[Nightmare III] Weird Dreams Mafia

[usesPython]

Things we can still inquiry for:

Drew Nightmare Decider

Plays chess at night?

The Publishing Traffic Analyst

[usesPython]

Yeah no one claimed those actions so those are scum actions

[usesPython]

I once had a dream that the strange little oddity had finally found me, and made me join it. Together, we stood stronger, more powerful than either one of us could on our own.

Ircher was executed Day 3. He was a

Dark Miasma (Cult Passive Contingent Random Redirector)

.

Spoiler: Ircher PM

Dark Miasma

Strange Dreams Mafia Redux

I once had a dream that the strange little oddity had finally found me, and made me join it. Together, we stood stronger, more powerful than either one of us could on our own.

Welcome

Ircher

! You are a

Dark Miasma (Cult Passive Contingent Random Redirector)

, and aligned with

The Liminal Space

.

Innate Abilities:

~

Unique

: Your role is Unique, and cannot appear again in this game under any circumstances.
~

Passive Contingent Random Redirector

: Provided no players not aligned with

The Good Dreams

have died, you will automatically redirect any actions targeted at you to a different player. The target player will be randomly selected from all living players.
~

Backup Contingency

: Once a player not aligned with

The Good Dreams

dies, you will become a 1-Shot Bus Driver instead.

Factional Information

:
~

[REDACTED]

Victory Condition

:
~ You win if all threats to

Liminal Space

are dead and your faction is at least half the living players, or if this situation is impossible to prevent.

Spoiler: Morning Tweet

Liminal Space Designer

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, Morning Tweet! You are a

Liminal Space Designer (Bulletproof Neighborizer and 2-Shot Mentor)

, and aligned with

The Liminal Space.

I had a dream once that someone was able to design a room between reality. They asked me to join them, and told me one way or another I'd join them. Everyone would join them, or else they'd perish. I still think about that man hidden between the folds of reality. I wonder if he's still waiting for me to give him my answer.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Bulletproof

: If you are attacked at night, you will automatically survive the attempt.
~

Neighborizer

: Each night, you may target another player and attempt to add them to

The Backrooms

, a neighborhood.
~

Mentor

: If you do not currently have a Mentee, twice per game, you may attempt to recruit someone to the Liminal Space faction. They will retain all current abilities. This ability will fail on groupscum with living partners. Attached below is a sample Mentee PM.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to the Liminal Space PT, which is located here.
~

Conditional Kill

: If you have a living Mentee, you or your Mentee may preform the factional kill at night.

You win if

all players not aligned with you are dead; if all living players are in The Backrooms PT; or if either situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

Spoiler: Sample Mentee

Sample Mentee

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome CoMod! You are now a

Liminal Space Mentee (One-Way Lover)

, and aligned with

The Liminal Space.

That person sitting between the rooms finally came back to me. He asked for my option, and held a gun to my head. I had to make the decision for myself, and I accepted his offer. When I woke up, I found myself in my room, but something felt different.

Your personal abilities remain the same as they once were, including the new ability:
~

Default

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

One Way Lover

: If Korina dies for any reason, you will automatically follow suit; however, Korina will not die if you die.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to the Liminal Space PT, which is located here.
~

Scumbuddy Identity

: You know that Korina is a Liminal Space Designer (Bulletproof Neighborizor and 2-Shot Mentor).
~

Conditional Kill

: While you are alive, you have access to a factional kill, and you or Korina may preform it at night.

You win if

all players not aligned with you are dead; if all living players are in The Backrooms PT; or if either situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

The flavor seems to imply Ircher was recruited

[usesPython]

It's possible that Ranger is playing against a bot or Korina for chess, so I would prefer to ask about #1 or #3. It's possible that both actions belong to the same player.

We can just make a long inquiry that covers if a person can/is doing any of those things

[usesPython]

Also it's extremely unlikely Ranger's playing against a bot, those were very human-like bad moves whereas a chess engine forced to play at low ELO will play extremely solid moves and then mix in bad moves that no human would ever make

[usesPython]

there was cult in n1 right

Very likely yes

[usesPython]

Groupscum with more than one living member can't be recruited so it might be best to leash KKFC to only target suspected Mafia to try to Alien the kill

[usesPython]

I'd like to note; if I had the time, I'd love to look at who called Ircher v Rauth scumVscum.

I certainly didn't believe Ircher was cult. I believed Ircher was groupscum. Those calling Ircher v Rauth scumVscum might've TMI'd.

Oh hey that was us.

[usesPython]

We figured Ircher outright calling out Rauths night actions in a way that implicates Ircher as non-Town made it groupscum vs groupscum

[usesPython]

i.e. Rauth Mafia/Ircher Cult or Rauth Cult/Ircher Mafia

[usesPython]

Groupscum with more than one living member can't be recruited so it might be best to leash KKFC to only target suspected Mafia to try to Alien the kill

I like this idea.
Before we do it though, is it possible to make a list of people in this game who can plausibly be CL at this point?

If we're being thorough then:

1. usesPython (Only confirmed to be not Mafia)
   
2. camelCasedSnivy
   
3. Morning Tweet
   
4. KatyKimFanClub
   
5. Save The Dragons (Cleared by Snivy)
   
6. Ranger (Can IC to clear herself)
   
7. sheepsaysmeep (Cleared by KKFC)
   
8. Flea The Magician
   
9. Rautherdir

[usesPython]

confirming Snivy and KKFC as town creates a winning POE of

1. Morning Tweet
   
2. Flea The Magician
   
3. Rautherdir

So that's kinda where I want to focus on rn

[usesPython]

god

whats the easiest way for me to get an understanding of current mechanics/poe

do I iso python/ranger in game thread or smn

Confirmed Town (Masons):

• Radical Rat
  
• Abnegation
  
• DragonEater70

Can confirm as town at any point:

• Ranger (Activated IC, immune to Alignment changes before using IC)

Confirmed not Mafia:

• usesPython (Shot by Titus)

Confirmed as not Mafia + not Cult by other unconfirmed people:

• Save The Dragons (Confirmed by camelCasedSnivy [Alignment Cop check])
  
• sheepsaysmeep (Confirmed by KKFC [Alien'd the entire game])

Unconfirmed:

• camelCasedSnivy
  
• KatyKimFanClub
  
• Morning Tweet
  
• Rautherdir
  
• Flea The Magician

[usesPython]

Rough draft of the Inquiry question:

Is Being X capable of doing any of the following:

• Playing chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly placing Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking a Publishing Traffic Analyst action night 1

[usesPython]

Can probably reword it to be one long run-on sentence if necessary

[usesPython]

Gonna check the claim order in the morning, feels weird that Ircher didn't fakeclaim like Tracker or Watcher or even trueclaim Bus Driver and call out Rauth

[usesPython]

kinda want to leash sheep to use the cop invention on Snivy since they don't seem like they're on the same scumteam

[usesPython]

works even better since sheeps likely either Cult or Town and both of those want Mafia out here

[usesPython]

We've got 2 Mafia + Traitor + CL + 0-1 Cultists still alive so KKFC and Snivy can't both be town because then the POE is too small

[usesPython]

Rough draft of the Inquiry question:

Is Being X capable of doing any of the following:

• Playing chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly placing Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking a Publishing Traffic Analyst action night 1

I'd like to modify that last bit to be less specific. "Taking an action that gives public results" accounts for the possibility of it not being SPECIFICALLY a Traffic Analyst

Taking an action that causes (whatever was posted d2) to be posted by the moderator? In case it wasn't a check but instead just straight up telling the mod to post the message

[usesPython]

KKFC should be targeting suspected Mafia since he cant cult groupscum and the Alien might hit the person doing the nightkill. Should also post here who's getting alien'd since everyone here is confirmed to be not Mafia

[usesPython]

If he's faking the hood as cult then the lack of Cult PT outs the target as Mafia and KKFC as Cult

[usesPython]

Thoughts on Ircher's actual role? I agree the flavor implies he was recruited, but I think the actual role seems scummy. Which implies he was the last living scum, and Cult is all that's left

Traitor though? Unless you're implying there was just 2 Mafia this game and Ircher was Traitor?

[usesPython]

Yo, DE70's in here right? I think he has something to tell everyone.

There is one other very strong contender for Cult Leader.

I'll let him speak for himself first though

Oh god why is DragonEater faking being Mason

[usesPython]

I'll say it was done with consent, though it's since shaped up to be a worse idea than it seemed.

So did he neighborize you or Abnegation?

[usesPython]

Also just for completeness since the main thread asked about a Redirection and not a Bus Drive

@mod if Ircher used his 1-shot Bus Driver action to swap Player A and Player B on the same night Player C submits a Copy action targeting Player A, would Player C copy Player A or Player B?

[usesPython]

What's the Mason PT called?

[usesPython]

Victory Condition

:
~ You win if all threats to

Liminal Space

are dead and your faction is at least half the living players, or if this situation is impossible to prevent.[/mech][/spoiler]

Unless the game started with 2+ Cult the fact that KKFC/sheep/Abnegation/DragonEater are all claiming Backrooms makes me think the Backrooms flavor isn't related to Cult and makes me feel way better about KKFC/sheep since they'd have had to deliberately look at the past game, see the hood was called the Backrooms and then claim it as Cult.

Actually when did KKFC/sheep claim the PT's called the backrooms?

[usesPython]

yeah, dragon, why did you just randomly claim bomb?

It's pretty dumb but I think he only claims that way if Bomb is part of his PM

[usesPython]

Speaking of, we've got sheep with a cop invention, me with an unspecified green check invention, and the inquiry to use. Who are we checking?

[usesPython]

We should probably save Rolecop for the townie sounding roles, the complicated JOAT's are probably trueclaiming

1. usesPython:
   3-shot Day Motivator
   D1: Doctor Drew
   D2: camelCasedSnivy
   
2. camelCasedSnivy:
   3-shot Alignment Cop
   N1: No action
   N2: Checked Aureal [Town] and Save The Dragons [Town] (Motivated by usesPython)
   
3. Morning Tweet:
   Medium (Unique role)
   
4. Radical Rat:
   Mason 1-shot Vigilante
   N1: Shot Cat Scratch Fever
   
5. Abnegation:
   Mason 1-shot Rolecop
   N1: Targeted Ircher (Got the results for Radical Rat's role)
   
6. KatyKimFanClub:
   Neighborizing Marshall (basically Neighborizing Alien)
   N1: sheepsaysmeep
   N2: sheepsaysmeep
   
7. Save The Dragons:
   Unspecified investigative role
   N1: Checked Aureal [Town]
   N2: Targeted no one
   
8. Ranger:
   Doctor Activated Innocent Child
   N1: Healed usesPython (did not go through?)
   N2: Healed Radical Rat
   
9. sheepsaysmeep:
   Messenger
   
10. DragonEater70:
    JOAT (Bomb, Neighborizer, Detective)
    N1: No action
    N2: Neighborized Abnegation
    
11. Flea The Magician:
    Inventor
    N1: Gave invention to Save The Dragons
    N2: Gave invention to usesPython
    
12. Rautherdir:
    JOAT (Vigilante, Tracker, Absorber, Bus Driver)
    N1: Nothing
    N2: Absorber (Gained Vigilante from Radical Rat)

Snivy might be a good Rolecop?

[usesPython]

Yeah STD is probably also a good rolecop, no useful results + didn't even claim the exact role

[usesPython]

I feel a lot better about KKFC with the new info, we're down for DE inquiry

[usesPython]

what do you think de70 is?

If he's scum then Cult I think? I think he's pretty town but I'd rather get a check there to nail down the POE

[usesPython]

Cult Leader trying to buy our protection since he (probably) can't recruit us

Why wouldn't Cult be able to recruit Masons?

[usesPython]

i can see wanting the masonry’s protection during the day but i don’t think anyone would have been able to predict the number of protective roles. it feels way too risky to me, like what happens if he’s cl and actually eats the nk? he just loses.

What's the PoE after sheep copping Snivy, Python geenchecking DE, Abnegation rolecopping STD, Ranger revealing, and KKFC aliening in the remaining POE? Cause if it locks down the game then we can afford to be "inefficient" with inquiries

[usesPython]

Confirmed Town (Masons):

• Radical Rat
  
• Abnegation

Can confirm as town at any point:

• Ranger (Activated IC, immune to Alignment changes before using IC)

Confirmed not Mafia:

• usesPython (Shot by Titus)

Confirmed as not Mafia + not Cult by other unconfirmed people:

• Save The Dragons (Confirmed by camelCasedSnivy [Alignment Cop check])
  
• sheepsaysmeep (Confirmed by KKFC [Alien'd the entire game])

Unconfirmed:

• camelCasedSnivy
  
• KatyKimFanClub
  
• Morning Tweet
  
• Rautherdir
  
• Flea The Magician
  
• DragonEater70

Updated POE

[usesPython]

I think if Snivy is scum he's Mafia/Traitor and if KKFC/DE are scum they're Cult. If STD is scum he's Godfather. Copping Snivy, Rolecopping STD, greenchecking DE brings the POE to:

• sheepsaysmeep (Confirmed by KKFC [Alien'd the entire game])
  
• KatyKimFanClub
  
• Morning Tweet
  
• Rautherdir
  
• Flea The Magician

Which probably straight up solves the game?

[usesPython]

As a precaution, Abnegation isn't allowed to Rolecop DE70, since there would always be a small seed of doubt on the reliability of the check.

But I think we're safe tbh.

The invention we got can check for both scum and cult so we're gonna be aiming for cult here since we've got a lot of other anti-mafia checks available

[usesPython]

Works for me. Unless you get/got recruited, but that can be dealt with later.

We're in a pretty good position tbh

We'd have had to have been recruited before tonight, it'll publicly resolve before any of tonights recruitment actions

what exactly is your invention? alignment cop?

Given we're checking inside the PT we'd rather not say, you'll find out tomorrow

[usesPython]

i’m paranoid of cult!python lol.

We had a lot of influence over the game, why wouldnt we push Rauth d3 through dayplay instead of letting Ircher do his "Yeah I'm scum but Rauth is also scum" gambit if we thought Rauth was lying about night actions? If we didn't think Rauth was lying about night actions why would Ircher do the gambit instead of it being hashed out in Cult PT?

Actually that's a really good point, why didn't we get Culted n2? We were confirmed not Mafia, in a great position to influence the game, and unlikely to get shot by Mafia when they had to worry about Masons + Rangers IC

[usesPython]

If we think Ircher was recruited Mafia then he was converted n2, otherwise he could have been converted either night

[usesPython]

Works for me. Unless you get/got recruited, but that can be dealt with later.

We're in a pretty good position tbh

Night action has been sent.

[usesPython]

Who am I alien'ing.

Also, this is a twist.

I think if Snivy is scum he's Mafia/Traitor and if KKFC/DE are scum they're Cult. If STD is scum he's Godfather. Copping Snivy, Rolecopping STD, greenchecking DE brings the POE to:

• sheepsaysmeep (Confirmed by KKFC [Alien'd the entire game])
  
• KatyKimFanClub
  
• Morning Tweet
  
• Rautherdir
  
• Flea The Magician

Which probably straight up solves the game?

In the POE probably. Morning Tweet?

[usesPython]

Works for me. Unless you get/got recruited, but that can be dealt with later.

We're in a pretty good position tbh

Night action has been sent.

Also we should probably clarify that it's functionally a public "same alignment/not same alignment as Python" check so if there's Cult!Python paranoia the night actions may need to be reworked

[usesPython]

Also personally I'd rather use the nightmare to kill someone from the POE rather than for an inquiry.

I mean we have 3 different scum actions, chances are that if we're inquirying scum we'll get a guilty from it

[usesPython]

And also I would gain more info from neighborizing her than Python

What do you mean by this?

[usesPython]

Who do you guys want me to use my second detective shot on?

Aim for Mafia

[usesPython]

Does your Detective get a guilty result if you target someone the same night they make a kill?

I think it should, but I'll verify with Korina.

If it does then checking Rauth is pointless because even with a guilty he'll claim it's a vig shot

[usesPython]

Did they say they are going to shoot tonight though?

I'm taking this to mean he's shooting tonight, although it was pretty clearly him saying he'll shoot Ircher

... hmm. I think I know what to do now then, yes.

... hmm. I think I know what to do now then, yes.

You might as well say it aloud.

With a potential scum redirector in play? Nah.

There's no redirector.

I will claim what I did tomorrow in the event it isn't obvious, but trying to publicly aim a vig when a scum redirector, deflector, or other such is almost certainly in play is a good way to hand scum a free extra kill.

pedit - there is at least one redirecting ability. I don't think it's a redirector or else I'd holster entirely, but.

[usesPython]

For reading Rauth tomorrow:

[usesPython]

Basically, I know you as a strong player, and I don't completely trust myself to be able to correctly read your alignment and not be potentially fooled by scum!you if we shared a neighborhood.

We're a strong player? That's news to us

[usesPython]

I don't think Rauth is ever cult d3

[usesPython]

the weird part of this is that our neighbourhood is also called the backrooms. same as katy’s, and same as last game’s cult hood.

I somewhat doubt both are town.

I think KKFC's hood is more likely to be town

[usesPython]

I am thinking the best move would be to alien DE70. Does anyone have thoughts on this?

I'm fine with this, especially because Rauth and STD are likely to be aiming in the POE

[usesPython]

hmm then I have to change our night action. Anyone we want a green check on?

[usesPython]

It'd be weird for Mafia to shoot you here given the Cult paranoia going on around you

[usesPython]

We can green check KKFC and then just have him keep Aliening DE to keep the suspected Cult locked down while we focus on Mafia?

[usesPython]

i’m paranoid of cult!python lol.

Unless you believe usesPython as a cult leader has zero method of protecting against a N1 nightkill and can recruit on top of their day action, usesPython can't be cult or mafia.

It's not impossible, sure. The paranoia's not productive, imo.

Recruitment isn't a factional ability?

[usesPython]

idk why we thought Recruitment was factional when CL is a PR

[usesPython]

Cult generally wants to cult players they think are town (so it succeeds), yet won't be nightkilled (so it's not wasted). You as the scum N1 kill fail.

Sure but that was before the Masons were outed. Past N1 Mafia would have their NKs busy dealing with Masons + IC

[usesPython]

what exactly is your invention? alignment cop?

Given we're checking inside the PT we'd rather not say, you'll find out tomorrow

Just realized we can claim our invention in twilight since the PT stays open until daystart

VOTE: Inquiry: Is Rautherdir able to do any of the following:

• Play chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post

  Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!

  at the start of day 2

[usesPython]

VOTE: Inquiry: Is Rautherdir able to do any of the following:

• Play chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post

  Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!

  at the start of day 2

If that isn't acceptable then VOTE: Inquiry: Is Rautherdir capable of doing any of the following:

• Playing chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly placing Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking a Publishing Traffic Analyst action night 1

[usesPython]

What was the N2 nightmare ability anyway? I don't think anyone mentioned it today.

If this was a slip about knowing every invention could only be used once then there was Cult in Nightmare 1 or Nightmare 2

(Assuming Masons can't be recruited)
Nightmare 1:

Doctor Drew

,

Radical Rat

,

usesPython

,

Abnegation

, sheepsaysmeep,

Ranger

,

Titus

Nightmare 2: KatyKimFanClub,

usesPython

,

Ranger

, sheepsaysmeep,

Abnegation

,

Radical Rat

, Rautherdir

Rauth/Ircher did not read like they're groupscum together so that actually looks really bad for KKFC/sheep

[usesPython]

Actually Abnegation did you tell DE anything about the Nightmare mechanics in the PT?

[usesPython]

BTW I don't know if I said it or not, but the fact that the cult this game is called Liminal Space makes me really suspicious of KKFC as CL.

How so?

[usesPython]

Both PTs are The Backrooms, Cult is Liminal Space. What are you talking about?

[usesPython]

I'm a little confused how it's evidence in your favor then considering we have the same PT name?

^^

[usesPython]

BTW I don't know if I said it or not, but the fact that the cult this game is called Liminal Space makes me really suspicious of KKFC as CL.

How so?

Because Liminal Space Designer is the role that created the Backrooms last game?

KKFC is Backrooms Designer not Liminal Space Designer

I'm a Backrooms Designer (Town Neighborizing Marshall)

Each night I can target another player in the game and add them to my neighborhood (The Backrooms). Anyone I target cannot be targeted by anyone else and cannot take any actions the night I target them. I gain access to the Backrooms the first time my neighborize is successful.

[usesPython]

i need to verify something. we phrased the question to ask if masons are immune to cult iirc, but we probably should be wording it as alignment changes. i’ll go ask korina.

Should probably let RR do that instead since you're the Mason suspected of being Culted by DE

[usesPython]

If we're going to think about the possibility of me being cult leader, I'm not sure recruiting Ircher than then sheep or sheep and then Ircher makes the most sense from a gameplay perspective?

Like can y'all speculate on my logic in doing this?

I'll give you that, but do you think it's logical for ME to recruit Ircher? Like honestly, why would I do that over recruiting Python or something?

The Ircher recruitment doesn't make sense regardless of who the CL is this game

[usesPython]

Is it possible cult started with multiple members?

If the recruitment ability was restricted in some way to account for the extra cultists then maybe?

[usesPython]

I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor

[usesPython]

I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor

But in that case "bussing" your team d3 with TMI would be way better for Ircher than the gambit he pulled

[usesPython]

Deadline's in under 14 hours, vote for the inquiry before it hits

[usesPython]

what exactly is your invention? alignment cop?

Given we're checking inside the PT we'd rather not say, you'll find out tomorrow

Just realized we can claim our invention in twilight since the PT stays open until daystart

VOTE: Inquiry: Is Rautherdir able to do any of the following:

• Play chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post

  Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!

  at the start of day 2

VOTE: Inquiry: Is Rautherdir able to do any of the following:

• Play chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post

  Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!

  at the start of day 2

If that isn't acceptable then VOTE: Inquiry: Is Rautherdir capable of doing any of the following:

• Playing chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly placing Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking a Publishing Traffic Analyst action night 1

[usesPython]

Actually want to make a small amendment.

VOTE: Inquiry: Has Rautherdir ever been able to do any of the following:

• Play chess with Ranger at night
  
• Forcibly place Doctor Drew in the Nightmare day 1
  
• Taking an action night 1 that causes the moderator to post

  Last night, I had a dream that Radical Rat had a role that gave them access to a PT!

  at the start of day 2

Just in case something was a one-shot, causing a false negative since Rautherdir wouldn't currently be able to do those things.

They're logically identical statements, if any of those actions were from them but 1-shot then they're able to do it on that day/night otherwise it wouldn't have gone through

[usesPython]

whatever though

VOTE: RR's Inquiry

[usesPython]

I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor

If Ircher was originally Traitor, that means the scumteam only started with two members, since a Traitor would know the scumteam's identities and thus be disqualified from cult recruitment.

I find this difficult to believe in a 19 player game, but it is POSSIBLE, and would mirror the Masonry's setup.

Could have sworn someone asked about Traitor recruitment and got a response that it's legal but I can't find it now

@mod can Mafia Traitor get Cult'd while they know the identity of a living Mafia member?

[usesPython]

Oh it was asked in nightmare and not the main thread

[usesPython]

If the question is "Is X able to do Y" then it requires they currently have the ability to do so. "Has X ever been able to do Y" covers expired abilities.

If someone used a 1-shot Publishing TA n1 then by definition they're able to use a 1-shot Publishing TA n1 because by n1 they haven't used it then

[usesPython]

inb4 we no-invention because people aren't here

[usesPython]

If it comes down to it, I can move my vote back, though I'd only consider it a true clear for the Chess aspect. If all three of us move, Ranger's vote left behind would be enough to hammer.

VOTE: Radical Rat's proposal

KKFC you here for this if necessary?

[usesPython]

I think if Ircher was recruited he either got new abilities or he was originally Traitor

Ircher was OG cult if Traitors can't be converted because of the n1 rolecop redirect

[usesPython]

RRs inquiry got hammered so nvm

[usesPython]

Twilight hit so we're claiming Flea's invention:

Suppose Id better contribute a bit.

HURT: usesPython, Ranger, Radical Rat, DragonEater70, Abegnation

Also dont give me nightmare inventions. I wont end up using it unless it's something like a

disloyal vig

shot.

1-shot Disloyal Vigilante used on KatyKimFanClub

[usesPython]

Also we Day Motivated Ranger if that ever comes up

[usesPython]

It'd be really funny if KKFC is CL who recruited us tonight and due to the way NAR works we shoot him and instantly lose

[usesPython]

If KKFC flips Marshal then the n1 Ranger RB might have been KKFC attempting a recruit on Ranger