Newbie 2127 Dead Thread

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You have died! Oh well.

People with access:
PenguinPower
MikhailTal
JasonWazza
Datisi
Snix
the worst

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Hi MikhailTal!

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Hi Jason!

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Almost feel like they need to put a quick tip about countdown tags in that newbie intro post thingie

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I will note this for you though, you can claim what I have said, but claiming to be quoting me word for word is against the rules (I'll note it's not in Skygazer's rules but the rule is generally something like; Do not quote or copy/paste from any PMs received from the moderator in thread or from any Private Topics unless explicitly allowed by me. You may paraphrase. @Skygazer if your reading this please don't add this to the rules right now or you will actively give away Mason's.)

I think PP once suggested to phrase it like this, which is in my ruleset:

- Do not take any action that attempts to prove the existence of private game communications. You are allowed to claim that these communications exist as long as you do not attempt to provide evidence.

But I could probably stand to make it a little more explicit!

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Sorry you keep dying N1. It's fun to watch you play!

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Mikhail your posting style gives me life and I'm sorry everyone attacked you over it

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gosh

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Spoiler: this comment from me will spew some alignments

a lot going on this game. very crazy very cool. drama, replacements, death, 1 townie killed, 1 mason murdered, It's so delicious it's fattening. This game isn't a logic game but a social game. there are varied reasons and complex ones and silly ones for voting someone out. mikhailtal died because he didn't want to conform which I accept but I believe scum probably took advantage of this and voted them on their way out, I want to believe this, it's unfortunate that mikhailtal did not play toward their goal for a town win and voted themselves maybe allowing scum to not be on the wagon at all. I think if mikhail tal didn't vote for themselves it is highly likely the scum is 100% on the wagon. In short I can't say for certain that scum was on the wagon at all. I think delta waffling actually indicates town behavior. I think ct not doing anything d1 and tunneling me all day for 10 days needs to be reexamined I think claptastiks slot needs to be reexamined as well. I think independently delta's vote on mikhail tal isn't necessarily bad. I think independently bazuf's vote is bad. I still think kkfc is suspicious for always wanting town cred. never would I have imagined dwarf as the second mason if he was cc'd I would have probably voted him, depending on who cc'd him of course. From what I've read a lot of people are calling bazuf town so I think wisdom of the crowd applies and he can just be town even if mafia are calling him town it should still be good. usespython makes a strong case of meta for why kkfc is town I'm willing to entertain it for the purposes of narrowing the pool of suspects especially if kkfc is paranoid about dying as town since apparently it happened to them last game so they want to ensure they get town cred for the townie things they do.

From that I'm left with chicago usespython and delta as possible scum. Very cool.

usespython do you town read or scum read chicago? tell me why, which posts indicate that they are town or scum, and who I should be voting if not chicago. I see you are voting delta as well if you were to explain your case on them in a few sentences what would it be?

it's hard to separate what is a good argument that people are making when quite possibly emotions are mixed in I think I should just ignore the exchanges of usespython delta and kfc the last few pages especially with all the shade usespython is throwing at me without voting me but that's okay. I hope for a productive discussion.

wow this is such a good post!!

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Spoiler: this will definitely spoil one scum

usesPython was on the scum team and their partner is now requesting to just concede and be done with the game... I can't say I blame them, and I sort of wish I could, but I don't usually allow concessions unless there's absolutely no path forward for scum (which is a rarity...)

big sigh

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I agree with you there. Would rather just have another rep out than call the game. It seems like they don't want to rep out, though, so that's good.

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Just to clarify for the newbies: there was like almost three days left on the day one deadline when the hammer dropped, the countdown tags keep the deadline up to date in each vote count no matter when you look at it. Whoever happened to say that there were 17 hours left at hammer time just happened to look at the deadline when there was 17 hours left.

Honestly might toy around with my votecount formatting to make it more obvious; something like the actual time and date of the deadline in parentheses might work?

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I've struggled with whether or not I should like address the toxicity this game has had in depth in the dead thread (honestly most people who have been on this site a significant period of time have seen worse but this is the worst I've seen in a game I've modded... I might be lucky in that regard).

I guess all I have to say is this: mafia and therapy have both taught me it's better to "respond" than it is to "react." That is to say, this is forum mafia, we have the luxury of stepping away and reapproaching a situation with a less flustered mind, and doing so can lead to healthier interactions. Naturally there's going to be conflict and manipulation. You can even have an abrasive personality and people will still love to play with you if you do it tastefully. But knowing how to go about this game respectfully is important for everyone's enjoyment, and if you don't figure out how to do that, you'll start to see people "/out" when you join the queue, wind up on blacklists, have mods WotC you, etc.

I have no interest in calling anyone out specifically at the moment, but that's just my two cents. I'm not saying you have to be a saint either; I've had someone assume that I had to be town because I'd "be a horrible person" for attempting an AtE I did as scum. I was scum and they got over it. I'm just saying that knowing how to not take things too far is a really important part of playing this game.

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I don't know what you used to be like but I find your playstyle very effective! I wish I could have your thread control skills

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omg not the homophobia allegations

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ironically i think people were only calling themselves the c word... still not a great vibe

i think people are just lazy and don't wanna spend a lot of time deciphering, but your posts weren't that hard to read imo

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out of all of the gamed on mafiascum, this sure is one of them

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PC do you think Snix is town?

Delta do you think PC is town?

don't answer him delta make him answer my question first. we've had a back and forth now it's time to put up or shut up.

If you can't parse my opinion based on the words I've already said I'll spell it out for you. T O W N. and bad for it.

now that the kings request has been granted delta can answer my very simple question.

We've already had snark in your slot and it killed my appetite for the game, can we maybe chill

Sorry, I tend to answer in kind. He called me queen earlier in the thread so I figured it fitting. I'll try to keep my conduct game related but I'm going to defend myself.

now you have a problem with how gay people talk? okay.

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Spoiler: this comment spoils both scum

ducky coming in hot and voting the entire scum team makes me sad he'll only be here for 36 hours

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Spoiler:

yeahhhh sometimes scum just gets absolutely shafted by replacements. i've seen weirder things happen tho and maybe scum can get lucky and wiggle their way out... i'm thinking if/when the worst dies town might lose some cohesion so maybe they have a shot! but ye not likely imo either

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hi snix!

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good 36 hours, ducky!

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if chicagotypewriter votes bazuf we would have quite a votecount

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game over

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