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In post 1659, DragonEater70 wrote:
I wonder who Alisae thinks is scum atm because Kanna's post after Patch's vote proves conclusively that the scumteam isn't me + Kanna.
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Post #120 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:16 pm
Postby DragonEater70 »
Spoiler: angry commentary on main thread, open at own risk
In post 1752, Elpis wrote:
As I read through page 68, I was going to get to the end and post that I felt comfortable voting dragon, but as I am at the current, now it seems like you've decided you aren't anymore, so if you feel like patch would be the better choice, or bewolkt, I would fall in line with that. However, I don't know that I really have changed my mind personally on the dragon vote, even if I do enjoy his personality, he still has been focusing a lot of negatives at times that make me suspect, which you pointed out.
Dude, you can't scumread someone based on them focusing on negative things! It doesn't work that way! There's nothing suspicious about pointing out scummy things players do, that's like the whole point of the game!
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Post #128 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:52 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
In post 1798, Kanna wrote:
elpis, i will also not vote unless we've discussed things! and i will always declare "intent" if i ever want to vote
hi mala! 70 pages is a lot to catch up on... how will we do this?
Does Kanna actually expect Mala to catch up all 70 pages? I'd argue that regardless of alignment the best thing would be to only read D3 when you replace in this situation, if you want to have enough time for and information for relevant discussion.
Like when I replaced into a D3 game I read half of D1 and in the end none of it was relevant since everyone I had been townreading was dead.
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Post #133 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:58 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
In post 42, Andante wrote:
patch isn't playing like a VT, legoooo it's patch + bewolkt!!
Andante too pro!!! Never doubting myself again!!!
Spoiler: very spoiler
dude I think you're actually right! And funny enough they were the two people who I distibctly remember opposing the idea of having you choose the lim.
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Post #138 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:05 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
In post 124, Alisae wrote:
I also think any new player is also just very easily able to get fixated on things that aren't alignment indicative.
Patchs hammers for instance
Spoiler: another spoiler which seems to indicate some alignment for me then goes the other way and indicates a completely different alignment
First, I love making spoilers.
Spoiler: second
Second, I actually agree with you here which is why I actually retracted my scumread on Patch based on the hammers.
Spoiler: third
Third, I am so sad I got replaced when I did because I almost managed to get that sweet, delicious bewolkt hammer to happen and then I'd win! I honestly thought I'd fooled Kanna here.
Spoiler: fourth
Fourth, I guess I haven't fooled Kanna but she's still going to vote the person I want her to vote atm?
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Post #141 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:11 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
Spoiler: fuck
I quoted the spoiler with the Scum team because am dumb so now I saw the plaintext. Fuck. However I closed it so quickly that IDK if I actually read it correctly or not.
Anyway assuming it did say what I think it said
Spoiler: what I though it said was
Spoiler: Elpis and bewo
So assuming it's them, I kinda thought that was the solve but it didn't make any sense to me why Elpis hadn'tjust pushed for my early lim, so I went for bewo/Kanna, then bewo/patch when
Spoiler: srs spoiler here
I got the out of game information that Kanna was town (but I started townreading her even earlier but thought it didn't make sense because of her own explanation of why elpis conftown).
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Post #147 (isolation #17) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:14 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
In post 139, Alisae wrote:
im losing my edge
I wasn't ever good at finding inactive wolves cause if I think I can find wolf movements I'll assume wolves are playing over not
Yeah well there's a reason I pushed both of them early, however it seems I'm too easily placated.
In post 139, Alisae wrote:
im losing my edge
I wasn't ever good at finding inactive wolves cause if I think I can find wolf movements I'll assume wolves are playing over not
Yeah well there's a reason I pushed both of them early, however it seems I'm too easily placated.
I guess the lesson is not to be placated by mere explanations of scummy behavior but to keep pushing.
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Post #157 (isolation #22) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:22 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
In post 1306, DragonEater70 wrote:
Fuck this I am not aggressive enough to compete with Alisae's bullshit. My playstyle isn't based on force and charisma like hers, it's based on analysis. Vote me out if you want, just remember to vote Alisae out tomorrow.
Dude I honestly thought I was going to be the lim on D2 when I posted this, btw.
Like you were so forceful with your posts and you were tunneling me hard.
I quoted the spoiler with the Scum team because am dumb so now I saw the plaintext. Fuck. However I closed it so quickly that IDK if I actually read it correctly or not.
Anyway assuming it did say what I think it said
Spoiler: what I though it said was
Spoiler: Elpis and bewo
So assuming it's them, I kinda thought that was the solve but it didn't make any sense to me why Elpis hadn'tjust pushed for my early lim, so I went for bewo/Kanna, then bewo/patch when
Spoiler: srs spoiler here
I got the out of game information that Kanna was town (but I started townreading her even earlier but thought it didn't make sense because of her own explanation of why elpis conftown).
Spoiler: regarding the srs spoiler
This happened to me in a recent game. I quoted someone in my personal PT and they got a notification about it. The tech people pushed out a fix, but it left out a corner case, hence you getting that notification.
Spoiler: funny spoiler
I was scum using a personal PT instead of the mafia PT because I didn't want to clutter that up with my half-baked ramblings and partially drafted posts for the main thread.
So your assumption about Kanna's alignment was right, but didn't necessarily have to be. I'm not the only player who also uses a notes PT as scum, though that is probably a minority of players who use private notes pts.
In my game, the listmods decided the notification wasn't game breaking, mostly because the player list was a bunch of jaded veterans who wouldn't and didn't make a bet the farm assumption that my having a notes PT meant I was town.
Spoiler: obvious spoiler
Spoiler:
Huh. So If I were a veteran I wouldn't have to be replaced technically?
Also it's like I was townreading her so bad but it just didn't make any sense why Elpis hadn't pushed for the early lim on me, and I just KNEW patch was town so I was at the impossible situation if having 3 town and 1 scum and from a voting standpoint Kanna was the only possible scum otherwise I would've been hammered. Then when I saw it it dawned on me that my townread was correct after all.
I guess Elpis just wanted to drag it on? Or they didn't feel confident enough that Kanna would vote with them?
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Post #162 (isolation #24) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:29 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
In post 159, Alisae wrote:
we can both claim victim to confbias ig
confbias is one hella drug ig
It really is.
Though one game I was in a very similar situation then I just dropped my topscumread and said "it's confbias sorry guys"
and everybody scimread me for that but in the end I was right that they were town and neither of us got limmed.
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Post #164 (isolation #25) » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:30 am
Postby DragonEater70 »
In post 160, Alisae wrote:
Game is really hard and it's easy to see what you wanna see
Yeah that's true.
Also that's all the fun ig? Seeing what you wanna see, tearing each other apart and so on. But in the end you win if you can see through it (or if you can actively cause it, as scum)
So before I even got the Out Of Game Info, I was planning to tell Patch that the fact that they've voted bewo and nobody's hammered confirms bewo as scum in their eyes. But then I didn't because I thought it was obvious to them I guess?
And bow they freaking unvoted??? What?
