Election! Scum PT

[Alisae]

Like furtive doesn’t listen to anything that anyone says

furtive's on my blacklist after this game

I imagine he’ll just get put on more blacklists as time goes on ya

[Alisae]

wow LLD I may actually get out of this day phase alive

[Alisae]

thanks so much

[Alisae]

you are right if we can kill Furtive today
I don't need to be defending that as much anymore I don't think

[Alisae]

I would prefer to get to F7 with 3 wolves alive as well

[Alisae]

What I really wanna know about is if town defaulted or not

[Alisae]

A default wins us the game

Otherwise we maybe need to kill sheep

for obvious reasons I do not want to kill sheep but we have to do it

[Alisae]

doesn't sabotaging the treasurer just make it hand out less money?

[Alisae]

regardless we def sabotage the treasury tonight

[Alisae]

tbh I don't think sheep is likely to check you or bingle.
I think if I get checked its fine and if they check any villager its fine

[Alisae]

doesn't sabotaging the treasurer just make it hand out less money?

Have less money to hand out

I asked shea about it and they said the sabotage happens after the budget is set and funded roles are informed that they have been sabotaged.

I don't think it forces town to default but makes town's actions less likely to happen

[Alisae]

Actually killing Sheep tonight is pointless because it'll be ELO.

So we kill uhhh UNOwen tonight? Or GL

we have a lot of options tonight ya

[Alisae]

I don't think I can identify the correct kill right now

[Alisae]

A default wins us the game

They literally can't have. Minimum funding for today is the exact amount of money LLD left to be paid back.

town at a minimum makes 60$
town needs to make an additional 30$
and this has a 6/19 chance in happening

[Alisae]

60 - Every villager pays 10$
65
70
75
80
85
90 - loan paid, every villager pays 15$
95
100
105
110
115
120 - every villager pays 20$
125
130
135
140
145
150 - every villager pays 25$

[Alisae]

we would have to get pretty lucky for it to happen

[Alisae]

A default wins us the game

They literally can't have. Minimum funding for today is the exact amount of money LLD left to be paid back.

I confirm3d with Shea if the 25% reduction reduces the budget below what needs be paid back they default

woah

[Alisae]

wait we can actually force town to default here?

[Alisae]

JAJAJAJAJAJAJA

[Alisae]

Sabotage the Treasurer

[Alisae]

its a 6/19 chance the odds are not in our favor here

[Alisae]

GL is losing to calculator

[Alisae]

yes yes you are

[Alisae]

GL thinks I’m naughty though.

it'll all go out the window after furtive flips town I wouldn't worry too much about it

[Alisae]

LLD I think if the winds sail in favor of my elimination you should go for it

[Alisae]

I think it wouldn't look like a bus

[Alisae]

it shouldn't be necessary furtive is just dead here I think

[Alisae]

its probs +winrate though

[Alisae]

btw LLD good job that was easier than I expected

I CAN'T

[Alisae]

OMG

[Alisae]

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

[Alisae]

I voted Furtive for treasurer

[Alisae]

He's not going to find a better play then pressing the all in button though
Unless he REALLY thinks he's going to be right today.
and honestly even if that's the case, I think that's bis for us because the game ends tomorrow

[Alisae]

Ungood players

Town don't deserve to win at all

I don't think a single other player, except for GL if he's town, has actually gone in depth with reads and trying to win

Most people here sleepwalking

Absolute zombies

I agree with this tbh

[Alisae]

Oh I have full confidence it will

[Alisae]

Our position is super flexible here

[Alisae]

I think leaving gl sheep and unowen alive is probs what we want to do
I think it’s either shoot kdowns or shoot skrew and I think both are viable

[Alisae]

I’m just thinking what 3 person team is the easiest to sell and I see that line from how all 3 of them are playing this phase.

I can get why you wouldn’t want to shoot either of those players.
Skrew has just been a mind controlled townie so far.
Kdowns on the other hand I’ve never played with, so I don’t know how influential they are as a player or if they’re someone that you can just play to for the win. I see him as a replacement who can swing the game in their favor

Removing GL is probably a good idea if you just want to go for the bus tomorrow?

[Alisae]

Honestly removing gl period seems good just on the basis that they’re a townie who wants to actually play mafia

[Alisae]

My main concern is in f7 we likely need to be able to present a world view or a game solve that makes sense.

That’s 1 line I see but it’s possible there are other lines I’m missing out on by tunneling on the idea that has 3 villagers teamed up

[Alisae]

For example I haven’t really considered the possibilities that exist by throwing one of you two in a hypothetical team solve tomorrow instead of a townie

[Alisae]

You make it sound like even not killing is viable hahaha

[Alisae]

LLD depending on if the day plays out to be a bit longer, I'll probably need to butt heads with you in my attempts to fake scumhunting for the circus

[Alisae]

why would you shake the status quo?

I'm not trying to shake status quo, that's not my goal and I don't want to be your enemy or your elimination. I just want to say that I feel like you could be aligned with unowen if he is a wolf. Just like how you could probably say you think I'm a wolf if Furtive is a wolf. I would probably push for Unowen's elimination before I want yours. You shouldn't be in any real danger.

The way I am going to show I am town, NOT just to GL but also to the game is by showing some "hunting" and it'll keep me occupied for the day phase. I want to show thought that's somewhat nuanced and I like how I'm currently going about it.

[Alisae]

Also LLD I think you can easily get Furtive's death without me?

[Alisae]

I think 3 villagers have stated willingness to vote Furtive. Unowen, GL, SK.
It just needs you and Bingle so I can play the way I am currently

[Alisae]

the best thing you could do is be uncertain and talk into me but

This is what I'm going for
I want to say "I feel like Furtive isn't playing with teammates and this is what wolves want"

[Alisae]

tbh I've been struggling as both mafia and town recently.

When I play this alignment I feel like if all of the pressure is on me to win the game it's really easy for me to just crumble.

I could probably be way more lazy here.

I think I'm competent at this alignment but I have trouble winning games, I don't know why aside from the fact I either give up way too easily or have trouble vs players who know how to read me. I think I have a solid understanding of the alignment but I'm not winning games and I be a competent player. I think I have a solid grasp on the game but my read accuracy isn't as good as it used to be and I still have trouble playing this alignment.

[Alisae]

I look up to you as a wolf player because I feel like you're able to see these lines that I would have never been able to spot, and maybe it's just you have more games than I do, so like, I'm willing to learn?

I play this game a lot... I would like to be good at something I do a lot...

[Alisae]

I look up to you as a wolf player because I feel like you're able to see these lines that I would have never been able to spot, and maybe it's just you have more games than I do, so like, I'm willing to learn?

I play this game a lot... I would like to be good at something I do a lot...

Id happily teach you, the real thing I think is that you try to do too much.

You saw how we had control easily and omly when something started going astray did I step in and do something.

It's about playing your cards when you need them.

I generally agree with this.
I feel like when I play wolf, I have this mindset where I feel like if things are either going astray or could go astray, I need to play to the edge and as tight as I possibly can (this is a thought process that pops up in some of my other more competitive activities). There was one game in particular a couple years back where, now that I thought about it, things were about to go astray, I panicked and did too much, and from then it felt like I was always playing from a position where if things don't go my way I just immediately lose the game.

[Alisae]

Looking forward to learning from ya

[Alisae]

there was also another game where I fucked up F5 but somehow still won because Junko Gamethrew KEKW

[Alisae]

What I think I'm good at is being able to strategize, plan a way to victory while playing to my outs in bad positions, and play off of teammates. I think I'm really good to bus because I know how to be bussed while trying to take people down with me, though I think my bussing can be a bit by the books.

[Alisae]

I can probably get away with coasting more tbh.
I feel the need to be proactive as wolf because I'm always "Control the Agenda, Drive the Narrative"

[Alisae]

Ali you gotta work on GL

What else do u want me to do aside from show support for furtive and what you’re saying?

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

so the quesiton now is who do we night kill

[Alisae]

i can be way too rigid with my stances ig

[Alisae]

one more and finally lld doesn't have to watch me make bad plays and share a wolf pt with me as I posted stupid things

[Alisae]

LOL

[Alisae]

Sabotage the Treasurer

[Alisae]

Wiretap Unowen
LLD tracks Ali

Who are we shooting?

[Alisae]

Nah, was my fault for assuming and then acting on it. It does give us a bit of an issue and we shouldn’t have used the power, but it’s not really your fault.

tonight was the best night to use the power tho

[Alisae]

sabo is not night it's before nightstart

[Alisae]

I think kdowns is a good kill still

[Alisae]

guy is TRing Unowen + Skrew
not ideal

[Alisae]

wait he isn't tring unowen but is tring skrew ok

[Alisae]

Ali shoots GL

[Alisae]

Ali shoots Sheep
LLD tracks UNOwen

Are we sure I perform kill?
You want me to get tracked ya but you don't want me to get blocked

[Alisae]

also isn't the village gonna default soon?

[Alisae]

so it's not like sheep's cop will ever be verified

[Alisae]

If you get shot at night do you think me and Bingle can win game?

[Alisae]

not shot but caught by actions

[Alisae]

tbh I think the likelihood of town targeting you with actions is low and I think you performing the kill makes it so village's only out is to target you

[Alisae]

I can understand why you feel that way but I also feel like another perspective when it comes to thinking about this is to force the village to take an action that is very unlikely they would take and I think Bingle taking that action is much more likely to happen then say you I think

[Alisae]

Oh wait.

I got 80 money. He onoy had 205 max.

If he funded the cop and me he can't fund RB.

can still partially fund it though, no?

[Alisae]

I do agree that I am the person we don't mind getting caught

[Alisae]

45$ in debt shit
village won't be defaulting then

[Alisae]

you look like you are winning the game

[Alisae]

ali has been notoriously hard to read due to how chaotic e is

if I was town I would be telling you that I'm way easier to read then you think I am btw

[Alisae]

I feel all of this, one other thing too is that if Alisae is scum then I really do not know what e's partners are doing.

CACKLE CACKLE CACKLE

[Alisae]

ya how could you not trust LLD

[Alisae]

that's crazy

[Alisae]

you're crazy you can't trust LLD????

[Alisae]

thats crazy

[Alisae]

I trust LLD

[Alisae]

vote kdowns for mayor
make it look like wolves won the spot

[Alisae]

we outvote village here and there's no reason to give a town!GL power

[Alisae]

who votes gl?
who votes kdowns?

[Alisae]

o wait

[Alisae]

zzz

[Alisae]

ig I can see where you're coming from ya

[Alisae]

just took me a minute to connect the dots

[Alisae]

what happens if it's tied and no one is elected?

[Alisae]

If possible I would like to force a draw I think that would be really good

[Alisae]

zzz

[Alisae]

wow

[Alisae]

that's it?

[Alisae]

he's not even going to fight

[Alisae]

we're all on lets end

[Alisae]

I'll be spam f5ing the page

[Alisae]

should I vote first?

[Alisae]

should I just do it