Mini 2292: Anything uPick - The Dream Dimension

[Pink Ball]

Hi

[Pink Ball]

Want proof that I know your role?

I need your help to catch scum in here. If I get two more people I can kill one of you, so if I get it wrong again it could turn ugly for us

[Pink Ball]

'Cause I thought you were scum, I was bluffing on thread 'cause I knew I would target you last night. If I was right I would just stay quiet and wait until I got two more players and kill you.

My role: I target someone, they come to the dream dimension, they're out of the game until I free them/kill them. That happens when the dream dimension is full: 3 players. I kill one, I free two. I also get the full role of the player (both flavor and alignment).

Really swingy roll so I have to be careful, I can abstain to target someone tonight in case we get too close to losing, although I don't know if this setup would have a 2 or 3 scumteam

[Pink Ball]

Your vote on me was awfully suspicious because of timing. Seemed like you were lurking, waiting to get into the thread with a "serious" vote to look townie.

I thought about targeting SAS but I read again our 1v1 and I think he's town.

[Pink Ball]

I don't care if you believe lol I know you're town now and you can only speak through me for now so be helpful please

[Pink Ball]

I didn't like kuribo's approach yesterday. Fencesitting at best, lowkey shading Amici without commiting with his vote. There was some eagerness to vote Amici, kuribo had a lot of chances to do it but didn't

[Pink Ball]

LLD it's just setup spec but I think she's town. Even without the setup spec faer aggro approach was something I wouldn't expect from scum!faer. Building chaos is faer thing, D1 wasn't chaotic, it was just fast. Only counter argument to this is that maybe she knows that people get more paranoid the longer the day goes and she wanted to avoid paranoia towards faer which is something that usually happens.

[Pink Ball]

SAS town, I didn't expect him to get that annoyed with me but I was very annoying in retrospect. His case on me looked underdeveloped and like he was building it on the run, so it seems like town trying to justify a gut read more than scum caught bluffing and having to double down.

[Pink Ball]

Other than that, I have nothing with enough substance. Marashu's EoD was awkward, maybe trying to dumbtell, maybe actually dumbtelling. Wavelength's ISO is really bad but it could be newb!bad and not scum!bad.

[Pink Ball]

I think you were the nightkill and you were protected by coming here

[Pink Ball]

I mean by the info I got is the only clean explanation I could give you, the rest would be speculation. Seems like a bunch of actions failed on Marashu, but why would the scumteam kill Marashu? Makes no sense

[Pink Ball]

You plan the action of another player for them and strongman with it

[Pink Ball]

Don't want to talk about your flavor 'cause I don't know if technically that would kill you

[Pink Ball]

And you pointed his action towards me, right?

He probably wanted to target me either way so it's NAI that he didn't say anything in thread about being strongarmed

[Pink Ball]

Oh the "plan their action for them" confused me.

In what scum combination would SAS NOT make the scum kill? I think he's just town here.

[Pink Ball]

By play, actions failing on him doesn't come from town; nobody would target Marashu with something to protect him from incoming actions.

So it's either scum protected him or he protected himself, intentionally or unintenionally. If it was intentional, it's scum. If it was unintentional I agree with Ali, he has to claim it asap.

Being more conspirative, one of the claimed actions on Marashu could be his scum partner, because again, why would someone target Marashu if not with an investigative/vig?

[Pink Ball]

So tl;dr if he doesn't claim ascetic I think he should die

[Pink Ball]

PP could be scum too

[Pink Ball]

And is there a reason we're assuming someone was rolestopped rather than the disappearance being a janitor kill?

A. The rolestop/ascetic and Kokichi’s disappearance are separate issues.
B. I can supply more information on this matter after Marashu has claimed, as I will be claiming after them

This could perfectly be coordinated; Ali's paranoia towards kuribo and me being scum together being coordinated could be a slip of them doing the coordinated bussing.

[Pink Ball]

But Marashu claimed not ascetic so the coordination would have to different and less probable.

I'm a little lost now.

[Pink Ball]

Could it be someone's role messing with it?

Yeah but why Marashu specifically... that's what I don't get. Why would scum target Marashu or town/rolestopper target Marashu.

Only chance is the scumteam trying to build momentum on Marashu today, anticipating that other town players would target him, but I don't get that feeling.

[Pink Ball]

Not claiming ascetic, if that's what you're asking. Not sure why people's actions targeting me failed. Whatever it is, it's not me.

I am trying to think of a world where you are targeted with a rolestop if you are town, and struggling to come up with one.

Like, a town rolestop is should be used like a doctor, and I don't think that it makes sense for a doctor to target you. And I am not sure why a scum rolestop would be on you if you are town either.

Exactly this.

I'm liking Wavelength more and more

[Pink Ball]

Then I think the best course of action is to wait for the lurkers/low content players aka Ircher, PP, LLD (technically) and Flea

[Pink Ball]

Well, and Marashu too. He could still be scum by play and we get that solved today

[Pink Ball]

You don't 'die' per se 'cause you never flip but yeah you would be stuck here 'cause I have to wake you up and that only happens when the dream dimension is full. I should've played more under the radar this 2 days to avoid this situation 'cause if I have to claim I'll probably not get eliminated but shot during the next night.

[Pink Ball]

I have thought of alternatives in case I have to claim so I don't get 100% shot and add some WIFOM to the equation.
Best alternative is to ask everyone to come with a three players' list that I could target next night; if there's scum in that list, scum would not want to risk killing me and being trapped here (you'll have company, nice). If the three players are town, well that gets more complicated 'cause if we don't get scum the next day I think it could be over? Haven't made the math.

[Pink Ball]

Other alternative would be to abstain if we eliminate town and target if we eliminate scum

[Pink Ball]

Maybe lie about your role and not say you get info from who you take? Not sure.

I don't think that I would be able to derail a wagon on me if I don't confirm that you're town 'cause they will all go "why the fuck did you target Kokichi you suck" and we both die.

kuribo already stated that there are roles that, when they take another player as hostage, you kill them and hostages are free, so they'll incline to do that probably.

I don't know, maybe dying today is not as bad as dying later with two towns here.

[Pink Ball]

I'd rather not dying and being responsible of you dying too lol

I'll do my best.

[Pink Ball]

I'm afraid so, yeah. And I'm saying I'm afraid because the latent urge of scumreading Ali is becoming unbearable to the point I'm willing to get eliminated today just to antagonize them and the posibility of them using town apathy in their favor to control the game.

OR... It's just Marashu and we should end the day lol

[Pink Ball]

Wavelength, Here There Be Dragons, Ircher, Alisae, Stephen A Smith, kuribo, Lady Lambdadelta, Marashu, Flea the Magician, PenguinPower

If Marashu is the elimination today:
- Wavelength and SAS are town
- Ali is either town!leader or scum!leader
- kuribo and Here There Be Dragons are prob!town
- The rest: LLD, Ircher, Flea and PP are underwhelmingly playing the game.

If I bring Ali here I either hit the jackpot or ruin town, it's a high risk play that I don't know if it's worth it. Now, if Marashu flips town, I will get even more paranoid about Ali and it could be better to bring them here.

In both scenarios, town or scum!Marashu, a better approach would be to sort the underwhelming players. Even if I gut townread LLD for her D1 start it could be better for the gamestate that I bring her here.

My only concern right now is, is the scumteam comfortable with this elimination? If Marashu is scum, who's their partner? Is it inside that pool, doing nothing? Will they try to deepwolf for the rest of the game in a role madness game?

If Marashu is town, it makes much more sense for one of those four being scum, maybe two even. But if Marashu is scum, I don't understand this gamestate.

[Pink Ball]

I'm bringing Ircher here, I should've done that at N1 because of the miller claim

[Pink Ball]

I'm bringing Ircher here, I should've done that at N1 because of the miller claim

Hmmm if Ali shoots Ircher then PP?

[Pink Ball]

Depending on the flip, we decide what to do.

I'm afraid that Ali didn't pick the hint and they'll probably shoot me, I hope they're not lying in thread.

If that's the case, Ircher is not worth bringing.

[Pink Ball]

hmu as soon as you catch up and tell me what you think about Marashu's role

[Pink Ball]

Lol you're up to a good time

[Pink Ball]

Yeah but there are two players who claimed a failed action on Marashu and Marashu's role can only stop one

[Pink Ball]

I think I got it. What Ircher was implying is that he's the one who stopped Ali's action on D1 and he's going to do it again today. That implies that Ali is actually town, Ircher could be town too.

I'm bringing PP here unless you object.

[Pink Ball]

Hello PP, I reccomend you to read this thread and tell me what you think

[Pink Ball]

Why would you think I'm a third party?

[Pink Ball]

Other than the little dream world, I don't think I make sense as a third party by play, I've been pretty townie

[Pink Ball]

I'm a delayed vig, I get a pool of three and the other two come back to the game

[Pink Ball]

Oh so you did read the thread

[Pink Ball]

Even with that I read enough from you to figure out you were scum

[Pink Ball]

And yes I'm a SK, I'm bothered with the massclaim 'cause I don't see myself endgaming after I kill you. I wanted to kill you later in the game, not tonight, but now I have to do that in order to be consistent. I was playing good, not scummy enough to be eliminated, and probably never nightkilled by play 'cause I'm in everyones' solve

[Pink Ball]

I was going to stop the charade as soon as I got scum in here so we could all have a nice talk, town, scum and 3p all together as friends

[Pink Ball]

I'm sorry, I don't know who your partner is for what it's worth and if it's not Ircher I think you can win this

[Pink Ball]

By the way what I said in thread is true: if I die, you guys come back, so it will be VERY funny how you convince everyone that the other is scum

[Pink Ball]

Hehehehehehe you'll never know.

I'd love to scumside you know I do

[Pink Ball]

Oh also sorry Kokichi for the farse but I legitimately was trying to scumhunt and I wanted you to be part of it and if I told you straight up I wasn't town you could get demotivated idk.

I still want to scumhunt if you guys are up to the task

[Pink Ball]

I’m a 3p, yes. PP is town, I was messing around because I wanted you both to accuse each other and make some chaos in case I die

[Pink Ball]

I don’t want to do that anymore ‘cause I don’t think town is winning this and I don’t want to make it even more difficult

[Pink Ball]

PP do you want me to claim your role and flavor as is or do you want to make me copy+paste what you say here? I don't fully understand how your role works so maybe you can explain it better

[Pink Ball]

When I die!

[Pink Ball]

PP do you want me to claim your role and flavor as is or do you want to make me copy+paste what you say here? I don't fully understand how your role works so maybe you can explain it better

Kokichi same question, do you want me to claim your flavor too? I don't know how it works if I say it vs you say it

[Pink Ball]

Perfect

[Pink Ball]

Yeah my role is too "third person-y" so a mass claim makes it really difficult to actually win this.

If you guys want to throw reads/commentary here you're welcome to do it and I'll communicate it in the main thread, they'll be probably waiting for them and I'll be good and provide them.

Unless you don't give any commentary, in that case, I'll make up things you actually never said and have fun with that

[Pink Ball]

Noted!

[Pink Ball]

Yes

[Pink Ball]

I read a past game of his and he talked with his main after the game ended so I believe it's public?

He's Pooky

[Pink Ball]

Fuck me sorry I didn't know that I'll say I'm paraphrasing

[Pink Ball]

I didn't but that's still on me, I actually meant well by quoting you and not trying to prove the existence of this thread, it does nothing for me and for my wincon

[Pink Ball]

But I get the rule it makes sense

[Pink Ball]

Bet?

[Pink Ball]

Kokichi wants everyone to know that he's scumreading me

[Pink Ball]

The best kind of winning

[Pink Ball]

What do you guys think? Who's the redirector? Which claim seems implausible in this game?

[Pink Ball]

And maybe a better question: do we think that Cakez is able of making a balanced game?

[Pink Ball]

And Flea's action being redirected on night 2?

[Pink Ball]

I can talk about my strategy here if you want

[Pink Ball]

8 players alive (or in the main thread if you wish)
5 town, 2 scum, me
If we misselim today, scum makes their kill and I pick town, scumteam wins.
BUT
My best strat is to bring the redirector here and claim that I was redirected, so I want to eliminate between SAS and LLD. That’s impossible ‘cause town’s best strat is to look for the redirector, so my compromise would be Ircher. I really believe he’s town

[Pink Ball]

Worst case scenario, I pick town tomorrow night and I quickly release them. You both already know I’m a sk so I can’t free any of you

[Pink Ball]

Thank you Thank you I really needed that

[Pink Ball]

Worst case scenario, I pick town tomorrow night and I quickly release them. You both already know I’m a sk so I can’t free any of you

You can catch and release in the same night phase?

No I think I can’t, I realized it as soon as I hit submit

[Pink Ball]

So if town is eliminated and I catch town I think it’s over

[Pink Ball]

I’m pretty sure I hammered Ircher

[Pink Ball]

Cakez this extended dawn is affecting my play

[Pink Ball]

You must admit this place rocks

[Pink Ball]

I’m listening

[Pink Ball]

How has the Neighbor PT matter in this deal you’re proposing?

[Pink Ball]

No yeah, but you brought the existence of that PT while talking about a deal, saying that they’re talking about me

[Pink Ball]

Yeah yeah but if I free you you’re out of this PT and I will not have access to that PT’s information that’s why I’m asking

[Pink Ball]

Oh that’s what I’m asking, if I promise to free you you’d give me that info? That’s the deal?

[Pink Ball]

Both offers are great, for real. But I'm going to be completely honest with you guys since you've been so great: you're not getting alive of this place unless I die, and I really don't think that's happening this night.

I'll make you part of my thought of process: right now, scum has the upper hand, right? I have two alternatives: go full aggro and kill one of you and make it to ELO the next day. Everyone will whine that I'm a 3p but they will have nothing to do about it 'cause either they (we) eliminate scum or they (we) lose. My only problem with that is who I bring here to replace one of you: I could bring someone who is obvtown so it is almost confirmed that we're in ELO, but LLD and SAS can't be scum together and I think at least one of them can confirm it's not ELO with their roles. I don't want to anger town that much 'cause I feel they'll assume they are in a kingmaker situation and won't want to give me the win. The other alternative is bringing someone who has some ambiguity towards their alignment but are actually town (and I'm pretty sure I know who the scumteam is, I have known since D2). But what if I'm wrong? What if I accidentally bring scum here? I don't want to do that, I need scum to get eliminated during the day, not here.

I have thought about claiming that my action failed. Town will think that if they miseliminate, they lose, but then again, they could especulate that if they eliminate me, you both come back to the game and they'll get a better chance the next day. How to avoid that? With both LLD and SAS onto me?

I also have to get it right and know who the nightkill is, 'cause if I decide to bring someone here, it has to be someone different, or I'll get the same problem that I mentioned before: town could think that the best course of action is killing me to bring two people back.

I think one of the things I could do is claiming that you're both actually death as SAS said, but that would be openwolfing in the eyes of everyone.

I don't know, I'm in a complicated position and will have to give it a second thought. I'm inclined to claim that my action failed and trust that I'll have a pair of players claiming that I make no sense as 3P with how I have played.

[Pink Ball]

Thought process* not thought of process, mental fart

[Pink Ball]

Also I'm pretty sure with how the gamestate is right now that the redirector won't get eliminated this day, not because they won't want to, but because between the players who qualify as the redirector (aka not SAS, LLD or me who have our roles confirmed), the less likely to get eliminated is the redirector.

If I were the scumteam, I'd kill either SAS or LLD and push for [Wave;kuribo;Ali] (I have included who I think the redirector is in this list to not spoil it for you guys!). Since kuribo claimed he's protecting LLD, either the redirector 'is' kuribo and claimed he was redirected, killing LLD in the process, OR the redirector redirects kuribo and kills LLD in the process. Either way, I think LLD is the most plausible kill, so I won't have to worry about that pesky double vote, but will have to deal with the blasphemous.

[Pink Ball]

Yeh I think that's it, I'll abstain myself from doing something tonight, and wish that the scumteam don't shoot me the next night; I don't know if the redirector resolves before my action, but if it doesn't I think I can win this if I target them correctly the next night.

We'll see if my reads were on point or not.

[Pink Ball]

I mean, that, and I lied about being able to get you alive out of here I needed to say that in the main thread to open my possibilities

[Pink Ball]

That's 100% true and the only reason why I haven't confirmed to either of you the alignment of each other to not influence the game in case I die, mainly because I don't really care if town or scum wins and I don't want to give advantage to either of them (well I actually would love that the scumteam wins because of me ngl)

[Pink Ball]

Oh right, maybe I am helping town after all!

[Pink Ball]

Without knowing what the playerlist will do, I think I did the right decision with what has happened

[Pink Ball]

Noooo don't hope that

[Pink Ball]

Oh, right

[Pink Ball]

Yeah yeah no more lies about my role for both of you

[Pink Ball]

I don't need to, at first I didn't know who would come here or what abilities they would have so I had to be more mischievous; my first plan was actually not speaking at all but I felt sorry for Kokichi

[Pink Ball]

Well you can still talk and try to solve the game between you two. I'll even chime in if I think you're in the correct path

[Pink Ball]

It's fine, he realized that they can't really kill me if they actually think I'm a SK, I needed that said in the thread by someone who wasn't me

[Pink Ball]

I'm more scared about this:

I guess there is the possibility that one of PB's targets were scum since they did not flip, but it seems scary to bet the game on that. So I am gonna work from the assumption that we are 3:2:1 right now.

I think that flea is the person that I am most prepared to treat as 100% town.

'Cause this is exploitable by both town and scum.

[Pink Ball]

@Kokichi hmu when you're here, Wavelength wants to talk to you (he wants you to claim your flavor, I assume you don't want to do that)

[Pink Ball]

Give me a minute I’m driving

[Pink Ball]

Ok you here?

[Pink Ball]

Tell me whenever you're ready, LLD is on the line

[Pink Ball]

Aight now we wait for LLD

[Pink Ball]

Ready?

[Pink Ball]

It is NOT

[Pink Ball]

Ok look at the main thread to see what LLD ask, I’ll be refreshing for your answer

[Pink Ball]

Ok this is kinda funny

Like what are the odds that LLD is not answering now

[Pink Ball]

That’s what I’m expecting

[Pink Ball]

Go

[Pink Ball]

Hahahahahaha

[Pink Ball]

Nah

[Pink Ball]

Scum is very comfortable right now but don’t know what to do with me

[Pink Ball]

I can’t believe that my plan is working. A 1v1 between SAS and LLD today is exactly what I need

[Pink Ball]

This is a tvt and I don’t like it

[Pink Ball]

Day 2, SK Idol

LLD said you’re wrong, were you trying to set me up??

[Pink Ball]

Makes sense that you’ve been in more than one Dangaronpa game

[Pink Ball]

This game has been fun

[Pink Ball]

Oooh boy that was a wall.

I was going to post a meme with Robin saying "holy mother of walls Batman" but I didn't want to antagonize Ali

[Pink Ball]

If everything goes as planned, this will be you tonight:

[Pink Ball]

Wave pointed out what I was afraid that could be pointed out today, he's been my main antagonist this game and I admire him for that

[Pink Ball]

I had to go with the whole paraphernalia with Wave but I really think both Ali and LLD won't want what he's suggesting and they got more wim than me so I should be in the clear

[Pink Ball]

Flea seems convinced on LLD being scum and even if what Wave is proposing is mechanically correct, I think fae would rather eliminate scum!LLD over than anything else. I mean that's what I would do if I were town this game, LLD would be top priority

[Pink Ball]

I'm scared of what SAS's replacement could do, like someone who hasn't felt the entire game could go for the mechanical correct thing to do instead of a solid scumread.

[Pink Ball]

I had to go with the whole paraphernalia with Wave but I really think both Ali and LLD won't want what he's suggesting and they got more wim than me so I should be in the clear

Yup yup

[Pink Ball]

Ok so, this is what's going to happen now. Kokichi, I need your attention please:
I decided as soon as I got my role PM that I would side with the faction that didn't screw me over. I've been scumsiding the whole game because town has been the only ones to trying to get me killed, but we've met a turning point where scum can decide to fuck it up and kill me, so I'm giving you this information to win the game in case I die:
- I solved the game on D2: the scumteam is Marashu, Alisae and PenguinPower. I said PP was town in case town screwed me over so I would screw town over by making PP look like conftown and let him win the game via you confirming this.
- Now that LLD will flip town, I claimed that I would bring SAS here and let PP go, to bait Ali to kill either Wave/Flea (probably Flea) and think that they'll start the day with me, Wave, PP and them, winning the game.
- I of course, am not letting PP go; instead, I'm going to kill him and bring Ali here, stopping Ali's kill and claiming that I targeted them to protect them from the nightkill. I'll be in a 1v3 with Wave, SAS's replacement and Flea, going for a SAS's replacement elimination since LLD flipped town.
- If Ali redirects me to someone else, I'll be in a 1v1v1 with Ali and Wave and since I will have killed PP, it can only be Ali and from Wave's perspective, I'm either 3p or town, so he'll have to risk it and vote Ali.
- AND HERE'S THE FUN PART: if Ali kills me, you'll be both free in a 4v2! And since Ali decided to not let me win this game, I'm giving you the chance to win it for town. It'll depend on you to make this happen, obviously, it will be hard to convince everyone what I'm saying, but with my flip, everyone will know that I did know PP's alignment. PP will have to 1v1 you, but just claim that mechanically you're much more obvtown than PP (because of the lack of nightkill on N1)

[Pink Ball]

If everything goes as planned, this will be you tonight:

@PP

[Pink Ball]

Oh and if by any chance I get to the 1v3 and Wavelength still pushes me because it's mechanically correct, well good like trying to convince everyone that Ali is scum.

Thank you for being part of this both of you, if I actually win this game I'll give you credit as part of my team

[Pink Ball]

And yeah you kinda implied PP scum earlier, but I was hoping to be let go and reveal that later.

Yeah I did, I regretted that quickly and hoped that you would kinda ignore it but now we are were I wanted to be

[Pink Ball]

(Oh and a disclaimer I could be wrong about Ali sooooo take this with a grain of salt of course)

[Pink Ball]

Ok cool

[Pink Ball]

And I hated doing this to you and Kokichi...

But it was a little fun not gonna lie

[Pink Ball]

I would have had fun in your shoes as well.

I think that a mafia game feels like a win when the fun surpasses the stress that is actually playing mafia, so this is already a win in my books. I was legitimately stressed out at some points 'cause this fucking role is like playing chess while everyone else is playing poker

[Pink Ball]

If the remaining mafia doesn't kill me, my anxiety will

[Pink Ball]

I need to order my thoughts

[Pink Ball]

If all goes as planned (Ali is scum, didn't redirect and kills Flea/Wave): "I'm a Mentor, I can get two Mentees at the same time; when I get two Mentees we can decide who we want to kill the next night, or I can decide to release one of my Mentees and get another one. If I die, my Mentees die as well. After LLD's flip, Kokichi and I decided to get rid of PP since we're not scumreading anyone else than SAS in the main thread", or something along those lines.

This would be a last resort thing, I want to see what the town wants to do first, I shouldn't be the first one to push or lead Enchant's wagon, this is only if they decide that the best course of action is to kill me to release Ali and Kokichi.

[Pink Ball]

If it doesn't go as planned (mainly due to being redirected, I don't think I die here): Ali can't push me 'cause I flipped PP, town is fucked in a kingmaker position but without really knowing it so either they trust me or lose. I push Ali as the only possible PP's partner. But again, I'm not the one starting that wagon

[Pink Ball]

Cakez is killing me, I don't usually bite my fingernails 'cause I use them for playing guitar, but they're looking REALLY appetizing right now

[Pink Ball]

Awwwww

[Pink Ball]

FUCK ME

[Pink Ball]

Ali why THE FUCK are you town

[Pink Ball]

Now I have to solve between Flea and Wave????? Fucks sake

[Pink Ball]

It’s absolutely either Flea or Wave because of the supposed redirector. Either Flea lied about being redirected or Wave’s the redirector. I think it’s Flea

[Pink Ball]

‘Cause there’s a missing piece between Wave and Flea while Enchant’s role is resolved

[Pink Ball]

Enchant can’t be a redirector

[Pink Ball]

It’s probably Flea

[Pink Ball]

I agree

[Pink Ball]

Hey you shouldn’t be rooting for me!

[Pink Ball]

That’s true.

GO ME!!!

[Pink Ball]

You’ll see why after my wallpost

[Pink Ball]

Wait what

[Pink Ball]

Hope you like it! Let's see if my last gambit works. If not, I did what I could and I would've lost to a very much MVP!Wave

[Pink Ball]

If I die before I come back, congratulate Wave from my behalf. Either town!Wave or scum!Wave, this is his realm and we're all just mere supporting characters

[Pink Ball]

If Wave is the remaining scum he’ll have to vote me. He is not a full redirector in that scenario, so he can’t avoid getting targeted by me. That’s why Flea is more dangerous: if fae’s the remaining scum and a full redirector, I can’t win without fae’s elimination

[Pink Ball]

That’s what I’m planning to do. I already suggested that I’m never voting Enchant so he can’t get that elimination through

[Pink Ball]

I’m in a better negotiation position ‘cause I have more info. He can decide to not believe me and that’s ok, he would be right lol but because of uncertainty he can’t be as aggressive as me

[Pink Ball]

You’re officially my best supporter

[Pink Ball]

I think my last post can help in my case, I need Wave to believe that I want to end this game today

[Pink Ball]

If Wave goes with the "you're gambiting" I'll call him baaaad names I swear

[Pink Ball]

Ali I don't know if you know this and you're just playing but you do know that you come back to the main thread if I die, right?

[Pink Ball]

Yeah that's what I thought. Thanks for rooting for me. Sadly I think I can't win this

[Pink Ball]

There's nothing I can say to Wave... I could talk to Flea maybe

[Pink Ball]

I mean if Enchant votes no elim I have to bring here the remaining scum, stopping their nightkill and having to 1v1 Wave to make Enchant vote scum!Wave after I claimed I would win as a survivor. That's just me outing myself as a SK and asking Enchant to vote Wave in a kingmaker situation. That's just losing from my perspective, no matter how Enchant votes

[Pink Ball]

Nah he's not, but he's certainly making me lose my time

[Pink Ball]

I want to see if I can vote Wave and make it look genuine

[Pink Ball]

I'm never getting Flea's vote on Wave unless Flea's actually town, but even then, Flea has already stated that fae doesn't believe me and think fae's in a kingmaker situation, so even then won't vote with me. I'd have to drive Wave mad until he votes himself lol

[Pink Ball]

I want to see if I can vote Wave and make it look genuine

I think it checks out. I'm not getting Flea's vote on Wave, but I have to try

[Pink Ball]

I've lost all hope to be honest.

If Wave is scum which I don't trully believe, if I target him I lose against town!Flea and Enchant next day, unless I claim that Wave was town and Flea is scum and try to 1v1 Flea, but why would Flea shoot Wave? Enchant doesn't fall for that. If I target Flea, Wave shoots Enchant/me so I lose. Same thing goes if Flea is scum: if I target Wave, I lose, if I target Flea, I lose.

The only chance I got of winning is that the remaining scum targets Enchant and I target Enchant too; town becomes kingmaker 'cause if I get eliminated, scum gets to 50%.

I'm tempted to doing that for the lols, claim that it was a nice game and that I'm not considering it a win 'cause a kingmaker decision is not a win in my books, and just have a nice time between Flea, Wave and me, turn the game into a nice place to be

[Pink Ball]

Ok Ali and Kokichi we need to talk

[Pink Ball]

I am not winning this game, no matter what I do

[Pink Ball]

What's the funniest resolution this game could have and what do I have to do to achieve it

[Pink Ball]

What I have in mind:
Try to make it to the next phase with both Wave and Flea alive and post this:

[Pink Ball]

Now to make that happen, I have to trust that Flea will shoot Enchant and I'll have to target Enchant too.

If Flea shoots me, he lose because you both come back to life and eliminate faer for not letting me do my funny post.

[Pink Ball]

Oh wait we have to decide who of you is coming back if I do that.

Maybe I can holster and hope that Flea shoots Enchant? No need to kill one of you you're the sweetest (and also if Flea shoots me fae goes to MELo with both of you alive.

[Pink Ball]

I'll let scum decide their fate

[Pink Ball]

Wave deserves the win, if I target Wave and let Flea kill Enchant that would be me being lame

[Pink Ball]

I'M ROOTING FOR YOU ALI AND KOKICHI YOU DESERVE THIS WIN

[Pink Ball]

I was rooting for you as well PB

poggers

All I needed to hear

[Pink Ball]

Posting this resized to have it on hand as soon as the day starts in case it happens what I'm expecting:

[Pink Ball]

Nope!

[Pink Ball]

Ooooooh Kokichi you know what would be REALLY FUNNY

[Pink Ball]

That as soon as the day start, you posted your flavor here just to see what happens

[Pink Ball]

If the day starts with me alive, it's over for town, it's a kingmaker decision. So you can steal that decision from whoever is alive from town and give us one more night to see if I can correctly target scum or not

[Pink Ball]

Are you fucking kidding me!!!!

[Pink Ball]

Posting this resized to have it on hand as soon as the day starts in case it happens what I'm expecting:

I'm posting it anyway!

[Pink Ball]

Now Kokichi! Die! Do it for love and despair!

[Pink Ball]

I really don’t know at this point

[Pink Ball]

Flea's being a real pain in the ass, did fae really think that would lose the 1v1 with me by holstering and letting me target Wave?
Like, what does fae want me to do

[Pink Ball]

Not even kill?

[Pink Ball]

I’ll bring Fae here, whatever

[Pink Ball]

You mean fae gets voted out?

[Pink Ball]

I’ll target faer and try to convince Enchant to vote Wave, this night wasn’t that bad ‘cause tomorrow I can claim that I changed targets ‘cause clearly targeting Wave wasn’t working

[Pink Ball]

How

[Pink Ball]

You do?

[Pink Ball]

That sounds amazing

[Pink Ball]

Oh don’t get me started you don’t want to get me started

[Pink Ball]

Ali I’m targeting Flea and freeing you from this painful existence

[Pink Ball]

Same as Kokichi and PP: thank you for being a good sport and having fun with me in this place. If the game doesn’t end, please tell everyone in the dead PT that in my heart they’re all honorary 3ps

[Pink Ball]

Nope, you’re stuck with me

[Pink Ball]

I meaaaaan I wasn’t going to bring you back alive Ali, I can’t do that

[Pink Ball]

I can kill Kokichi instead of you if you want to

You’re both my honorary partners at this point