Mini 2292: Anything uPick - The Mafia Den
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So we have
Marashu: Roleblocker + 1 shot Janitor
Wavelength: : 2 shot role stop + +2 shot self redirector + 2 shot flavorANDrole cop
Penguinpower: night 3-5 ninjaORstrongman enabler-
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This may be bad, but my current questioning of Ircher is supposed to be from the angle of "I am a town flavor cop, and I cannot figure out how a universal miller could interact with my invest role"-
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I am fairly commited to claiming Flavor cop now at this point I think.-
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Ceph is part of the Here there be dragons hydra, and had quite a few posts.-
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I would probably default to killing strong loud players, so I would maybe go for one of:
Lady Lambdadelta
Here There Be Dragons (hydra of Cephrir and Save The Dragons)
Alisae
But I don't actually have that strong of feelings one way or the other.-
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I did not think that ant of the 3 I listed were obviously town given the flip and all 3 being on.
They just seemed like the type that could take over later on.
But I see your point-
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Any thoughts on what to do with my pr tonight?-
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Wavelength uses Analytical Thinking on Ircher-
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Yeah, that would work that way.
I am down to do that if you want-
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It might make him look ascetic though, which could be taken as a scum ability-
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Although, they might just assume they are roleblocked-
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Do we want to fish for prs, or protect from invests?-
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I would expect "protecting us from invest roles" to be more powerful later on, when the odds of us getting targeted are higher.
I could totally sell flavor copping marashu too, since I ended the day suspicious of them-
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My gut reaction is that getting info now is stronger, and plants are better saved until later
But I don't feel all that strongly, and am happy to do either.
Pedit, forgot your ninja-
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If I end up claiming a flavor cop check on marashu here, then it would sell the roleblock tooIn post 34, PenguinPower wrote:In post 31, Wavelength wrote: Although, they might just assume they are roleblocked
Yeah, this is what we would need to go with.-
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I... really don't know what could cause it to fail to flip publicly, but not give it to us.
So I actually think that this means that we did not janitor at all? Like, maybe they happen to make themselves leave for a day phase, and that is why the day start post says "no one died" instead of saying that there was no flip.-
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Like, they are a Commuter that lasts longer then a single night phase?-
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Hmmm.
If the dragons targeted Marashu too, then he is gonna look pretty ascetic :/-
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Yeah...
Do we just lean in and you say that you are ascetic?
I could say that I did not get a result on Marashu as well if we are sticking with me rolecopping, but we can also just... not claim I targeted him-
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Other then you just claiming ascetic, or just playing dumb,
The only other thing that I can think is for me to say that I Alien'ed you (so I made everyone fail), using it like an aggressively jailkeeper, but then with no flip happening, it will look like I stopped the kill.-
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Guess my question is:
Do I say that I targeted and failed to get a result, or do I just never claim I targeted him.-
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Can I just say that it is wild that two different townies, with Actions That Tell You if your action failed, both targeted Marashu last night.
Like, most roles dont actually tell you. And our day 1 flip was one such role already. And there were still two that did so.
1 targeting him would have been a non-issue really.-
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Marashu, I feel like you needed to come in strong with posts after the ascetic accusation if you were gonna survive the day :/
But, to be fair, you being elimed today is Much Better then if you had been vig shot last night, so Yay?-
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I am glad that I accidentally look really good on your scum flip at least.
My game plan for the day was to start out voting you, and say why, but then talk to Ali and others about Lots of Reads, and in doing so not spend a ton of time casing you / rallying votes on you, and then end up somewhere that Ali scum read.
But the ascetic thing coming out doomed you but I was on you before it came out, so that was a nice twist of luck for us.-
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For the record, I am getting 3rd party vibes from Ali-
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If you really are at e1, you should self hammer-
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Okay.
Ircher is apparently a bulletproof miller??
I feel like Ali is purposefully bluffing with the mask she got from Flea. She claimed it allowed her to commute, and also that it guaranteed her another shot, but Commute normally stops you from doing actions too.
Also, why actually claim you will be unkillable, instead of letting scum accidentally fire into the claimed Vig?
So, I think that her game plan is to shoot tonight / not commute / use this bluff to keep us from killing her. Then tomorrow night commute when we are supposed to think that that had already been used.-
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I'm interested in where you are at too.
You were 100% right with the call for me to use plants on Marashu N1-
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Gonna immediately discount:
LadyL: role seems fairly weak, and also is a possible miselm
Pink Ball: Possible Miselim
Ircher: Possible Miselim (maybe bulletproof?)
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Flea's role appears to be decently powerful, but day play is kind of weak. Not excited by this option.
Alisae: Might be protected tonight? Maybe?
Dragons: Feels like the most obvious Doctor Choice of the night (doctor probs wont be on Ali because they claimed they can self protect)
Stephenfeels like it could be a good kill. Despite being town read, I doubt a protective will be on him.
I don't really know what to think aboutKuriboat all really.-
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I feel like Ali is our best kill... if it works.
Dragons is our second best kill... if they are not protected.
Stephen or Flea would be our third best kill if we don't want to risk running into a protective-
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I am down for this.In post 82, PenguinPower wrote: idk - i think we yolo on Ali and if it fails just have fun.
Should I plants you while you kill, or do you think any "no results" on you at this point would be bad given the knowledge of a scum Rolestopper?-
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Penguin Kills Ali
Wavelength uses Plants on Penguin
Feel free to change this, just wanted to get an action downLast edited by SirCakez on Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:36 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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I have requested the mod to edit 86, because I accidentally put my main down.
Otherwise, I would like it redacted before the PT is released >.<-
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Penguin Kills Ali
Wavelength uses Plants on Penguin-
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The thing is that it entirely depends on what kind of Invest targets you.
Stopping a cop or tracker or vig > potentially being thought of with a rolestopper
Stopping any thing else is likely worse then just letting it happen-
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I think that it is silly to think that I, as scum, walked into day 2 with exactly two scum reads. Both of my partners.In post 94, PenguinPower wrote: Interactions between Marashu, you, and Ircher are too much for kuribo to ignore. Since Marashu flipped scum he believes that Ircher has to be scum by claim and play, and you are distanced scum based off associative (as mentioned above). You're his weakest scumread and if it isn't you, it's Flea or PB.
But okay I guess lmao-
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I think Ill go look for thisIn post 94, PenguinPower wrote: Kuribo says he's crumbed his actions in case of his death-
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I think apathetic = novice is enough, and you dont really need to also be tied down on action choice.In post 98, PenguinPower wrote: like maybe the apathetic part makes my three abilities have to be used on specific nights
N2 Commuter (Spaghetti), N3 Bodyguard (Macaroni), N4 Tracker (Fettucini)
idk - i want to lean into the noodles as well I guess.
But also probably does not matter.-
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I am gonna be real, that I do not know what I should claim my plants do.
And there is a 0% chance that Kurama does not have "wrap a target in plants" flavored ability.
I am kind of wondering if I should fake claim a different flavor all together.-
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That makes senseIn post 101, PenguinPower wrote: well - it gets rid of the "why did you choose to commute N2" line of questioning since I don't really have a reason to.-
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I am a little worried that that would lead people to wonder if:
Scum Rolestop+Flea's commute+Your commute
would all fit in the game.-
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Yeah, it is tricky to figure out in role madness. I don't know the best answer eitherIn post 105, PenguinPower wrote: the alternative is for me to be like "I was rolestopped? lol, I don't know why"
but i guess that only applies if two people target me like marashu was so is probably unlikely...just trying to plan-
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I seriously considered the possibility of using my plants on someone I think might be targeted, in order to frame them.In post 105, PenguinPower wrote: the alternative is for me to be like "I was rolestopped? lol, I don't know why"
but i guess that only applies if two people target me like marashu was so is probably unlikely...just trying to plan
So that could be a reasonable argument.-
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Any thoughts on this?In post 102, Wavelength wrote: I am gonna be real, that I do not know what I should claim my plants do.
And there is a 0% chance that Kurama does not have "wrap a target in plants" flavored ability.
I am kind of wondering if I should fake claim a different flavor all together.-
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"@LLD quack quack"
I feel like this was him stating a "I targeted you, you will know what it means when I flip" because it is never discussed ever again.
I don't think that he commented in any ways that would let us know his actions prior to a role reveal-
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Just read her day 1 Iso, and I don't see thisIn post 113, PenguinPower wrote: or inventive? didn't LLD claim to have received a mask as well?-
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I found where this came from. It was a confusion on the part of Flea.In post 113, PenguinPower wrote: or inventive? didn't LLD claim to have received a mask as well?-
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So, we have a strongman, so it is safe to assume that a protective is out there. Who even are the options? gonna run through-
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I don't think that it is any of :
Lady Lambdadelta
Here There Be Dragons (hydra of Cephrir and Save The Dragons)
Alisae
Stephen A Smith
Flea The Magician
Meaning the protective is likely in:
kuribo
Pink Ball
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Kuribo being a protective feels very likely give the above, and him targeting his top town read both nights.-
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