Newbie 2120 - Mafia PT

[JasonWazza]

Egoposting.

Let's have a good game, just so you know, i tend to be someone who busses quite often, just don't be super afraid of it, as the idea is to make it look less like we are a team.

[JasonWazza]

Possible Setups;

Column C & Row 1: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3: Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Possible Fake Claims
C-1 Doctor
C-2 Tracker (Friendly Neighbor isn't a viable fake claim)
C-3 Not possible

[JasonWazza]

no brakes on this bus.

I will say might be worth isoing Happy to see what your defending before you read the whole game, then decide if you want to keep a defense of that going.

[JasonWazza]

Honestly, if we can just get the votes a bit more spread, we can probably get them limmed even potentially without a claim, we are less then 4 days before deadline, so a scramble is going to have to happen real soon.

[JasonWazza]

Note: now happy's wagon is at 2, and one of the 2 is inactive (Clark) so we can probably push for a burn on a bit of the timer.

iamveryhappy (2): , MintChippo, ClarkBar (inactive)
eektor (1): iamveryhappy,
Alianna: JasonWazza
Merlyn: Mislim Bait
Kanin: Alianna

Not Voting (4): KaninIGuess (inactive), eektor, Merlyn

[JasonWazza]

eh that's probably fine, as long as both replacements come in at the same time, unless something major happens their will be a scramble for time.

Reminder both these slots are not quite no show's, but may as well be for the most part.

[JasonWazza]

I think if it's mason's it'd have to be with Kanin, as that would be the reason you wouldn't have crumbed anything major yet, because you just can't afford to on a slot that doesn't exist.

Admittedly I am now being a bit risky by calling out python to see if I can't get some info on PR's for today, if you want to consider distancing us a bit, calling me out for this while saying PR fishing is bad would be a decent play.

[JasonWazza]

I have this weird paranoia coming on that this is Happy's way of attempting to not be shot as a PR overnight.

Though in saying that i also think that we could probably out argue Happy really easily even if he were to have a cop result on one of us, so still not worth shooting.

[JasonWazza]

Mod said they aren't a hydra because admittedly i saw their signature and tried to get them re-replaced immediately because hydra's are a headache (and a no in newbies).

They are a "Plurality".

https://pluralityresource.org/plurality-information/

Link the mod gave me, seems odd to me but what ya gonna do?

[JasonWazza]

Frankly kinda feels like town is stalling into a no lim or a lim without a claim right now, could be worth stalling for that, or if you want to call it out for some town points it'd be a decent thing to do.

[JasonWazza]

And the way to call it out is to phrase it roughly like this.

Python is clearly trying to stall us into a no claim lim, or a no lim, this is extremely scummy, because we risk either liming a PR without getting a claim which is bad, or no lim which gives Scum an extra shot and basically make the game a scum win.

And also something about a town lim isn't bad for town, it literally gives us info, Python changing lims like this as close to deadline as we are is trying to basically get us less info because it turns into this lim happened because of a time crunch, not because X thinks Y is scum.

[JasonWazza]

Mint hiding as town makes me think his a PR, and his reasoning for being all unsure of how to play is because he rolled PR.

Python i think is also on the mislim possible train with eektor and alianna (their play this day is SOOO bad as town)

[JasonWazza]

Python is just adding to the arguments why they are scum for tomorrow and I love it.

P-Edit: oh yeah i'm doing kill, if it's a JK they will suspect that they protected me over actually thinking i am scum.

[JasonWazza]

Just going to put this here for now, we might find something better.

Killer: JasonWazza Target: MintChippo

[JasonWazza]

That doesn't seem like a slip, just someone in Town that didn't realize that you work down from Scum to work out the possible setups.

[JasonWazza]

yeah not 3, 5 my man, it's bad.

It also frankly in a townies eyes probably looks like SvS trying to feign a TvT/TvS showdown.

It's mostly making you both look bad. (not at all helped by Python consistently taking quotes out of context.)

[JasonWazza]

Oh yeah, you are stuck on Python, I'm gonna try and buy you another day by focusing Python first (at some point, i think doing it immediately is bad)

Honestly i think the better sort of claim is actually to claim Jailkeeper, you getting the PR claimed is the main aim, as if we can get the PR claimed i am free to do my own shit (outside of JK jailkeeping exactly me).

[JasonWazza]

Re-read is making me think Python is Cop, Kanin being so sheepish seems like potentially newb PR, and it explains the fulls balls to the wall against you.

[JasonWazza]

No way is this town managing to fully lim a town member themselves?

If you can afford to, you need to not say anything.

[JasonWazza]

So guess Python isn't a cop or anything, not sure who the PR is, but on the plus side it might not matter as it looks like Town are just going to lose themselves the game by not focusing on you.

[JasonWazza]

Jesus, i was worried that the vote of mine might be a bit gambity, but Town have literally given us a free win by moving their own votes off you, i have no idea how this game is where it is right now.

[JasonWazza]

Logic isn't your forte I guess.

If i wasn't scum, i would be hypertunneling on you right now, but because i'm scum, i'm gonna use your ignorance for my benefit.

And yes this is a message here just for you Drew.

[JasonWazza]

Personally I'd say claim in a way to bait a counter claim, but honestly, your call how you want to try and play this one.

I'm not certain we win in a fully vanilla game (how do i live to 3p without being scum)

But this backflip might be useful if you can win the 50/50

[JasonWazza]

For when this gets questioned at end game, no this is legitimate annoyance.

[JasonWazza]

I mean you either claim JK/Cop or you claim tracker yeah, JK being hidden is probably fine, but i definitely need the cop to counter if they exist.

[JasonWazza]

I mean at this point, we are definitely in JK game, and JK didn't target you.

We just need a lim on Drew/Merlyn to win most likely.

[JasonWazza]

JK is between Alianna, Drew and Eektor.

[JasonWazza]

Shoot doctor drew

[JasonWazza]

Now that i'm at my computer, sorry that i had to rush that, kinda looked like you were getting limmed no matter what, and dropping the hammer and trying to stop the conversation somewhat is beneficial.

Hopefully Drew doesn't jail me, for all his not thinking i'm town, surely i'm not his top scum read, if i am, i don't even understand why.

[JasonWazza]

So this is an easy win.

Can't wait to see what happens when the game is shown for what it is.

[JasonWazza]

Shoot usesPython

Also happy for there to be a quick night.

[JasonWazza]

or well, vote whoever as long as you're not paranoia braining it. Game should be easily solvable

I think i have this solved, i just don't think you will like the solution.