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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:39 pm

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In post 3, Something_Smart wrote:Ego.

What do the slashes mean?
I couldn't decide between having a Vig, a UB or both. I put the slashes to show how I planned to have the roles laid out.
I'll edit the post to make it more clear.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:42 pm

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I also realised I miscounted so the edited versions should now all be 9p and not 10p.
Edit: By the way, I gave myself mod permissions in the PT, so I can edit things quicker. (Though, I'm going to stick to using my mod account for everything else.)
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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:22 pm

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To be clear, all of the setup variations are the same except one has both UB and Vig but no Traitor, one has only UB, the other has only Vig and the last has neither but instead another VT.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #3) » Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:36 pm

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I could move the Loyal FV (bugspray's pick) to Mafia in the place of the Strongman (furtive's pick), replace the JOAT (Enchant's pick) with a Weak Vig (Enchant's pick), and replace the Vig (Drew's pick) with a Neighborizer (Drew's pick) and add a Town Hider (furtive's pick).
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Post Post #9 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:41 pm

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Essentially this.
Roles
Vanilla Townie (NK15's pick)

Town Loud Visitor (bianco's pick)

Town Hider (furtive's pick)

Town Lazy Checker (Lycanfire's pick)

Town Weak Vigilante (Enchant's pick)

Town Neighborizer (Drew's pick)

Town Universal Backup (Hellhound's pick)

Mafia Ascetic Gunsmith (Aureal's pick)

Mafia Compulsive Loyal Announcing Fruit Vendor (bugspray's pick)

The only problem is that there's too many PRs.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:37 am

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In post 10, Something_Smart wrote:Are mafia multitasking? If not, the mafia fruit vendor is silly because it can never kill, right?

Were players supposed to submit role + alignment? If so, it looks like massive swing based on whether Aureal rolls town or not, because there are so many roles that can verify the gunsmith is ascetic and she is the only one who knows that the only submitted ascetic role is mafia.

Town's only real power is the weak vig (and kinda the hider), which feels kinda bad for a micro because you can have 3 (or in this case even 4) people dead before D2.
Mafia is Multitasking.
People weren't supposed to submit alignment but a couple of people did.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:44 am

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On the other hand, would this be an improvement?
(furtive said that it's fine for the Strongman/Unstoppable to be 1-shot)
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Vanilla Townie (NK15's pick)

Town Loud Visitor (bianco's pick)

Town Neighborizer (Drew's pick)

Town Lazy Checker (Lycanfire's pick)

Town Weak Vigilante (Enchant's pick)

Town Announcing Lazy Cop (Aureal's pick)

Town Universal Backup (Hellhound's pick)

Mafia 1-shot Unstoppable (furtive's pick)

Mafia Compulsive Loyal Announcing Fruit Vendor (bugspray's pick)
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Post Post #14 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:02 pm

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Should I start making Role PMs?
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Post Post #16 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:23 pm

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Would that be a pass, then?
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Post Post #17 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:53 pm

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Town
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
Salutations, Aureal! You are a
Vanilla Townie
!

Role Abilities:
  • You have no special abilities.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Town Loud Visitor
Salutations, bugspray! You are a
Town Loud Visitor
!

Role Abilities:
  • Each Night, you may attempt to visit a player and they will learn that you visited them (but not what action you performed).
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Town Neighborizer
Salutations, Lycanfire! You are a
Town Neighborizer
!

Role Abilities:
  • Each Night, you may attempt to add a player to a hood (containing you) located here.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Town Lazy Checker
Salutations, Hellhound1! You are a
Town Lazy Checker
!

Role Abilities:
  • Each Night, if at least two anti-town players were remaining at the start of the Night, you may attempt to visit a player to learn if your action succeeded or not.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Town Weak Vigilante
Salutations, furtiveglance! You are a
Town Weak Vigilante
!

Role Abilities:
  • Each Night, you may attempt to kill a player but if that player cannot win with the Town, you will be killed.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Town Announcing Lazy Cop
Salutations, Enchant! You are a
Town Announcing Lazy Cop
!

Role Abilities:
  • Each Night, if at least two anti-town players were remaining at the start of the Night, you may attempt to learn whether another player wins with
    Town
    or not (though you will receive "no result" if this action was blocked) and they will learn that they were targeted by a Cop.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Spoiler: Town Universal Backup
Salutations, Doctor Drew! You are a
Town Universal Backup
!

Role Abilities:
  • You will inherit the role of Town power roles who die, losing this ability in the process.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Mafia
Spoiler: Mafia 1-shot Unstoppable
Salutations, Not Known 15! You are a
Mafia 1-shot Unstoppable
!

Role Abilities:
  • You are
    Mafia
    with biancospino, and share a PT located here.
  • Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may attempt to kill a player.
  • The first time that you carry out the factional kill, the target will unavoidably be killed.
Win Condition:
  • You win if at least one
    Mafia
    member remains and all other players are deceased (or if nothing can prevent the same).
Confirm by posting in the
Mafia
PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Mafia Compulsive Loyal Announcing Fruit Vendor
Salutations, biancospino! You are a
Mafia Compulsive Loyal Announcing Fruit Vendor
!

Role Abilities:
  • You are
    Mafia
    with Not Known 15, and share a PT located here.
  • Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may attempt to kill a player.
  • Each Night, you must give fruit to a player, informing them that they received fruit (but not who sent it) and that they were targeted by a Fruit Vendor, though this action will be blocked if used on a player who does not belong to your faction.
Win Condition:
  • You win if at least one
    Mafia
    member remains and all other players are deceased (or if nothing can prevent the same).
Confirm by posting in the
Mafia
PT or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:52 pm

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TBH Lazy is an underused Normal modifier.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #11) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:00 am

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Also, bianco is right that Mafia Compulsive Loyal Announcing Fruit Vendor is useless in this setup.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #12) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:40 pm

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TBH I sometimes wish Vain was a Normal modifier.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:56 pm

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In post 24, Something_Smart wrote: furtiveglance (Town Weak Vigilante) shoots Lycanfire (Town Neighborizer) - Lycanfire dies
Lycanfire (Town Neighborizer) neighborizes Menalque (Town Lazy Checker) - Menalque added to Lycanfire's neighborhood
Enchant (Town Announcing Lazy Cop) investigates Doctor Drew (Town Universal Backup) - Enchant notified that target is town;
Doctor Drew notified they were targeted by a Cop

Menalque (Town Lazy Checker) checks Doctor Drew (Town Universal Backup) - Menalque learns their action was successful
biancospino (Mafia Compulsive Loyal Announcing Fruit Vendor) kills Doctor Drew (Town Universal Backup) - Doctor Drew dies
biancospino (Mafia Compulsive Loyal Announcing Fruit Vendor) vends to Doctor Drew (Town Universal Backup) - fails as Doctor Drew is not the same alignment as biancospino

Result: Lycanfire and Doctor Drew are dead. Menalque is added to Lycanfire's neighborhood. Menalque learns their action is successful. Enchant learns that their target is town.

Looks good to me. (In the future, when you're getting night actions checked, you should include a summary of all deaths and notification messages that you'll send.)
Got that.
BTW, since Drew was NKed, he doesn't gain Lycan's role, right?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:11 pm

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Also, does it count as a mod error since I forgot to tell bianco to confirm with an ordered list?
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Post Post #30 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:52 pm

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N1 Flip:
Doctor Drew,
Town Universal Backup
, has been killed!

Spoiler: Town Universal Backup
Salutations, Doctor Drew! You are a
Town Universal Backup
!

Role Abilities:
  • You will inherit the role of Town power roles who die, losing this ability in the process.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Lycanfire,
Town Neighborizer
, has been killed!

Spoiler: Town Neighborizer
Salutations, Lycanfire! You are a
Town Neighborizer
!

Role Abilities:
  • Each Night, you may attempt to add a player to a hood (containing you) located here.
Win Condition:
  • You win if all threats to the
    Town
    are deceased and at least one
    Town
    -aligned player remains.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

N1 Results:
Spoiler: Enchant (Cop)

Doctor Drew wins with the
Town
.

Spoiler: Menalque (Checker)

Your action was successful!

Spoiler: Menalque (Neighborized)

You have been added to a hood located here.
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