Newbie 2109 - Mafia PT

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im here now

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let's see if i can stay off of it for as long as possible.

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dio was always gonna go through we just needed to wait for it

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the only problem is if he claims PR we might have to scramble.

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killing townies is hard!

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LLD is pretty good

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also i may bus you D2 since i'm a PR and you're a goon so be prepared for that

but we'll see if we need to

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i don't think it will i just want to at least present it as an option
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rolecop isn't particularly strong imo so it's not a big deal if i die instead, it's just helpful for us to find power roles and kill them off before they can wreck the game

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there were three targets i thought of NKing

LLD, weuler, and KT. I think you've done a better analysis but the reasons I thought of those slots are as follows:

LLD - proficient player, can turn the tide, is just dangerous to keep in the game. but high risk, high reward, if pointed at the wrong people she will take out town for us. also she could be lying about the VT claim but I doubt it.
weuler - kind of muted but universally town read, could be a potential power role.
KT - universally town read, probably less chance of pr imo but still a chance. coming after me slightly, so knocking them out could help and we could just pretend im being framed.

you've opened my eyes to Space as a potential PR hunt kill

we also need to pick who i'm rolecopping to hunt for the PRs. ideally we want to kill a PR, but if not we want to get a PR with my rolecop so we know how to play D2 (avoid the PR or try to sandbag them and kill them N2).

as for your mechanics post, i warn you i'm not the best with mechanics so i trust your judgement on it but i will take a look at it in a sec and see if i have comments.

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since you're so tr you can probably get away with a VT claim against the tracker and just 1 v 1 them and try to get them killed for "lying"

I don't know why a tracker would pick you though so that's another point you can use, it seems unlikely that anyone would track you over some like me

i need to weigh the possibility of getting tracked with searching for a PR with my rolecop because i can always holster it and wait and see until the tracker dies

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i think KT is a good kill choice and i'm willing to draw the heat, it's all wine and i don't think it's going to come back to bite me (famous last words? haha)

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im not sure what i'd do if i got tracked to someone and they didn't die. i would probably have to claim doctor, as friendly neighbor is easily corroborated. "I didn't get a friendly neighbor from STD"

oh i see the JK and tracker too, i could do that. it's risky though because someone would know i'm lying and newbies can be unpredictable.

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yeah. knowing my luck though we'll probably get tracked lol

any ideas for who to rolecop? I'm thinking weuler or space have been quieter because PR = not draw attention to you

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AUROUS KILLS: KING TROLL
STD ROLECOPS: WEULER

feel free to change if you think of something else, just putting something out there

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hmm.

it depends. who is lld going to go after?

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yeah. i think i'm gonna wait and see what the town thinks before i act but you should probably try to lead town towards a path since you're seen as townie and probably have more clout than i would anyway

i dunno if we should target LLD or let LLD target a townie i feel like she'll try to lead town too so we have to be careful if she gets her sights on one of us or relax a bit if she gets it wrong

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im still here just kind of stumped by mech discussion. kinda want to let them fight and see if they target each other.

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i think we're fine. we could be in trouble but i think we can get Arko or LLD out here today.

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also i mentioned bussing earlier, feel free to bus me if needed (like i wouldn't right now but if you need to) since my job as rolecop is mostly done since we got the tracker out and narrowed our suspects.

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have faith!

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my favorite scum strat is to sit back and let town fight with each other, often times people are too stubborn to realize they're tvt ing

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also i think NK is FN, arko is hinting at it?

but not sure. little bizarre for NK to target space with a FN shot?

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actually im fucking confused lol i have no idea who crumbed what im bad at picking up crumbs

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i never get crumbs so it's gonna be hard for me

unless they're like dumbcrumbs like "we gotta keep everything on TRACK wink wink" then i get them

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i feel like everyone is slightly sus of me but not enough to push me today

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in publicthread: scum probably already have the crumb
in scumthread: WTF IS THIS CRUMB?

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yeah i like the sound of that

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i think it's a good move even if it does get me out

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yeah that's what i'm hoping for lol

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STD rolecops AV

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my goal is to put in some effort now to help gain town cred and see if i can pin crap on people

i don't really like to try hard tho but if i have time i'll see if i can

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ugh i hate efforting

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go after me it's fine

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i didn't end up efforting unfortuantely

i won't really be around for a quick hammer today until later but i doubt anyone's going to shove a vote on a townie yet

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im hoping for a day 3 win. sorry i'm not in the thread yet, i had a busy day at work yesterday and was social after work, so i haven't had the time to look at the game and post

i think if it drags to day 4 we're a little in trouble so i'd like to see if we can win here

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That was legit! Lol

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i would give it some time to see what other people do. let's wait to see if arko goes crazy and votes someone

it's a little risky to wait but there's no rush here

if you vote weuler you're kind of committing to a potential 1 v 1 with them, i think you may need to shade them a little more maybe since you've gone hard on me

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although i think maybe you voting weuler is the eventual play and hoping someone follows suit so i can hammer at leisure from nowhere rather than wait for a risky quick hammer

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lol like when scum tries to make a townie look bad that's shade. just give some reasons why you suspect weuler, make it more obvious you might be voting in that direction

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i could be missing posts of yours so if you've already detailed your weuler case then you're good, i just want it to look natural of why you're sussing me for 2 days but voting someone else

since you're a more analytical player, having that analysis is good because it looks townie and natural

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that's fair. if you think you should vote weuler soon before arko speaks, that's okay and maybe we can end the game without his interference.

i just don't want it to be like "I suspect STD the most. yolo vote weuler time!" because i don't think you could get away with it.

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and i know you know this i just want to be clear

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i dunno ultimately you should do whatever feels most natural and what you think you would do if you were town trying to convince people that weuler is the scum

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i dunno if you've done enough in that area. but it depends more on what you think, if you think you've done enough you can go for it.

i don't want you to post a clunky weuler post out of nowhere if it wouldn't seem natural, but i also don't want you to vote weuler now if it wouldn't seem natural either. it's hard.

i recommend if you do shade weuler you do it in a post that has callouts like @LLD to other people because a lot of your posts have that kind of style where you talk about one thing, then break and talk about another, etc.

if you want to draft something here and i can take a look you can do that too and i can give my opinion on whether or not it seems reasonable for you to be voting weuler.

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maybe i'm being too cautious sometimes you have to risk it for the biscuit

if arko shows up and puts down a slam dunk case on me then we're in trouble i just don't know what he's going to do, if he puts a slam dunk case on weuler we're golden and on LLD we have options so it's kind of a 1/3 good, 1/3 neutral, 1/3 bad chance

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Do you think even if arko slam dunks you, with my suspicions on you I could survive off the not av-std scum pair myth and go into d4 vs weuler and LLD?

yes

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Also I do think that LLD might think she’s put pressure on me and cornered me into voting weuler so it wouldn’t necessarily matter if it looked a bit scummy as we only need LLD’s vote and then you can hammer it.

My nightmare scenario is I vote weuler then LLD votes me anyway. But I believe if I go today you win tomorrow with you-LLD-weuler (as in LLD would vote weuler)

yeah i'm not sure what she's liable to do tbh

i agree with the second part of this. im worried LLD might re-eval tomorrow if it came to that but we'll see.

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i think that would work. someone might ask why and you can organically explain why

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actually. i might ask

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you guys cross voting is not the worst

maybe we can get 2 - 2 and i get to decide

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NICE NICE

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yeah. let's see if she takes the bait. id give it some time

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ugh lol i have to refresh the site every five seconds to see if she voted

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she's not biting

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yeah i think so

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it was a good try

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i don't think anyone knows this but here's something

the last two newbies i played, i was scum. I lost my partner and went on to win both.

so no promises but if you're limmed today i think i have a slight chance to get LLD to vote Arko or vice versa

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that's true

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it's okay i think we're fine

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we could still win today if weuler goes arko over you

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i think i have to push you but i'm trying to slow play it just in case something else happens

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i wish i understood what arko was saying lmao

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im honestly not sure what you should do here. you should probably stick to your guns but i dunno what will get you out of this. sorry if i led you astray

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that post you just made is lit

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sorry dude

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maybe there's a world where arko tilts LLD so much that she votes him lol

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i think laying low is the play here for a bit let's see if there's a way to push lld to make a move

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WE DID IT WE DID IT