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Post #3 (isolation #2) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:42 pm
Postby Menalque »
What are you thinking with the townflips? One thing we talked about overnight was that imag might be town too bc of the wagon comp being basically the same as rad
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Post #4 (isolation #3) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:43 pm
Postby Menalque »
But we didn’t discuss the staeg townflip yet, and the ceph townflip is kinda immaterial here — well maybe not, I need to look at his reads, but I suspect that was a vig shot
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Post #8 (isolation #5) » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:53 pm
Postby Menalque »
Jingle told me to claim JK or something to you here and then I was gonna add someone scummy on N2 and then potentially CC a scummy JK claim where you could then back me up that I was neighbouriser
Idk, I’m not 100% sure how it was meant to work, but it sounded both cool and fun when jingle was describing it lol
In post 10, Menalque wrote:
Also did you not notice the crumbs where I was telling you I was gonna neighbourise you
is it all "hurr durr i'll tell you later"? i wasn't thinking about neighbourizer crumbs bc why would anyone crumb that lol
Well, no, but that was what I was alluding to there — the bit where I was talking about 892 was basically me trying to tell you not to PGO me if you had that lmao
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Post #27 (isolation #14) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:15 am
Postby Menalque »
In post 24, Datisi wrote:
cursory glance at vote counts - assuming i'm not wrong on you (i'm not wrong on you, right?? right?????)
This is encouraging, your lack of any paranoia was starting to make me a bit paranoid lol
I know this is mostly joke-y too tho, I think, I think I’m unfortunately a lot more polarised than I used to be between town and scum, I just struggle so hard to sustain effort as scum
In post 24, Datisi wrote:
cursory glance at vote counts - assuming i'm not wrong on you (i'm not wrong on you, right?? right?????)
This is encouraging, your lack of any paranoia was starting to make me a bit paranoid lol
I know this is mostly joke-y too tho, I think, I think I’m unfortunately a lot more polarised than I used to be between town and scum, I just struggle so hard to sustain effort as scum
it's kinda jokey because like. i dunno. my thoughts on this game are very scrambled right now, and my current ways of reading you are gonna be reading how much effort/thought you put in the main thread, and how nuanced your thoughts are gonna be here.
so i think i'm just gonna be taking everything you say here at face value and seeing where it leads us. that's how i played when i was lover with guiltylion in a dance game, and i managed to get to a correct read on him, so
I think I’m just going to be trying to trust my initial read as valid and not get too paranoid lol
Although in elo, if we get there, I guess I’ll have to do my due diligence on everyone as always
In post 30, Menalque wrote:
Koba specifically thinks that the EoD for ali is really clearing from how e reacted to ythan
did they say why? i don't see what's supposed to be Really Clearing there
Thinks that e reacted as e would more as someone who genuinely believes that ythan is throwing than as someone faking that
Thinks that the claim of what e went for was also towny worried about dying vibes and not having got/given any good info for town to continue to work off
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Post #46 (isolation #24) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:25 am
Postby Menalque »
Nah, i think Mith is town and there’s nothing that’s really made me change my mind on that, I’m very solid on that read and think he’s basically part of my locktown group today (you, ali, mith)
I’d quite happily kill gimli and I kinda think he’s scumposting today but haven’t been able to fully concentrate on what he’s been saying today yet
In post 46, Menalque wrote:
I’d quite happily kill gimli and I kinda think he’s scumposting today but haven’t been able to fully concentrate on what he’s been saying today yet
i utterly hate the shit he's saying today but i'm like, unsure if it's because it's just objectively trash or because i'm an omgusser
if you wanna wagon gimli with me, i am happy to vote there
Koba and jingle have actually swung back to lld being the best option for today, idk what you think about that
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Post #59 (isolation #30) » Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:33 am
Postby Menalque »
In post 57, Datisi wrote:
lol yeah, i was thinking cop too, but mostly bc cop seemed like the role that's most likely to get grabbed early twice, like i know a game of pypss that i modded where that happened
Okay so our logic is that staeg was refusing to claim, and that makes sense if he picked ascetic cop and knew that if he outed as VT then scum would potentially know that ythan was not only PR but also couldn’t be doc’d if staeg could be pinned down on what he went for
They’re actually thinking that it’s actually plausible that both lld and ythan are scum
I’m not sure I fully understand why yet myself lol so you’re gonna have to give me a sec before I report back with more details
But I remember jingle going on about how lld is terrified of mech guilties/clears and so if ythan were selecting for scum then she’d probably be pressured by lld to go for something like that to deny it to town
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Post #68 (isolation #33) » Wed May 03, 2023 12:17 am
Postby Menalque »
day trip was really nice, thank! we went to a small city called Segovia and wandered around and looked at things and I ate a delicious strawberry tart and then delicious arepas
successful day
what's the bad vibes on Ali v mith? actually don't tell me yet, I wanna read myself and see if we're seeing the same thing
In post 59, Menalque wrote:
But I remember jingle going on about how lld is terrified of mech guilties/clears and so if ythan were selecting for scum then she’d probably be pressured by lld to go for something like that to deny it to town
ehhh, i believe lld is scared of mech results, but i don't think she's the only one. like i think most scum players who have a teammate in the first spot would at least have a thought about how their buddy should maybe take the cop to deny it to town, i don't think that'd be especially unique to scum-lld
okay, I mean any mech results can be scary as scum, but I think there's no player in this game who believes as much in their scumgame's social side as much as lld does, and therefore it makes sense that she's more afraid of being guilted by someone in a way that ends her definitively than she is of going to war with anyone who's trying to case or wagon her. I think this is the idea behind what jingle was getting at and that for that reason she's comparatively more likely to prioritise killing town!PRs and less likely to kill players for thread control (whereas I would normally do reverse, I'm less scared of being caught by a PR normally vs having to spend days in a war against someone who's going to be a huge pain in the ass when I'm scum)
In post 63, Datisi wrote:
now i'm thinking, and assuming we're correct about ythan being cop...
ythan does not seem like she's trying to soft any sort of results?
obviously i'm not gonna say this in thread because lmao if i'm wrong about it, but it is A Bit Odd
yeah, especially bc if she had been RB'd then she should be yelling about imag being scum, and.. isn't
only other possibility is I think if she was JK'd? which, I guess maybe? but potentially blocking the top PR slot is also bad play from a JK which seems unlikely to happen here given that teams would advise on the PR use and it wouldn't be possible (or way less likely) for one bad decision to get through
In post 71, Menalque wrote:
dats i stg if you're scum after the posts on page 109 or 110 I'm gonna kill u
all my posts are amazing obv, but which ones do you have in mind here
The bits where you’re talking about how murdering BP claims is a good idea bc town should obviously choose cop and also the bit where you point out how the Mith language thing is probably indicative of Mith town if anything at all bc of how unconvincing it is to anyone
In post 69, Menalque wrote:
does this mean she's going up or down in reads?
that meant she was going down
i think it was about her "ythan is scum bc no active scum bc staeg didn't go through" which i found to be backwards thinking as i have explained in thread like 3 times at this point
Yah but I didn’t get to that bit properly yet so be patient w me
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Post #87 (isolation #44) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:00 pm
Postby Menalque »
Okay so i want to the only thing that’s holding me back is that did imag just townslip or is that really easy to fake and I’m reading too much into it??
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Post #88 (isolation #45) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:01 pm
Postby Menalque »
I also think that Bella was one of the people resistant to imag yesterday but open to rad which is potentially scummy and partner indicative but we need to flip imag to know that
If imag is town too then we’ve been hard wrong since D1 and the game needs a big re-eval
If imag is scum then I think someone who was resisting the wagon on him but okay with either staeg or rad is scum too and that puts us in a good spot
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Post #90 (isolation #47) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:10 pm
Postby Menalque »
Koba thinks that imag/bella/ythan a possibility maybe subbing in gimli for one
But I kinda think ythan’s approach to this is town? Idk, I believe the way she’s approaching the game and being pissed off and burned out after a fight and just being like “fuck you I’m gonna play how I want” is mostly a town reaction?
So I’m actually wondering about like imag/bella/mara where maybe gimli could go in if I’m wrong
Gimli im personally undecided on and koba and jingle disagree, jingle thinks prob town koba thinks good odds of scum but not top pick
In post 87, Menalque wrote:
Okay so i want to the only thing that’s holding me back is that did imag just townslip or is that really easy to fake and I’m reading too much into it??
oh yeah, who were the people that voted not-imag, marashu and alisae...
i think if imag!scum, there's 1-2 scum in bella/mara (easy mode), maybe scum in mith/ali (hard mode), alternatively someone i'm missing rn but hopefully game levels out via prs or something? what are ythan/gimli associates with imag? meh we do that after flip
And Bella! She didn’t vote rad but she unvoted and was previously on staeg
Idk I’m starting to think a poe of (imag/Bella/mara/gimli) is very possibly winning
In post 90, Menalque wrote:
But I kinda think ythan’s approach to this is town? Idk, I believe the way she’s approaching the game and being pissed off and burned out after a fight and just being like “fuck you I’m gonna play how I want” is mostly a town reaction?
maybe, i am definitely not confident on her being scum or anytihng (reminder that i still have to check some games but it's 2:17 i'm studying for 2 tests at the same time it's not happening now - to my vague memory she was pretty useless there as scum)
Like I think the votes on her are more from not playing than from actually being scummy?
I don’t think it’s impossible she’s scum but also like… idk if she’s invested enough in mafia overall anyway as a past time to fight lld like that on d1 when they’re RL friends when she’s scum
In post 87, Menalque wrote:
Okay so i want to the only thing that’s holding me back is that did imag just townslip or is that really easy to fake and I’m reading too much into it??
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Post #102 (isolation #52) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:30 pm
Postby Menalque »
Lmao I’m sure nobody would have noticed that
Uh
Should we be talking in the main thread tho? Idk I like talking here I’m kinda sad we have to add someone tomorrow
I mean I guess technically not but kinda
Who would you want atp btw? I know I technically have final say but I view it as a collaborative process and I’d like to add someone we could both vibe with
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Post #107 (isolation #55) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm
Postby Menalque »
I’m going to say now that I’m not adding anyone you expressly don’t want me to add because I want to win but I also want to have fun and honestly despite how busy I am having a PT with you is easily like tripling the fun of the game
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Post #109 (isolation #57) » Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm
Postby Menalque »
Essentially — we’re choosing anyone else we add (kinda want to add someone as a hedge on one of us dying if nothing else) together and you have a veto on anyone you really don’t want here
In post 107, Menalque wrote:
I’m going to say now that I’m not adding anyone you expressly don’t want me to add because I want to win but I also want to have fun and honestly despite how busy I am having a PT with you is easily like tripling the fun of the game
awww
but yeah agreed, if it weren't for this pt i think i would've said mean words in this game already
Am v glad to hear that the hood has also been positive experience for you and that has helped a bit with some of the general mafia frustrations
Honestly feel that we’ve kinda been slacking given we’re not at like 15 pages yet
In post 109, Menalque wrote:
Essentially — we’re choosing anyone else we add (kinda want to add someone as a hedge on one of us dying if nothing else) together and you have a veto on anyone you really don’t want here
Cool?
i'm not too worried about one of us dying and thus the hood being unproven because it's not like the hood means anything (alignment wise) in the first place
but yeah i agree with that
I could see one of us dying if imag scum? But also the nice thing is that if there’s doubt on either of us and the other has died then if there’s a third person they could corroborate any reads given by the one who died during the night post-flip