The Small Council

[Firebringer]

it was all part of the plan to make me look townie.

[Firebringer]

and this plan would have worked.
Except it relies on Shea not just getting sick of me and shooting me.
I thought of it all except that portion.

[Firebringer]

LLD push on you is pretty bad too

[Firebringer]

In order for LLD to be town.
I need to believe:
A) When Dann shit pushes her. She doesn't just scumread him to death when his case was weak sauce to begin with.
B) She doesn't just hop onto the Dannflor wagon as its happening to be like "ohh yeah this person who pushed me earlier can go"
Never hard townread Dannflor as far as I can see. A wagon was happening as she was here. Instead she proposes stuff like Dats needs to go to prove mastina is town. Or andante slot needs to go? Yeah. No.

Then theres little things like this:

My real question is, did I really go 5 for 5 on my town reads?

OHH I DONT BELIEVE FOR A SECOND THAT LLD TOWN actually says something like this. No. She would be like "Everyone notice how my reads are right?" Then "You should be sheeping my reads, they are proven right. I have better reads than you all."

Instead the little shade at Shea in the background. Like hmmmm what if im wrong there. Then can deny it later that wants Shea dead.

Her interactions with Dannflor go nowhere for her to make a read yet are the biggest interactions she has had as of late.

When she interacts with me she immediately shoots a bad idea and then tries to dismiss me as hard as can. And look how she interacts with Unowen. She knows he is town. She knows it. I can feel she knows it and theres not a hint of doubt in her mind. Its informed mindset. She literally said a few pages ago "what if one of these are wrong?" clearly not Unowen.

She scum.

Dats please check LLD. I want this pinned.

[Firebringer]

i mean ur reason is...she is deadweight.

[Firebringer]

So how everyone doing?

[Firebringer]

why all the question marks

[Firebringer]

dats is there a reason ur not discussing the cop check with us at all.
i get feeling ur going to do another check i dont like.

[Firebringer]

i'm not sure if i would rule out a scumteam with both lld/unowen in it. i don't think the fact that unowen was being called town by both of them is *that* significant

i mean when u look at reasons for both of them calling town. I would almost call it 'make up bad reasons to call someone town so i don't have to fake deep analysis' scum play.

[Firebringer]

ohh snap 6 minutes till end of night.
I already said before but yeah i gave money to dats, fireisred and mastina.
LETS SEE IF WE STOPPED A KILL

[Firebringer]

i did not track as i had already given the remaining money to the wizard lol. And obviously suggested i be jailkept so theres that

[Firebringer]

i thought it cancelledo ut otherwise would have suggested u jailkeep mastina instead.
should have confirmed with pooky

[Firebringer]

we did it reddit

[Firebringer]

by the way the wizard fucked me and took the remaining money i gave him and bailed.

[Firebringer]

i should probably make it clear i still go income money....he just didn't double what i gave.
have 2.2k right now

[Firebringer]

Is it just me or is roden throwing out the fact JK knows where the kill go....might be TMI?

[Firebringer]

idk how that is tmi maybe my head isn't all there right now

[Firebringer]

Ehhhh give it 24 hours till we drop it

[Firebringer]

Funniest part in this game rightn ow to me is i am the only masters of whispers who has held the job for more than one night now.

[Firebringer]

i kind of wish u were doing a reaction test in thread for this dats and ur fucking with me.

[Firebringer]

need to see proof u even have this exam.
suspect this is all like that concert u mentioned earlier. Fake exam. Doesn't exist.

[Firebringer]

random thoughts and theory talk:

We know scum didn't go for kill on dats. I think this makes sense for a number of reasons i also think that maybe and this is just edge theory but it plays into the idea scum probably are planning on having dats misyeeted so not going to bother killing.
But what if part of that is knew LLD was going to be checked and would make council more suspicious? Idk edging here.

The question is who did scum try to kill. Me or Fireisredsir.
My gut is telling me it was fireisredsir. I think scum are still banking on me being misyeeted. Scum didn't go for mastina/Titus because i bet they thought there was good chance one or both would be protected. Not sure if they even foresaw us not covering cop at all but i doubt it.

Roden comment about JK feels very fishy in a way that does get me paranoid this was first time i funded JK and never done it before this night and not revealed anywhere else. Maybe Roden is just uninformed and assumed jK has been funded?

There is a bit of me that goes Roden thinks Fireisred jailkept his ally not me. But lets not go into rabbit holes.

So if scum went for firesiredsir it makes more sense in the LLD!Town world since she is only one really pushing fireisred is scum.....so scum sees that more likely to kill him imo.

In this world we still have three scum. Furtive/Unowen/Drapion???
Drapion keeps making me go too stupid to be scum. But none of his reads and transitions make any god damn sense.

[Firebringer]

Can we just get Shea to wave his gun at Drapion to force a challenge between furtive and Drapion.

[Firebringer]

the harder drapion refuses. The more i think they are scum together

[Firebringer]

how did your written part get graded so fast.....
it took me weeks for my exams to get graded for written sections.
This is sus dats

[Firebringer]

got to dm him. pooky thinks asking public questions is angle shooting

[Firebringer]

is the jail enchantment proof in this situation.
also this sounds more or less like drinking hte potion option shouldn't even be an option.
unless scum get it and it turns it into a posion drink. which sounds like what power scum would get with it tbh.

[Firebringer]

i hate negotiating on limming a townread.
But here we are.

[Firebringer]

im running out of posts lol

[Firebringer]

pooky has given me the warning, so based on my calculations on the op and pages i have 45 posts before i go into my bank.
might play a bit more conservatinve in posting.

[Firebringer]

i have half a mind to suggest no limination and us just doing the same night actions again with dats checking furtive and then 1v1 dueling tomorrow if red check.

I don't see a downside to that except for possibility scum succeed in kill, which we already saved one kill so....not the worst if they succeed i guess.

But no elimination days are very unpopular with the masses. Probably couldn't get popular support on that.

[Firebringer]

to me LLD trying to negotiate a deal with enchant is really funny

[Firebringer]

dats would scum actually be more reluctant to hop on ur wagon or not.
i feel like they would always want some doubt on ur clears.
But granted ur clears are never getting limmed while u live....thats not really good assumption.

i dont know. scum plans this game make so little sense to me.

[Firebringer]

I swear I submitted apparently I didn’t and then pooky told me grace period passed
No gold distributed

[Firebringer]

I got fooled hard by datisi
Egg on my face this game.

[Firebringer]

should we fake a check for reactions.
im not too sure this place is pure either now so i don't know how well that would even benefit us.

[Firebringer]

wait. i can still track someone though. I have the gold so i can tracker. How did i forget this.

[Firebringer]

Okay taking suggestions and thoughts for tracker

[Firebringer]

unless pooky says i need to explicitly distribute gold to myself in order to track. If he says this im calling shenanigans on this game.

[Firebringer]

ive sent a privisional action right now. might change it and we will see how this goes.

[Firebringer]

u were wrong fireisred on scum trying hard to lim me.
Dats was hard defending me.
THey wanted me to live. I was their best shield.

How foolish we all were

Datisi is my mortal enemy from this game forward. Gonna look at him very suspiciously in all future games

[Firebringer]

i agree one of clears probably scum.
i also think scum aren't going to have one of the clears perform the kill.
So i am going to not check in the clears for tracking.
But this might be wifom for if one of the clears reads this.
So yeah.

Thats what im thinking/doing.

[Firebringer]

Titus suggestion of just limming LLD without checking looks way more sus in hindsight tbh.

[Firebringer]

okay but im not dueling anyone unless i get a guilty tomorrow.

[Firebringer]

i really dont trust my reads.
i might go with dueling whoever GL suggests because i really trust GL is town now with all the events that have went down.
But im like...not trusting in my ability to hit a scum with a duel.

[Firebringer]

like fighting drapion is a waste of time.

[Firebringer]

Yeah but mastina has had several bad reads.
Mastina could be a shield as much as i was.

Mastina wanted to kill both VPB and GL.
Dats knew this.

[Firebringer]

i should probably shut up about my reads i just really don't think its mastina out of the clears.
Titus/LLD are what i would think is one of them. And LLD.....would probably just grant me the extra day i requested?
Idk

[Firebringer]

fireisred, did dats lie about how much gold the cop shot costs.

[Firebringer]

money spent so far to datisi:
3k gold.

money given to mastina:
1000? I gave 500 on night 3 to her she had the doc then right or am i misremembering?
money given to fireisredsir:
500

[Firebringer]

datisi was funded every night except night 1.
The one night everyone called me sus for not funding. Which apparently was pro town move since i gave money to junko town.
Overall i think more than half the money spent on nights actions went into the scum hands. And here i thought i was being so pro town with the money. RIP

Maybe I should jsut map out the money.

[Firebringer]

the doc cost was known from a prior holder tho right?

Yes, junko and mathblade confirmed it. Mastina didn't change the story.

[Firebringer]

GOOD NEWS. POOKY ACCEPTED MY NIGHT ACTION.
also pooky called me a bad gold manager. Very rude bear.

[Firebringer]

no. that one is on me for not submitting prior to end of day.
I take no offense for anyone who calls me scum for it. That was a ball drop on my part.

[Firebringer]

This is definitely not one of my proudest games.

[Firebringer]

if i can convince the scum to night kill drapion.
i consider this game a win imo

[Firebringer]

wait....did dats kill mathblade so he woudln't out the fact that dats didn't check mastina?

[Firebringer]

Ummmm......
dats knew that math only had 500 gold though.
So dats probably knew wasn't going to be tracked.
Idk if im going down a conspiracy wagon here.

But what if the tracker kills are to ensure we aren't seeing where dats is actually going. They are siphoning the funds i give to do some scum shenanigans.

[Firebringer]

random midnight thoughts:
i think there is a 20% chance i die tonight. I say this because if scum in mastina/titus in here.
They know i could get a guilty.
they don't want that obviously.
But the catch twenty two is if they kill me, they out thats its one of them. So it almost makes unlkely i get killed and they just risk the fact i catch whoever is performing kill because its not even great odds i succeed at this point.
If the don't go for me, i would think they are going for fireisred with an 80% likelyhood. Kind of wish i had watcher instead for this reason.

[Firebringer]

i feel like if they go for firesired that still outs it as one of them.
So more likely they go for LLD instead right
Jesus the levels im trying to think at are too low. Need to go deeper

[Firebringer]

WE AVENGED YOU FIREISRED AND SHEA!!!

I AM SORRY I FAILED YOU KING SHEA!

[Firebringer]

I am the only original member of the council left.......

[Firebringer]

LLD says u should name herself or GL as prince.

[Firebringer]

As your dear elder on the council. I do suggest caution

[Firebringer]

ohhh right.
anyone i check is immediately cleared.

[Firebringer]

Not only am i the only original council member still kicking.
I also got a promotion to Hand of the King.
Things aint looking to bad for the Paramount of the Reach.

[Firebringer]

Why wouldn't i track mastina

[Firebringer]

sure....lets go with that