Mini 2292: Anything uPick - The Dream Dimension
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Want proof that I know your role?
I need your help to catch scum in here. If I get two more people I can kill one of you, so if I get it wrong again it could turn ugly for us-
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'Cause I thought you were scum, I was bluffing on thread 'cause I knew I would target you last night. If I was right I would just stay quiet and wait until I got two more players and kill you.
My role: I target someone, they come to the dream dimension, they're out of the game until I free them/kill them. That happens when the dream dimension is full: 3 players. I kill one, I free two. I also get the full role of the player (both flavor and alignment).
Really swingy roll so I have to be careful, I can abstain to target someone tonight in case we get too close to losing, although I don't know if this setup would have a 2 or 3 scumteam-
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Your vote on me was awfully suspicious because of timing. Seemed like you were lurking, waiting to get into the thread with a "serious" vote to look townie.
I thought about targeting SAS but I read again our 1v1 and I think he's town.-
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I don't care if you believe lol I know you're town now and you can only speak through me for now so be helpful please-
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I didn't like kuribo's approach yesterday. Fencesitting at best, lowkey shading Amici without commiting with his vote. There was some eagerness to vote Amici, kuribo had a lot of chances to do it but didn't-
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LLD it's just setup spec but I think she's town. Even without the setup spec faer aggro approach was something I wouldn't expect from scum!faer. Building chaos is faer thing, D1 wasn't chaotic, it was just fast. Only counter argument to this is that maybe she knows that people get more paranoid the longer the day goes and she wanted to avoid paranoia towards faer which is something that usually happens.-
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SAS town, I didn't expect him to get that annoyed with me but I was very annoying in retrospect. His case on me looked underdeveloped and like he was building it on the run, so it seems like town trying to justify a gut read more than scum caught bluffing and having to double down.-
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Other than that, I have nothing with enough substance. Marashu's EoD was awkward, maybe trying to dumbtell, maybe actually dumbtelling. Wavelength's ISO is really bad but it could be newb!bad and not scum!bad.-
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I think you were the nightkill and you were protected by coming here-
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I mean by the info I got is the only clean explanation I could give you, the rest would be speculation. Seems like a bunch of actions failed on Marashu, but why would the scumteam kill Marashu? Makes no sense-
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You plan the action of another player for them and strongman with it-
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Don't want to talk about your flavor 'cause I don't know if technically that would kill you-
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And you pointed his action towards me, right?
He probably wanted to target me either way so it's NAI that he didn't say anything in thread about being strongarmed-
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Oh the "plan their action for them" confused me.
In what scum combination would SAS NOT make the scum kill? I think he's just town here.-
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By play, actions failing on him doesn't come from town; nobody would target Marashu with something to protect him from incoming actions.
So it's either scum protected him or he protected himself, intentionally or unintenionally. If it was intentional, it's scum. If it was unintentional I agree with Ali, he has to claim it asap.
Being more conspirative, one of the claimed actions on Marashu could be his scum partner, because again, why would someone target Marashu if not with an investigative/vig?-
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So tl;dr if he doesn't claim ascetic I think he should die-
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This could perfectly be coordinated; Ali's paranoia towards kuribo and me being scum together being coordinated could be a slip of them doing the coordinated bussing.In post 576, Alisae wrote:
A. The rolestop/ascetic and Kokichi’s disappearance are separate issues.In post 484, kuribo wrote: And is there a reason we're assuming someone was rolestopped rather than the disappearance being a janitor kill?
B. I can supply more information on this matter after Marashu has claimed, as I will be claiming after them-
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But Marashu claimed not ascetic so the coordination would have to different and less probable.
I'm a little lost now.-
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Yeah but why Marashu specifically... that's what I don't get. Why would scum target Marashu or town/rolestopper target Marashu.In post 35, Kokichi Oma wrote: Could it be someone's role messing with it?
Only chance is the scumteam trying to build momentum on Marashu today, anticipating that other town players would target him, but I don't get that feeling.-
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Exactly this.In post 586, Wavelength wrote:
I am trying to think of a world where you are targeted with a rolestop if you are town, and struggling to come up with one.In post 583, Marashu wrote: Not claiming ascetic, if that's what you're asking. Not sure why people's actions targeting me failed. Whatever it is, it's not me.
Like, a town rolestop is should be used like a doctor, and I don't think that it makes sense for a doctor to target you. And I am not sure why a scum rolestop would be on you if you are town either.
I'm liking Wavelength more and more-
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Then I think the best course of action is to wait for the lurkers/low content players aka Ircher, PP, LLD (technically) and Flea-
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Well, and Marashu too. He could still be scum by play and we get that solved today-
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You don't 'die' per se 'cause you never flip but yeah you would be stuck here 'cause I have to wake you up and that only happens when the dream dimension is full. I should've played more under the radar this 2 days to avoid this situation 'cause if I have to claim I'll probably not get eliminated but shot during the next night.-
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I have thought of alternatives in case I have to claim so I don't get 100% shot and add some WIFOM to the equation.
Best alternative is to ask everyone to come with a three players' list that I could target next night; if there's scum in that list, scum would not want to risk killing me and being trapped here (you'll have company, nice). If the three players are town, well that gets more complicated 'cause if we don't get scum the next day I think it could be over? Haven't made the math.-
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Other alternative would be to abstain if we eliminate town and target if we eliminate scum-
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I don't think that I would be able to derail a wagon on me if I don't confirm that you're town 'cause they will all go "why the fuck did you target Kokichi you suck" and we both die.In post 45, Kokichi Oma wrote: Maybe lie about your role and not say you get info from who you take? Not sure.
kuribo already stated that there are roles that, when they take another player as hostage, you kill them and hostages are free, so they'll incline to do that probably.
I don't know, maybe dying today is not as bad as dying later with two towns here.-
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I'd rather not dying and being responsible of you dying too lol
I'll do my best.-
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I'm afraid so, yeah. And I'm saying I'm afraid because the latent urge of scumreading Ali is becoming unbearable to the point I'm willing to get eliminated today just to antagonize them and the posibility of them using town apathy in their favor to control the game.
OR... It's just Marashu and we should end the day lol-
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Wavelength, Here There Be Dragons, Ircher, Alisae, Stephen A Smith, kuribo, Lady Lambdadelta, Marashu, Flea the Magician, PenguinPower
If Marashu is the elimination today:
- Wavelength and SAS are town
- Ali is either town!leader or scum!leader
- kuribo and Here There Be Dragons are prob!town
- The rest: LLD, Ircher, Flea and PP are underwhelmingly playing the game.
If I bring Ali here I either hit the jackpot or ruin town, it's a high risk play that I don't know if it's worth it. Now, if Marashu flips town, I will get even more paranoid about Ali and it could be better to bring them here.
In both scenarios, town or scum!Marashu, a better approach would be to sort the underwhelming players. Even if I gut townread LLD for her D1 start it could be better for the gamestate that I bring her here.
My only concern right now is, is the scumteam comfortable with this elimination? If Marashu is scum, who's their partner? Is it inside that pool, doing nothing? Will they try to deepwolf for the rest of the game in a role madness game?
If Marashu is town, it makes much more sense for one of those four being scum, maybe two even. But if Marashu is scum, I don't understand this gamestate.-
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I'm bringing Ircher here, I should've done that at N1 because of the miller claim-
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Hmmm if Ali shoots Ircher then PP?In post 54, Pink Ball wrote: I'm bringing Ircher here, I should've done that at N1 because of the miller claim-
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Depending on the flip, we decide what to do.
I'm afraid that Ali didn't pick the hint and they'll probably shoot me, I hope they're not lying in thread.
If that's the case, Ircher is not worth bringing.-
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hmu as soon as you catch up and tell me what you think about Marashu's role-
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Yeah but there are two players who claimed a failed action on Marashu and Marashu's role can only stop one-
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I think I got it. What Ircher was implying is that he's the one who stopped Ali's action on D1 and he's going to do it again today. That implies that Ali is actually town, Ircher could be town too.
I'm bringing PP here unless you object.-
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Hello PP, I reccomend you to read this thread and tell me what you think-
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Why would you think I'm a third party?-
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Other than the little dream world, I don't think I make sense as a third party by play, I've been pretty townie-
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I'm a delayed vig, I get a pool of three and the other two come back to the game-
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Even with that I read enough from you to figure out you were scum-
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And yes I'm a SK, I'm bothered with the massclaim 'cause I don't see myself endgaming after I kill you. I wanted to kill you later in the game, not tonight, but now I have to do that in order to be consistent. I was playing good, not scummy enough to be eliminated, and probably never nightkilled by play 'cause I'm in everyones' solve-
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I was going to stop the charade as soon as I got scum in here so we could all have a nice talk, town, scum and 3p all together as friends-
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I'm sorry, I don't know who your partner is for what it's worth and if it's not Ircher I think you can win this-
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By the way what I said in thread is true: if I die, you guys come back, so it will be VERY funny how you convince everyone that the other is scum-
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Hehehehehehe you'll never know.
I'd love to scumside you know I do-
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Oh also sorry Kokichi for the farse but I legitimately was trying to scumhunt and I wanted you to be part of it and if I told you straight up I wasn't town you could get demotivated idk.
I still want to scumhunt if you guys are up to the task-
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I’m a 3p, yes. PP is town, I was messing around because I wanted you both to accuse each other and make some chaos in case I die-
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I don’t want to do that anymore ‘cause I don’t think town is winning this and I don’t want to make it even more difficult-
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PP do you want me to claim your role and flavor as is or do you want to make me copy+paste what you say here? I don't fully understand how your role works so maybe you can explain it better-
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Kokichi same question, do you want me to claim your flavor too? I don't know how it works if I say it vs you say itIn post 92, Pink Ball wrote: PP do you want me to claim your role and flavor as is or do you want to make me copy+paste what you say here? I don't fully understand how your role works so maybe you can explain it better-
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Yeah my role is too "third person-y" so a mass claim makes it really difficult to actually win this.
If you guys want to throw reads/commentary here you're welcome to do it and I'll communicate it in the main thread, they'll be probably waiting for them and I'll be good and provide them.
Unless you don't give any commentary, in that case, I'll make up things you actually never said and have fun with that-
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I read a past game of his and he talked with his main after the game ended so I believe it's public?
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Fuck me sorry I didn't know that I'll say I'm paraphrasing-
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