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Well shit, this is not a good sign.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I'ma be honest, figured there was a chance Invis was scum, figured there was a decent possibility you were scum, didn't think you'd be scum together, that throws all my readslist for the first 400 posts straight into the bin as unusable. (this is at around post 400 of reading)
I'll give you more usable stuff once i fully catch up now that i know the sort of thing i'm now dealing with.
But never to worry, i have had worse situations to attempt to get my way out of, just might take a second re-read to reshift my reads in a useful way.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Oh day play should be a breeze honestly, we are in a great spot for where we should be, like we should absolutely be up shit creek, but this game went so damn shit so quickly that it looks like a fairly free win.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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towwl
Mafiabat* - Mafia Goon
Deltabreedy
GuerillaWoo - Vanilla Townie
overseer's Slot - Vanilla Townie
Bazuf
Malakittens (SE)
JasonWazza (SE) - Mafia Goon
Black (SE)
Surface read tells me Masons probably aren't on the table, meaning Cop/Jailkeeper.
Bazuf reads like possibly a Newb PR (though i need to relook for that at a later time).Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I don't think we should target Towwl at all, that feels like a free wagon waiting to be used tomorrow.
Bazuf just seems overly worried about liming due to PR stuff, and it feels odd for a mostly newb player to be focused on that if their role PM doesn't show a PR.
And they seemed to not necessarily have noticed that this isn't Town Of Salem, and thus that them having a PR is uncommon (even more so in this setup).Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Wanted to follow up on this now that i'm a bit more caught up, just relax and play your way, this game is in a fine state right now, literally no one is free of suspicion entirely, and the only real threat i think we face, is a Cop existing, and frankly without a guilty, that cop isn't even going to cause a big issue.In post 36, Mafiabat wrote: Do you think we can get anyone during the day after Guerilla/overseer?
And even with a guilty, we have plenty of outs to play with.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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You should be placing your vote on Bulge to keep consistent.
We don't actually want to directly be influencing the person who is ultimately limmed, let town do that, we have no money in this race, we play the long game.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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This is getting really spicy really quick.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Note don't be worried about votes going on you, just keep playing your angle, Pink is just asking for votes on themselves.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Nah let this day continue, this shit show honestly just helps us tomorrow.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Nah i think we just got black replaced with pure chaos honestly.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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i don't think we are getting a no lim, but a Delta lim would actually be fucking hilarious.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I actually think you are better to just sit and let this play.
I think town might run this flash wagon on it's own, and at most me joining it seems fine.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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And by this i mean, keep reading, don't post.In post 57, JasonWazza wrote: sit and let this play.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I will say, i have a feeling Delta will be mad when it turns out that he is entirely just mad with town, not scum.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I kinda want to shoot Pink tonight, because i think that will place this game into even more chaos and probably push our agendas better.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I think it's possible it's Bazuf, my thinking for Pink is that Bazuf is a minor threat even with a PR, whereas Pink would be way more threatening if they are in any way a Cop/Jailkeeper (a Cop result on Guerilla/You is bad for us from them)
And keeping Pink for a Mislim here doesn't really help us.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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To add the information we have gained.In post 39, JasonWazza wrote: towwl
Mafiabat* - Mafia Goon
Deltabreedy - Vanilla Townie
GuerillaWoo - Vanilla Townie
overseer's Slot - Vanilla Townie
Bazuf
Malakittens (SE)
JasonWazza (SE) - Mafia Goon
Pink Ball (SE)Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I mean we don't care if a hammer doesn't occur, scum actually gain from a no lim.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Reason to always Lim for town.
9 Players;
7v2.
6v2 Mislim D1
5v2 NK N1
4v2 Mislim D2
3v2 NK N2
Town are now forced to always be accurate.
7v2 No Lim D1
6v2 NK N1
5v2 Mislim D2
4v2 NK N2, Forced no Lim D3 (if they lim wrong it's a loss)
3v2 NK N3
If they no lim, and we don't miss a NK, we get to control 3 kills, and Town only controls 1 before having to be 100% accurate.
Whereas with a lim, we only get to control 2 kills, and Town gets to control 2 before having to be 100% accurate.
This is why you'll find we say, even a mislim is better then nothing, because the alternative is giving control of the entire game to scum.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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God i really wish i could see the Dead thread when Pink ends up being the body tomorrow.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I probably shouldn't have, but this made me laugh my ass off.In post 1273, towwl wrote: I figured it out on my own!!!! >:(
I'd almost feel bad for questioning your intellect of finding the Slip if it weren't really funny.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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This actually might fix our problem with a potential cop to allow us to stall an extra day hunting for them, which is nice.Pink Ball wrote: If Delta flips red, cop on Mafiabat. If green, cop on meReturning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Killer: JasonWazza Target: Pink BallReturning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Reasoning for Towwl;In post 65, JasonWazza wrote:
To add the information we have gained.In post 39, JasonWazza wrote: towwl - If a PR probably Cop
Mafiabat* - Mafia Goon
Deltabreedy - Vanilla Townie
GuerillaWoo - Vanilla Townie
overseer's Slot - Vanilla Townie
Bazuf - If a PR probably Jailkeeper
Malakittens (SE)
JasonWazza (SE) - Mafia Goon
Pink Ball (SE)
Assuming C, means it's very likely he only checked the Cop squares, rather then the Jailkeeper Squares, TMI was kicking in and that's why he only focused on the Cop centric side of things.
Reasoning for Bazuf;
Is there a cop post, almost feels like posting too quick, and just posting his thoughts instantly, which were "wait can there be a cop in a JK setup?"
I'd almost make Pink Ball a guaranteed VT if i didn't think that he was mostly just baiting with the cop request in twilight, which it feels like he may have been.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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And for town in the post game 74 is the sort of reason you don't make everyone claim.
We as a mafia team basically have the town sorted, and if this was a 2 PR game, we'd have this down to an even better science, because it'd be 2 of the 4 possible targets.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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This post from Towwl also could be him trying to soft his role as well, which doubles down on if Towwl has a PR it's cop.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Outcomes for Day 2 start and things to keep note of.
Pink dies and flips VT
Pink dies and flips cop
Pink dies and flips Jailkeeper
No one dies.
These are our 4 outcomes, the only one to have any worry about is no one dies, as any PR coming from pink is basically a win for us.
In the case of no one dies, we can rule out cop and only have to consider Jailkeeper, this likely makes Towwl a VT, and means either Pink is a VT or Pink Jailkept exactly me (unlikely).
Note for you Bat, continue just playing your game, don't change style, don't massively change your thinking, just play like you don't have our info, and don't be overly worried about any votes, just continue "scum hunting" as standard, we aren't in a tight spot, and can play around basically anything that can happen.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Just going to point out i think we have a solve.In post 74, JasonWazza wrote:In post 65, JasonWazza wrote:
To add the information we have gained.In post 39, JasonWazza wrote: towwl - Vanilla Townie
Mafiabat* - Mafia Goon
Deltabreedy - Vanilla Townie
GuerillaWoo - Vanilla Townie
overseer's Slot - Vanilla Townie
Bazuf - Vanilla Townie
Malakittens (SE) Cop with guilty on Bat.
JasonWazza (SE) - Mafia Goon
Pink Ball (SE) Vanilla TownieReturning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Bat if your there, insta-hammer Bazuf if you can.
In post 77, Mafiabat wrote: PingReturning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Issue is Mala is cop with a guilty on you, both Towwl and Bazuf just softed VT.
And i don't think Intent will be allowed to go through this early, which will allow Mala to take control of the day.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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definitely try and frame it best you can, but we shoot Mala tonight, and the guilty will be obvious.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I mean getting you out of the D3 lim will be... hard, but if you can convince 1 singular person to vote with you, we get a hammer.
But likelihood is this leads to a D4 win, it's mostly just letting Mala any chance to get a claim out leads to you getting limed D2 which would make it way harder for me to pull a win.
And Mala was very unlikely to let this sort of thing get through today, and i don't think Towwl was necessarily going to allow an intent now, which would be bad for us long term.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I mean we can't really risk Mala being alive.
And it's a Cop/VT game so we can just shoot Mala.
Hopefully Mala doesn't say anything else, because at the very least, the last post actually makes you safe.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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This was an even dumber outcome, why is Bazuf basically saying that we are going to lim him as cop?Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Killer JasonWazza Shoot Towwl
Fast night is an ok for me.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Also sorry Bat, i miscalculated that a little.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I mean Bazuf having me pegged doesn't mean much, because thankfully he was consistently OMGUSing so no one will take that seriously.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Though also as baffling is how many people decided to basically soft claim their role.
Like Towwl calling out Bazuf for saying he is fine to die, and calling him a VT and saying that's too many is a really bad thing to actually voice.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Just as a note, for this day, it'd be defend yourself if you can, don't actually say anything about reads on other players.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Apparently you should just play as normal, because people are actually considering it's possible you are town.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Frankly i have had no idea what is going on in this game for a while now.
On the plus side i think we win regardless of what happens today.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Shoot GuerillaReturning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Actually also
Request for fast nightReturning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I really do want to commit and vote Mala, feels like best chance at the win to try and sway Bulge quickly, might fuck myself by not doing it right now, but i just can't commit apparently.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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God I forgot the old feeling of ELO voting, even as scum i don't really like the feeling, the feeling that you have potentially fucked everything up with a vote that doesn't make sense.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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I almost feel bad how much I am gaslighting Mala right now.
But hey, give me ammo and i will shoot.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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