Weird Dreams Mafia Review PT
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Weird Dreams Mafia Review PT
This is where the setup goes and the review takes place.Last edited by Korina on Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:38 am, edited 2 times in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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1x Liminal Space Designer - Bulletproof Mentor Neighborizor. Can recruit someone to the Reality Clip as a Sidekick. Sidekicks retain all normal abilities, but are aligned with the Liminal Space Designer. Can add someone to a hood called The Backrooms. Alt win-con of having all living players in the Backrooms.
1x Evil Moderator (JOAT: 1-Shot Hammerer, 1-Shot Strongman Ninja, 1-Shot Loyal Doctor)
1x Falsely Prophetic Fridge (Compulsive Inverse Announcing Lie Detector - the player must ask a question about another player, and the mod will publicly post a lie, and say they saw it in a dream.)
1x Suddenly Demonic Friend (Godfather Flavor Cop)
1x Abandoned Mall (Jailkeeper)
1x Faceless Jury (Nightmare Decider - twice per game, you may decide to forcibly add someone to the Nightmare.)
1x Nightmare Runner (Weak Hider - cannot die to Suddenly Demonic Friend. They'll be informed of the amount of scum in the nightmare each night.)
1x Beacon (Innocent Child)
2x Voidfiends (Masons. Each mason has a different ability. One is a 1-shot vigilante, and the other is a 2-shot doctor.)
1x Lost Dragon Corpse (Graveyard Medium - Twice per game, you may get a PT with a dead player, or a living player if you're dead. This PT lasts for the night phase only.)
1x Biblically Accurate Angel (JOAT: Doctor, Cop, Vigilante, Roleblocker)
1x Carl (Vengeful Friendly Neighbor)
1x The Final Dreamer (Inventor, can invent any normal action)
1x Gary Oak (Hated Desperado)
1x Shadow Man (Hybrid Cop-Tracker-Traffic Analyist)
1x Mystical Magical Table
At the end of each phase up to n5, seven players will be added to a PT for the night. That PT is called The Nightmare. Players must vote on who to give a 1-shot ability to. If they cannot reach a consensus, nobody will get an ability, and the ability is lost forever. The possible abilities are:
- cop
- tracker
- vigilante
- roleblocker
- friendly neighbor (can only go to town. will fail if it doesn't go to town.)Last edited by Korina on Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:09 am, edited 2 times in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Important questions:
- Is this fun
- Can this setup reasonably end faster than say n3/n4?
- Does the mentor seem fun, or should I revert it back to an SK
- Does the Nightmare seem like a fun mechanic?
- Does the flavor cop seem useful, or should it be a role cop?
I'll write out the flavor later, but the flavor is going to explain the context of the dream and give a hint at what the role actually did.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Main win-condition for LSD is to be the last player standing, or be in a situation where it’s impossible to prevent them from standing still.In post 3, furtiveglance wrote: So, it's 12/4/1.
Initial questions:
The 'alt-wincon' of the Liminal Space Designer is having every living player in their hood. What's their main win con? Or is this it? Also, what happens to Sidekicks when the LSD dies?
The Nightmare is confusing me. You say that 7 players are added each night up to N5 - by you, or by whom? And how does that interact with the Faceless Jury's 2-shot adding?
Falsely Prophetic Fridge seems like a bastard role, will you be adding a notice about bastard mechanics? Will you make it public that this is a Role Madness game?
What are the win conditions of Town/Mafia (do they need the Liminal Space Designer to die?)
What does the Magical Mystical Table do?
Looks fun btw!
The Sidekick remains alive, and I’m thinking about making them have a factional kill, akin to SKs, and have the neighborizer be the LSD’s main role.
Players publicly vote on who to add, and by end of day whoever has the most votes gets added, unless the Faceless Jury forcibly adds someone, which would be revealed as soon as they do so. They submit via PM, but I’d post someone forcibly added X to the Nightmare.
I will disclose there are bastard roles in play, and confirm your role and alignment is always truthful, but results/other mod confirmation can be a lie. LSD is also a bastard role since it’ll turn someone into being aligned w/ them, making them effectively a weaker cult.
Town wins if all scum, (including LSD), are dead.
Mafia wins if they have parity with town, and all threats are dead (including LSD), or if it’s impossible to prevent this.
LSD wins by being the last alive, or alternative win-con. All mentees win with the LSD if they win in any method.
Mystical Magical Table is supposed to be the single VT in the game, and I forgot to add that after renaming them from just “Vanilla” but I could make them a visitor or something and I don’t think it’d change too much.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I am a little worried abt the amount of scum and that’s fixable by removing one maf, limiting LSD recruits, or bothGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Alt thoughts: Mystical Magical Flying Table is an other day commuter. Can’t commute two nights in a row.
LSD can only recruit twice and cannot get a factional kill until they have a recruit - keeping in line with actual mentor.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I can type up a proposed revision for the new roles in about an hour-twenty, and clarify things. I can start working on flavor at that time for the flavor cop for review, unless a role cop would be better.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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1x Liminal Space Designer - Bulletproof Neighborizing 2-Shot Mentor.
- Twice, you may recruit someone to the Liminal Space faction. The Liminal Space faction can have two living players at any time. If the max player cap is reached, you have access to a factional kill. You also get access to the factional kill if The Liminal Space Designer dies. Each night, you may also neighborize someone and add them to The Backrooms. If all living players are in the Backrooms, you automatically endgame all players. If all other players are dead, except those aligned with you, or this situation is impossible to prevent, you automatically win.
1x Evil Moderator (JOAT: 1-Shot Hammerer, 1-Shot Strongman Ninja, 1-Shot Loyal Doctor, 1-Shot Announcing Bus Driver)
1x Falsely Prophetic Fridge (Compulsive Inverse Announcing Role Inquisitor)
- Each night, this player must ask the mod a question about a player's role. The mod will publicly post the next day an inverse result of it. E.g. if asked if X has an ability to kill and does, the mod will post "I had a dream last night that X was unable to kill anyone." Alignment questions will always fail on Liminal Space because there is no inverse faction.
1x Suddenly Demonic Friend (Godfather Flavor Cop)
1x Abandoned Mall (Jailkeeper)
1x Faceless Jury (Nightmare Decider - twice per game, you may decide to forcibly add someone to the Nightmare.)
- This ability is done at day. The mod will post "The Jury has spoken, and decided thatnamewill also run the Nightmare tonight." If this action is submitted when the Nightmare is full, it'll fail.
1x Nightmare Runner (Weak Hider - cannot die to Suddenly Demonic Friend. They'll be informed of the amount of scum in the nightmare each night.)
- I had a thought about making this role stronger if they're in the nightmare too. I was thinking about making them get a double-vote if they're in it, but the double vote isn't announced, just tallied at the end of the night.
1x Beacon (Innocent Child)
2x Voidfiends (Masons)
- One mason is a 2-Shot Doctor, the other is a 1-Shot Vigilante.
1x Lost Dragon Corpse (Graveyard Medium)
- Twice per game, during the day, you decide if you want to talk with a dead player, if alive, or a living player, if dead. This PT lasts for the night alone.
1x Biblically Accurate Angel (JOAT: Doctor, Cop, PGO, Roleblocker)
1x Carl (Vengeful Friendly Neighbor)
1x The Final Dreamer (Inventor, can invent any normal action)
1x Gary Oak (Hated Bodyguard)
1x Shadow Man (Hybrid Cop-Tracker-Traffic Analyist)
- Each night, target someone and learn their alignment, who they visit, and if they have access to a PT. This is probably a really strong role, and we could likely remove Cop from it, and it'd be a really good role.
1x Mystical Magical Table (Non-Consecutive Commuter)GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Flavor cop is arguably stronger in my mind as well than role cop, especially if the role it returns is the actual name.
The flavor for Liminal Space Designer as well is: "I had a dream once that someone was able to design a room between reality. They asked me to join them, and told me one way or another I'd join them. Everyone would join them, or else they'd perish. I still think about that man hidden between the folds of reality. I wonder if he's still waiting for me to give him my answer."
^ A flavor cop would get exactly this in return.
A role cop that returns the role name would get "Liminal Space Designer" but if we're going off functional name, not flavor name, it'd return "Bulletproof Neighborizor 2-Shot Mentor"GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Thoughts on making them lovers too, since that's just how mentors normally go?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Yeah, I’ll do that, that’s a good call.In post 13, RH9 wrote:
That'd be all right, though maybe have it be that it's a one-sided Lover with the LSD surviving if their Mentees die. (Similar to the usual Mentor.)In post 12, Korina wrote: Thoughts on making them lovers too, since that's just how mentors normally go?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I don’t mind the swing that much, I’m more worried about the amount of possible kills and not enough protections against kills, but does that seem worthwhile to try to go for? I more so don’t want there to be like five vigi shots n2 and town’s suddenly in elo.In post 14, RH9 wrote:
- I think it seems fun, but I might be biased as I generally enjoy games with interesting mech.In post 2, Korina wrote: Important questions:
- Is this fun
- Can this setup reasonably end faster than say n3/n4?
- Does the mentor seem fun, or should I revert it back to an SK
- Does the Nightmare seem like a fun mechanic?
- Does the flavor cop seem useful, or should it be a role cop?
I'll write out the flavor later, but the flavor is going to explain the context of the dream and give a hint at what the role actually did.
- I think the initial 12:4:1 ratio feels all right to me but based of my experience, it can be swingy. So it depends on how well the game is played, for the game end before N4.
- Mentor seems fun to me but it could be swingy.
- Nightmare seems fun and it would probably be interesting to watch it pan out.
- I think flavour cop is useful, though weaker than Role Cop.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I can type up flavors for roles later today since all roles will have flavor, and I think it’d be fun to watch mafia speculate on roles.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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So three changes as well because in my mind they make sense but idk from balance:
1) godfather is bulletproof. In the event of LSD v SEF, LSD wins.
2) vengeful gets kill regardless of how they die.
3) Give Shadow Man the choice of cop, or tracker-traffic analyst? Giving them all three feels really strong.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Small idea as well: confirming the IC cannot be recruitedGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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1x Liminal Space Designer - Bulletproof Neighborizing 2-Shot Mentor.
- Twice, you may recruit someone to the Liminal Space faction. The Liminal Space faction can have two living players at any time. If the max player cap is reached, you have access to a factional kill. You also get access to the factional kill if The Liminal Space Designer dies. Each night, you may also neighborize someone and add them to The Backrooms. If all living players are in the Backrooms, you automatically endgame all players. If all other players are dead, except those aligned with you, or this situation is impossible to prevent, you automatically win. If the Mentor dies, the Mentee dies too, but not inversely. If the Mentee dies, the Mentor survives.
1x Evil Moderator (JOAT: 1-Shot Hammerer, 1-Shot Strongman Ninja, 1-Shot Loyal Doctor, 1-Shot Announcing Bus Driver)
1x Falsely Prophetic Fridge (Compulsive Inverse Announcing Role Inquisitor)
- Each night, this player must ask the mod a question about a player's role. The mod will publicly post the next day an inverse result of it. E.g. if asked if X has an ability to kill and does, the mod will post "I had a dream last night that X was unable to kill anyone." Alignment questions will always fail on Liminal Space because there is no inverse faction.
1x Suddenly Demonic Friend (Bulletproof Godfather Flavor Cop)
1x Abandoned Mall (Jailkeeper)
1x Faceless Jury (Nightmare Decider - twice per game, you may decide to forcibly add someone to the Nightmare.)
- This ability is done at day. The mod will post "The Jury has spoken, and decided thatnamewill also run the Nightmare tonight." If this action is submitted when the Nightmare is full, it'll fail.
1x Nightmare Runner (Weak Hider - cannot die to Suddenly Demonic Friend. They'll be informed of the amount of scum in the nightmare each night.)
- I had a thought about making this role stronger if they're in the nightmare too. I was thinking about making them get a double-vote if they're in it, but the double vote isn't announced, just tallied at the end of the night.-
1x Beacon (Informed Innocent Child)
- The IC is informed they're immune to recruitments. They are not confirmed of the existence of a cult, but if there was one, they cannot be recruited.
2x Voidfiends (Masons)
- One mason is a 2-Shot Doctor, the other is a 1-Shot Bloodhound.
1x Lost Dragon Corpse (Graveyard Medium)
- Twice per game, during the day, you decide if you want to talk with a dead player, if alive, or a living player, if dead. This PT lasts for the night alone.
1x Biblically Accurate Angel (JOAT: Doctor, Cop, PGO, Roleblocker)
1x Carl (Vengeful Friendly Neighbor)
- Vengeful variant that gets the venge on any death, not just elims.
1x The Final Dreamer (Inventor, can invent any normal action)
1x Gary Oak (Hated Bodyguard)
1x Shadow Man (Bloodhound OR Tracker-Psychologist)
- Gets "town" or "not town" or sees who someone visits at night, and if they can kill another player in the game.
1x Mystical Magical Table (Non-Consecutive Commuter)
Small tweaks, but this is the setup I think is better. If this one's worse, do y'all think the last is balanced?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I’m ok making them just a tracker-psychologist tbh.
I will provide fakeclaims for scum as well, which I can provide after work.
If I change that, do you think town’s still a little too strong? What should be changed to fix that? Make scum more powerful or nerf town?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Is the one-shot bloodhound ok in your opinion, or with a normal inventor it should be changed?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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In post 20, Korina wrote: 1x Liminal Space Designer - Bulletproof Neighborizing 2-Shot Mentor.
- Twice, you may recruit someone to the Liminal Space faction. The Liminal Space faction can have two living players at any time. If the max player cap is reached, you have access to a factional kill. You also get access to the factional kill if The Liminal Space Designer dies. Each night, you may also neighborize someone and add them to The Backrooms. If all living players are in the Backrooms, you automatically endgame all players. If all other players are dead, except those aligned with you, or this situation is impossible to prevent, you automatically win. If the Mentor dies, the Mentee dies too, but not inversely. If the Mentee dies, the Mentor survives.
1x Evil Moderator (JOAT: 1-Shot Hammerer, 1-Shot Strongman Ninja, 1-Shot Loyal Doctor, 1-Shot Announcing Bus Driver)
1x Falsely Prophetic Fridge (Compulsive Inverse Announcing Role Inquisitor)
- Each night, this player must ask the mod a question about a player's role. The mod will publicly post the next day an inverse result of it. E.g. if asked if X has an ability to kill and does, the mod will post "I had a dream last night that X was unable to kill anyone." Alignment questions will always fail on Liminal Space because there is no inverse faction.
1x Suddenly Demonic Friend (Bulletproof Godfather Flavor Cop)
1x Abandoned Mall (Jailkeeper)
1x Faceless Jury (Nightmare Decider - twice per game, you may decide to forcibly add someone to the Nightmare.)
- This ability is done at day. The mod will post "The Jury has spoken, and decided thatnamewill also run the Nightmare tonight." If this action is submitted when the Nightmare is full, it'll fail.
1x Nightmare Runner (Weak Hider - cannot die to Suddenly Demonic Friend. They'll be informed of the amount of scum in the nightmare each night.)
- I had a thought about making this role stronger if they're in the nightmare too. I was thinking about making them get a double-vote if they're in it, but the double vote isn't announced, just tallied at the end of the night.-
1x Beacon (Innocent Child)
2x Voidfiends (Masons)
- One mason is a 2-Shot Doctor, the other is a 1-Shot Bloodhound.
1x Lost Dragon Corpse (Graveyard Medium)
- Twice per game, during the day, you decide if you want to talk with a dead player, if alive, or a living player, if dead. This PT lasts for the night alone.
1x Biblically Accurate Angel (JOAT: Doctor, Cop, PGO, Roleblocker)
1x Carl (Vengeful Friendly Neighbor)
- Vengeful variant that gets the venge on any death, not just elims.
1x The Final Dreamer (Inventor, can invent any normal action)
1x Gary Oak (Hated Bodyguard)
1x Shadow Man (Detective OR Psychologist)
- Sees if a player has killed someone else before, OR if they have the capability to kill, (if they’ve killed they show as not killing)
1x Mystical Magical Table (Non-Consecutive Commuter)
Small tweaks, but this is the setup I think is better. If this one's worse, do y'all think the last is balanced?Last edited by Korina on Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:30 am, edited 2 times in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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In post 26, furtiveglance wrote:
I think one-shot is fineIn post 25, Korina wrote: Is the one-shot bloodhound ok in your opinion, or with a normal inventor it should be changed?
'Normal' Inventor seems complex to mod if the player is creative with it. If you disallow their suggestion, for instance, are they refunded that night? Normal actions might be open to interpretation.
I’m gonna rule it as “anything you could reasonably find in a normal game is ok” which limits it to being roughly one action and one modifier, which should be ok.
If they submit an invalid action, (i.e., something non-normal), I’ll inform them that this action isn’t normal and will be rejected. If they don’t correct it, they don’t submit anything.)GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Tweaks in the quoted setup:
- IC no longer unrecruitable
- Shadow Man turned into a Psychologist or Detective since it’d be 100% better to pick Tracker-Psychologist bc you can always track to a kill and confirm the kill.
I’m thinking about making the JK motivated and giving them two uses per night, but that’s maybe a little too strong bc they can lock off Liminal Space entirely.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Very small idea: Make Carl a loud fruit vendor instead kf FN so we have 3 confirmed town instead of 4GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Yeah! I was gonna send all the standardized feedback and flavors and try to get them later tonight. I'll drip-post them and then we can actually properly review it and decide if it's good or not.
Bus Driver Feedback:
"You ended up somewhere else last night!"GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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1x Liminal Space Designer - Bulletproof Neighborizing 2-Shot Mentor.
- Twice, you may recruit someone to the Liminal Space faction. The Liminal Space faction can have two living players at any time. If the max player cap is reached, you have access to a factional kill. You also get access to the factional kill if The Liminal Space Designer dies. Each night, you may also neighborize someone and add them to The Backrooms. If all living players are in the Backrooms, you automatically endgame all players. If all other players are dead, except those aligned with you, or this situation is impossible to prevent, you automatically win. If the Mentor dies, the Mentee dies too, but not inversely. If the Mentee dies, the Mentor survives.
1x Evil Moderator (JOAT: 1-Shot Hammerer, 1-Shot Strongman Ninja, 1-Shot Loyal Doctor, 1-Shot Announcing Bus Driver)
1x Falsely Prophetic Fridge (Compulsive Inverse Announcing Role Inquisitor)
- Each night, this player must ask the mod a question about a player's role. The mod will publicly post the next day an inverse result of it. E.g. if asked if X has an ability to kill and does, the mod will post "I had a dream last night that X was unable to kill anyone." Alignment questions will always fail on Liminal Space because there is no inverse faction.
1x Suddenly Demonic Friend (Bulletproof Godfather Flavor Cop)
1x Abandoned Mall (Jailkeeper)
1x Faceless Jury (Nightmare Decider - twice per game, you may decide to forcibly add someone to the Nightmare.)
- This ability is done at day. The mod will post "The Jury has spoken, and decided that name will also run the Nightmare tonight." If this action is submitted when the Nightmare is full, it'll fail.
1x Nightmare Runner (Weak Hider - cannot die to Suddenly Demonic Friend. They'll be informed of the amount of scum in the nightmare each night.)
- I had a thought about making this role stronger if they're in the nightmare too. I was thinking about making them get a double-vote if they're in it, but the double vote isn't announced, just tallied at the end of the night.-
1x Beacon (Innocent Child)
2x Voidfiends (Masons)
- One mason is a 2-Shot Doctor, the other is a 1-Shot Bloodhound.
1x Lost Dragon Corpse (Graveyard Medium)
- Twice per game, during the day, you decide if you want to talk with a dead player, if alive, or a living player, if dead. This PT lasts for the night alone.
1x Biblically Accurate Angel (JOAT: Doctor, Cop, PGO, Roleblocker)
1x Carl (Strongman Vengeful Loud Fruit Vendor)
- Vengeful variant that gets the venge on any death, not just elims.
1x The Final Dreamer (Inventor, can invent any normal action)
1x Gary Oak (Hated Bodyguard)
1x Shadow Man (Detective OR Psychologist)
- Sees if a player has killed someone else before, OR if they have the capability to kill, (if they’ve killed they show as not killing)
1x Mystical Magical Table (Non-Consecutive Commuter)
Important Feedbacks:
- Innocent Child is revealed as such:
(Player) is Beacon, a Town-Aligned Innocent Child. This is a mod-confirmed statement."
- Fruit Vends get the following feedback:
- Last night, you were visited by Carl!
- You have received a piece of fruit!
- Bus Driver feedback is:
- Last night you ended up somewhere else!
- Falsely Prophetic Fridge prophecies:
- Last night, I had a dream that X was Y.
- Inventor invention recipient:
- You have received X, a 1-shot invention that is Y ability. (Example: You have received a Gun, a 1-shot invention that is a Vigilante ability.)
- Lost Dragon Corpse:
- You feel a strange presence with you. The spirits align, and you are temporarily granted permission to commune with the other side! You have access to a PT for tonight only with X.
- Mentor Recruit:
- Last night, you were abducted into somewhere else, and have lost your previous alignment! (Rest of PM is detailing who they're aligned with.)
- Nightmare Runners:
- You will Run The Nightmare tonight. Your PT with the other runners, (names), is located here. Good luck running.
- Flavor Cop:
- You got the following information about your target last night: (flavor)
- Nightmare Runner:
- Your knowledge of the Nightmare allowed you to tell that there were X non-town players in the Nightmare last night.Last edited by Korina on Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:29 am, edited 1 time in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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(I'm open to changing it to be the player name and not Carl, but I find it being *specifically* Carl that visited you funnier.)GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Flavors:
Liminal Space Designer:
- I had a dream once that someone was able to design a room between reality. They asked me to join them, and told me one way or another I'd join them. Everyone would join them, or else they'd perish. I still think about that man hidden between the folds of reality. I wonder if he's still waiting for me to give him my answer.
Evil Moderator:
- I had a dream once that I was playing a game of mafia, and the moderator suddenly posted "I'm now playing the game. My role PM is X." and I went in the dream "isn't that a little evil to be doing? I know it's a bastard game, but that's really evil." I got modkilled immediately afterwards and woke up.
Falsely Prophetic Fridge:
- I had a dream once that this fridge would talk in riddles, but none of its riddles made sense. It kept saying "I saw in a dream" something happened, and then it never happened. But the most disturbing part about it, was how it proved these things didn't happen.
Suddenly Demonic Friend:
- I had a dream that one of my friends just suddenly turned into a demon. I was mid-conversation with them, and then they turned into a demon and started critiquing all my stories for their lore, and how inconsistent they were. It was honestly kinda rude.
Abandoned Mall:
- I had a dream once that I was stuck inside this place. I couldn't escape nor do anything to get out. It's always been a weird place to return to, and think about. Do you think it wants me stuck there?
Faceless Jury:
- I had a dream once that I was on trial for something. I forgot what it was, but nobody there had a face. They were like mannequins, and the power they had was uncanny. The second I said something wrong, they'd chain me to the spot and make me do something. I didn't like that dream.
Nightmare Runner:
- I had a nightmare once that I was forced to play SAW in an abandoned mall, that was stylized like Code Lyoko. I kept running and running, but I could never escape the nightmare, until I fell into the abyss and died.
Beacon:
- I had a dream once that you were with me, my sweet, pure boy. That we got to live happily together. I miss you. Please come back to me, I miss you.
Voidfiends:
- I had a dream once that there were two guardians of some old fortress leading to hell. They were linked together in some intrinsic manner. I couldn't tell you how, but they both had some secret ability to them.
Lost Dragon Corpse:
- I had a dream once that there was the corpse of a great beast, and it served as a graveyard of souls. You could freely communicate with them, and they could communicate with you, but someone had to be willing to be the conduit. I was that conduit.
Biblically Accurate Angel:
- I had a dream once that BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID and then I woke up.
Carl:
- I had a dream once that I met a man named Carl. He did his own thing running a stand, and I asked him why he wasn't scared of dying. He pulled out a deagle and showed it to me, and told me that was the reason why. If anyone tried, he'd be taking them down with him.
The Final Dreamer:
- I had a dream once that dreams were outlawed. It was impossible to dream because the government outlawed it. As the final one, I was granted unilateral power to change the world. That was my goal: change the world. I like to think I did so.
Gary Oak:
- I had a dream once that you were here. I hated you so much for being in this dream. But you did save me, and for that, I'm grateful.
Shadow Man:
- I had a dream once there was a man who nobody could see, and as a result, he was the world's greatest PI. He told me everything about me before disappearing again, and told me about my trauma and how it effects my life, and then disappeared again.
Mystical Magical Table:
- I had a dream once there was a table that could just fly, but not for very long. If someone tried to hit it, it'd be impossible to hit, but it had to wait a few seconds between flight to do it again.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Godfather is 1-shot bp, mentor is perma bpGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Yeah bp is passiveGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Does the setup look balanced, and/or does it look balanced enough to be posted in the thread?
And also, RH, are you willing to be co-mod?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Put the game in signups, sorry. It will be a closed setup.
1-shot bloodhound will return not town to the godfather, since godfather traditionally returns town to cops alone, since they can fool two townies, but I want there to be a guaranteed guilty on them somehow.
Also, LSD doesn't get a kill n1, since they have to recruit n1 first. I can post role PMs in a moment too so everyone here sees what they look like.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Here are the sample PMs.
Last edited by Korina on Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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No, Mentor can only have one living mentee at a time, and if they have a living mentee, they get access to a kill. If they don't have a mentee, they can't kill anyone.In post 46, furtiveglance wrote:
I thought they needed to recruit twice to unlock the nightkillIn post 45, Korina wrote: Put the game in signups, sorry. It will be a closed setup.
1-shot bloodhound will return not town to the godfather, since godfather traditionally returns town to cops alone, since they can fool two townies, but I want there to be a guaranteed guilty on them somehow.
Also, LSD doesn't get a kill n1, since they have to recruit n1 first. I can post role PMs in a moment too so everyone here sees what they look like.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Mentor is effectively a cultfia as well, so limiting them to only having a kill when they're at max capacity helps prevent them from steamrolling.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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But both of you are good signing off on this setup?
Also for co-mod I don’t realistically need anything, just a body to fill the slot. I should be ok doing stuff.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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What information do you need still? Just role pms?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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That's a fair concern. What do you think should be done about it? Because I'm planning on disclaiming in the signup thread that there will be moderation lies outside of your alignment, and abilities, so I feel like knowing that I will lie at some point makes it less frustrating?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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IC is “X is Beacon, a Town-Aligned Innocent Child” and Fridge is “I had a dream where I saw X is (result)”. - The two are different messages and I’m more worried people will think the IC is scum LMAOGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I'm gonna say that there is capability for moderation lies outside of role, alignment, and abilities so people have to speculate about it.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I’m working on role PMs nowGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Role pms are taking me longer bc it's a pain to make them. I expect to have them done by Thursday.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Spoiler: LSD
Spoiler: Sample Mentee
Spoiler: Evil Moderator
Spoiler: Falsely Prophetic Fridge
Spoiler: Suddenly Demonic Friend
Spoiler: Abandoned Mall
Spoiler: Faceless Jury
Spoiler: Nightmare Runner
Spoiler: Beacon
Spoiler: Voidfiend1
Spoiler: Voidfiend2
Spoiler: Lost Dragon Corpse
Spoiler: Biblically Accurate Angel
Spoiler: Carl
Spoiler: The Final Dreamer
Spoiler: Gary Oak
Spoiler: ShadowMan
Spoiler: Mystical Magical TableLast edited by Korina on Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:23 pm, edited 3 times in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Only change is that Gary Oak is now publicly known to be hated, and the hated vote is "Korina." I also explicitly confirmed to the IC that I will reveal their role and alignment, which means if they are culted, they will publicly reveal as cult instead.
None of the roles include the phrasing of "Assuming no interference" for the most part, since I feel like that's pretty standard.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Spelling error fixed.
For RH as well as shorthand, on a VC the hated vote looks like this:
VCs would look nicer than this, but cba atmGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Does the setup look fine then?GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I can organize that.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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