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Post Post #38 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:09 pm

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Yo, DE70's in here right? I think he has something to tell everyone.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:13 pm

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In post 30, usesPython wrote: Rough draft of the Inquiry question:
Is Being X capable of doing any of the following:
  • Playing chess with Ranger at night
  • Forcibly placing Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  • Taking a Publishing Traffic Analyst action night 1
I'd like to modify that last bit to be less specific. "Taking an action that gives public results" accounts for the possibility of it not being SPECIFICALLY a Traffic Analyst
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Post Post #41 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:18 pm

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That should work
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Post Post #42 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:18 pm

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Also, KKFC should NOT target Abnegation. We might have lied about her being one shot.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:25 pm

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Thoughts on Ircher's actual role? I agree the flavor implies he was recruited, but I think the actual role seems scummy. Which implies he was the last living scum, and Cult is all that's left
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Post Post #47 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:28 pm

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Would a non-recruited Traitor count as living partner?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:29 pm

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In post 47, Radical Rat wrote: Would a non-recruited Traitor count as living partner?
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Post Post #55 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:54 pm

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There is one other very strong contender for Cult Leader.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 1:55 pm

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I'll let him speak for himself first though
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Post Post #61 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:22 pm

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I'll say it was done with consent, though it's since shaped up to be a worse idea than it seemed.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:21 am

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Go for it. I'd hoped he'd explain himself, but we are on a time limit.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:40 am

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Technically the Backrooms wasn't the cult hood, but it WAS generated by cult. And it's REALLY weird to me that we have two of them.

But yeah, we have way more of both investigative AND protective claims than anticipated, so the idea of him baiting the kill is unlikely at this point. Especially not since he went and claimed Bomb in the thread anyway for........ some reason.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:41 am

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Fortress Sanctuary, same as last game
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Post Post #74 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:48 am

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Indeed it would... and claiming Bomb in thread when he KNOWS getting shot is the goal sure doesn't look like baiting a kill to me.

I don't trust him, and I find it extremely unlikely that we have TWO Town Backrooms Neighborhoods now. I think the whole Marshall thing with KKFC is weird, but nonsensical as a lie, and I don't think he'd just sit on sheep if cult? It is of course POSSIBLE that he just culted both sheep and Ircher, and didn't claim it on Ircher for obvious reasons, but.

Between the two, I favor KKFC as Town.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:48 am

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In post 72, usesPython wrote:
In post 3549, Korina wrote:
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Liminal Space
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Unless the game started with 2+ Cult the fact that KKFC/sheep/Abnegation/DragonEater are all claiming Backrooms makes me think the Backrooms flavor isn't related to Cult and makes me feel way better about KKFC/sheep since they'd have had to deliberately look at the past game, see the hood was called the Backrooms and then claim it as Cult.

Actually when did KKFC/sheep claim the PT's called the backrooms?
During massclaim KKFC said "Backrooms Designer" which is... very similar to "Liminal Space Designer" but distinct.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:48 am

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DE70 needs to claim his role name when he gets in here.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:52 am

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Also Abnegation has rolecop available.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:59 am

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I think we need to use the alignment checks on Snivy/StD, as the outstanding members of Kirigiri's proposal.

Rolecop to double check StD for Godfather, and Inquiry on one of KKFC/DE70?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #18) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:03 am

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Cult Leader trying to buy our protection since he (probably) can't recruit us
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Also wouldn't mind trading StD's alignment check for one on Rauth. I believe Rauth's claim, but it's a pretty scumsided power set I think.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #20) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:12 am

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In post 91, usesPython wrote:
In post 87, Radical Rat wrote: Cult Leader trying to buy our protection since he (probably) can't recruit us
Why wouldn't Cult be able to recruit Masons?
Because scum can't be in the masonry. It's a PT with guaranteed alignment, and it runs into the same issue as recruiting from a scumteam when the recruit can out all of their former partners.

Korina wouldn't answer directly about recruitment, but did say letting scum in a masonry would be beyond acceptable levels of bastard, and since they also said we wouldn't be told if recruitment DID happen, that implies they'd stay in the masonry as scum, which was proclaimed impossible.

So I think we're safe on that front, though there is still a possibility I'm misinterpreting the information.
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As a precaution, Abnegation isn't allowed to Rolecop DE70, since there would always be a small seed of doubt on the reliability of the check.

But I think we're safe tbh.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #22) » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:19 am

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I forgot Snivy already claimed a check on StD
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Works for me. Unless you get/got recruited, but that can be dealt with later.

We're in a pretty good position tbh
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I'd have culted you if I were Cult Leader.

But the way I see it, even if you did get recruited, we'll just find the Leader by PoE, so I'm not SUPER worried about it.
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In post 114, DragonEater70 wrote: Sorry for not checking in earlier, I was enjoying my Saturday till now.
In post 24, usesPython wrote: i.e. Rauth Mafia/Ircher Cult or Rauth Cult/Ircher Mafia
I agree with this.
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Does your Detective get a guilty result if you target someone the same night they make a kill?
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VOTE: usesPython's Inquiry

I can also confirm Abnegation asked the question she claimed to and got the response she claimed to.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #28) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:20 am

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In post 191, usesPython wrote: I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor
If Ircher was originally Traitor, that means the scumteam only started with two members, since a Traitor would know the scumteam's identities and thus be disqualified from cult recruitment.

I find this difficult to believe in a 19 player game, but it is POSSIBLE, and would mirror the Masonry's setup.
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For tomorrow's Nightmare, barring any shenanigans, I think giving Python a Friendly Neighbor would be prudent.

Can be used on Ranger, who can reveal as IC, verifying tonight's result and both of your current alignments.

Contingent on both of you surviving anyway.
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Actually want to make a small amendment.

VOTE: Inquiry: Has Rautherdir ever been able to do any of the following:
  • Play chess with Ranger at night
  • Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  • Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post
    In post 2388, Korina wrote:
    Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!
    at the start of day 2


Just in case something was a one-shot, causing a false negative since Rautherdir wouldn't currently be able to do those things.
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In post 205, usesPython wrote:
In post 202, Radical Rat wrote: Actually want to make a small amendment.

VOTE: Inquiry: Has Rautherdir ever been able to do any of the following:
  • Play chess with Ranger at night
  • Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  • Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post
    In post 2388, Korina wrote:
    Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!
    at the start of day 2


Just in case something was a one-shot, causing a false negative since Rautherdir wouldn't currently be able to do those things.
They're logically identical statements, if any of those actions were from them but 1-shot then they're able to do it on that day/night otherwise it wouldn't have gone through
If the question is "Is X able to do Y" then it requires they currently have the ability to do so. "Has X ever been able to do Y" covers expired abilities.
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Post Post #209 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:12 am

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In post 51, Korina wrote:
In post 48, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 47, Radical Rat wrote: Would a non-recruited Traitor count as living partner?
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No, all scum must be aware of the identity of at least another living member to be rendered immune from cult.
Being aware of at least another living member is a condition fulfilled by Traitor as long as the main group is alive.
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Korina has already established being a stickler for specific phrasing (See Kirigiri getting responses saying how "an invention" could be blocked, despite it being very clear she meant Nightmare Invention, which we know can't be blocked), so I'd rather not leave any ambiguity
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Post Post #214 (isolation #34) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:26 am

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In post 10, Ranger wrote:
In post 2, usesPython wrote:The Publishing Traffic Analyst
I prefer this of those.
In post 15, sheepsaysmeep wrote: there was cult in n1 right
In post 57, Abnegation wrote:
In post 42, Radical Rat wrote: Also, KKFC should NOT target Abnegation. We might have lied about her being one shot.
yeah, we did a fair bit of lying lol.
In post 114, DragonEater70 wrote: Sorry for not checking in earlier, I was enjoying my Saturday till now.
In post 24, usesPython wrote: i.e. Rauth Mafia/Ircher Cult or Rauth Cult/Ircher Mafia
I agree with this.
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If it comes down to it, I can move my vote back, though I'd only consider it a true clear for the Chess aspect. If all three of us move, Ranger's vote left behind would be enough to hammer.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:25 am

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In post 224, KatyKimFanClub wrote:
In post 221, usesPython wrote: Twilight hit so we're claiming Flea's invention:
In post 3209, Flea The Magician wrote: Suppose Id better contribute a bit.

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Post Post #232 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:50 pm

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Much obliged
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