathblade with that Klick play well too.

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CSF Janitor kills Mathblade.

Cool with this?

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Dkkoba's like Mathblade and Pooky for me, they're all just gonna push me regardless of what alignment I rolled.

Sometimes they get lucky and I'm actually scum.

I'm more impressed when people can town read me correctly.

I don't hide the fact that I'm scum when I'm scum more than I have to.

lol, this aged hilariously well. all 3 slots i claimed are the 3 i say push me regardless of my alignment.

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all ended up being the same slot throughout the game.

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Maybe I can combine my role. Like a Silversmith Doctor or something.

you might be able to claim this sometime still, if you want. protect from Mafia kill specifically probably, so wolves dont shoot you.

if you go down, it might seem like i told you to claim it, though. Janitor kill probably gonna implicate me anyways, so ill probably try my hardest to wiggle the gamestate to keep you alive.

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I would town side before I wolf side because town siding lets me catch wolves.

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Flavor kills Keeper.

LOL

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My wincon is getting a double wolf kill, and wolves killing Klick, even though I think they just always kill me.

A world with Nero, Me, Titus is necessary for me to win in final day. With out without a +1 of an additional wolf.

I will go for a town win before a wolf win, though.

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Well, that replacement likely is the death of me.

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two of the slots I was working the pocket on got banned in MonkeyMan/Nero. Unfortunate, but thats the way the milkshake melts sometimes.

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Yeah, that’s real interesting. Menalque moved the Catboi wagon onto Bnuuy, and then later pushed TicTac.

Really strong play if a wolf.

I do think the last Wolf is Menalque, but tone wise they’re super town, and the distancing technique of pushing Bnuuy and TicTac in counter to Catboi was powerful. TicTac had a built in get out of jail free card, Bnuuy was always gonna be safe because of how fast it came up.

I got baited into actively going against Bnuuy wagon.

Also, Menalque was defending Catboi, so it makes since to distance from

If I live tomorrow, I think the two of us always crosskill, so this is interesting.


I hope TicTac goes through tomorrow, because that’s kind of a cool end game.

I don’t think I win this, but there is a possibility if Menalque kills Sword instead of me, but I just don’t think so.

I also think that if I somehow live, Nashville is the one to die, and that’s my wincon. If Sword dies, I get Nashville faded, but that’s not as likely, I think.

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When I said in game this was my last game, I thought I was about to be faded, so I said that before going to see a movie, expecting to be dead when I got out.

It was like a bow.

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Hmm, it could be Nashville.

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If Klick is actually a JOAT as well, getting clears, then this could be an issue, but whatevs.

If they’re a werewolf godfather or something, that’s also an issue.

But i think they’re just probably town?

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For what it's worth, I definitely think menalque is wolf, and would be shooting there tonight if TicTac went through, but this will be a hard day for me.

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If I somehow live through the night, and it's a Sword/Freedom/Klick/FL final 4, I'm going after Klick.

But I think it's the end of the line.

I kill Menalque, I think they might flip town, but Nashville gets faded in that scenario.

If Sword wins this as scum, hilarious.

But yeah. One of ND/Menalque are town, might actually be leaning Menalque at this point.

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Baited the hammer.

Speeding the game up makes players lead to hasty decisions.

If Nashville is wolf, she possibly shoots elsewhere.
If Menalque is wolf, they shoot me, I shoot them.

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Paranoia of Klick/Sword team…

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Kill Menalque.

Think this is the end.

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There wasnt a win path if anyone else was Wolf really.