Shitty Joke Smalltown II (Micro 310) scum

[Brian Skies]

Really? I think I picked one of the worse roles for scum. I have half a mind sacrificing myself tonight just so we can take out the doc/cop.

And it's annoying me that the town are basically throwing out the plan I wanted to implement and the reason why I wanted to use this role if I flipped town.

[Brian Skies]

Yo Chamber. I think I can see these posts if I just search through my posts from my user account.

Is that working as intended considering I can see PrivateI's as well?

You should ask a third party that doesn't have access to this thread to see if that's right.

[Brian Skies]

Alright, sweet. I had some concerns regarding my alt account being able to read the posts despite not being able to access the thread, except I think something might have been fixed as my alt can't see the posts anymore.


Seeing as this is an experimental thing, I'll try to keep my eyes open for anything else I might find weird.

[Brian Skies]

PI: I'm considering not suiciding because really, all it would do is give myself up for a power role that's probably only looking for one scum anyways. And I think it would only be good if I could die without giving up associatives.

[Brian Skies]

As in not using my ability.

I haven't decided what to do yet. I'll decide later.

Some people don't seem to be on board with the idea.

[Brian Skies]

I've already submitted my night action (as in, I don't have a choice in the matter; the town strongarmed me). There is zero motivation for me not to use my ability because now that the cop has been lynched, there isn't anyone left with a viable night action worth stopping (the doc I guess? but my ability is just a stronger version of his, so it defeats the purpose). I also don't find this role useful for me as it just prevents me from being able to kill people at night (so the sooner I use it, the better).

Nobody else is worth suiciding to kill:
1-shot BP - no night action, would need to target twice
Double-voter - no night action, but would like to have die sooner than later
Doc - night action and a hindrance, would probably target at some point, but not worth suiciding over
Mailman - useless except as a counter to me
Treestump - my homie (in danger of getting lynched)
Hammerer - no night action (next in line to get lynched)
Vanilla - no night action

And even then, the only person I desire NK'ing right now is the double-voter (to reduce town power and reach mylo/lylo more quickly). I don't think anyone in this game is unlynchable right now except for MAYBE the BP (depends on how paranoid the other players are with him; he looks pretty town to me) and the doc, but right now I'm only looking ahead towards killing the doc and DV. You and Absta are the next in line to get lynched and I have zero desire to protect you (and I actually want to protect Absta because his vote is technically not even his in lylo [and it gives me more power for a quickhammer than trying to coordinate one with another player], but the remaining town players don't seem interested in keeping him around). This isn't white flag so I can attempt to bus you if I need to.

I don't know how you play, so I can't really coordinate with you (especially with your lurky and low-content play-style, I wouldn't even know how to read that if I were town). And you're going to need to explain yourself and make yourself look town as to not get yourself lynched (and they're going to ask you to explain your "whatever you want to call it" vote at the end of the day). If they use your role against you, you have ate and "you guys just want to lynch me because of my role" but a treestump is actually something people wouldn't shy away from mislynching if they feel they can afford it (and I'm hoping that if they DO lynch Absta tomorrow, we reach a point in the game where they WILL be hesitant and paranoid about being wrong about you). You also look like lynchbait and that MIGHT keep some people off of you (or at the very least, if I die trying to bus you at any point, the lynchbait argument might work in your favor).

You have very little towncred except for being unsure on Yiley (your meta with him or whatever) before being forced to hammer him (the survivalism is an issue, but hey, a town you could've been wrong and you can argue several different things: of course you'd want to survive considering the only person confirmed town to you would be yourself, it didn't look like anyone else was gonna get lynched and you were compromising on an unsure read, etc. Also, people were associating you as scum WITH Yiley. So I'm wondering if this will push the town in other directions (like towards the BP who championed the lynch; but given the nature of Yiley's play this game I find this unlikely).

Also, despite being a huge ticket towards having a greater shot at winning this game, the free mislynch on the cop actually makes a win in this set-up less appreciative (despite being heavily town-sided). I'm still playing to win (and will be attempting to do so at the best of my ability), but it's more of a "I was just given a handicap and better make the most out of it" than a "wow, we got away with a close call" or "what a great play we just did."

I'm not going to bus you unless I absolutely feel that I need to (and I don't want to have to avoid ANOTHER lynch as a result of it), but don't be surprised or mad at me if it ever happens. These people don't know me and one of us needs a reasonable amount of towncred at some point (at the very least, more towncred than half of the remaining players in this game) if we hope to pull this one out. And whatever I've been posting this game isn't likely to give me the necessary towncred I need (and I'm hoping that my future posting in this game can change that).

[Brian Skies]

But, you should at least try to defend yourself.

If you get lynched today without you at least trying to put up a fight, I will be extremely unhappy.

[Brian Skies]

And to be completely honest, even though you're up for a lynch, I don't even think the pressure on you is that bad. Like, I seriously think you have a shot of getting out of this, but not if you don't do anything.

[Brian Skies]

What are you talking about? I used my RB Night 1. It was the perfect opportunity to get rid of it.

And yeah. Mitti is dying tonight. He has strong townreads on Absta and Farside. And I don't see him protecting Absta over Farside, ever (which makes me so sad).

Brian kills Mitillos

[Brian Skies]

You're also probably going to die tomorrow. I was able to deflect the wagon away from you for one day, but I don't know if I can pull it off again.

[Brian Skies]

I don't like the color scheme.

It hurts my eyes.

We just need one more mislynch and I hope you understand what the roles do. Absta's vote isn't technically his and we can make him hammer who we want him to.

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, well, I kind of somehow put myself in a really good spot mid-Day 2 with setting up PI's slot as lynchbait. And I'm just trying to find a way not to fuck it up. I'm pretty much waiting for Farside's case before I make my move.

As for Tier, he's been town as hell this game. I'm just riding Absta/Farside's case because it's the quickest path to a win. The only slot that hasn't been oozing towniness thus far is your slot. And Tier is the easiest way to push someone as scum without it being me/you. I guess I could go for Absta, but that would require getting Micc's trust. Which is pretty difficult for me to do because he's been waffling all game (and only seems interested in Absta) and Farside scares the crap out of me. His early play also looks pretty bad and it's probably part of why Farside suspects him.

And it's mostly because they pushed to mislynch the lurking cop Day 1. I really feel bad for the town for that happening because town should have had a strong upper hand in this game (so much that they should have won this) and having the town cop get lynched for lurking is pretty unacceptable (for the record, PI and I never actually tried to push that wagon; and I thought it would have been pretty low of me to do so).

[Brian Skies]

You don't need to be amazing with your catch-up. Just write it how you think it would look if you were town (don't bus me though). I don't think anyone's going to expect you to solve the game with what time you have left.

I think Farside just wants confidence in her preferred scum-team, or at least that it's most likely to be tier (which means not you).

[Brian Skies]

Also, let me know how townish I look in this game to you. I think I look pretty town because everyone seems to think I'm town, but I'm not sure if I'm just being ignored right now.

[Brian Skies]

As far as how to approach this, I think our best shots are either lynching Absta or Tier. Just pick a side and go with it (I'm probably just gonna stick with Tier but would help hammer Absta if it came down to it).

Farside CANNOT be scum unless Absta is. So I don't understand why Tier keeps pushing that.

Micc is someone you could probably push as scum. He was mostly trying to lynch people off of set-up spec (and wanted to policy lynch Absta most of this game). His scumhunting starts to shine around Day 2, but it's a little late and I think Farside is missing it.

You could try to bus me, but I'll just destroy you and I don't want to fight off another lynch tomorrow. Just look at other people's reasoning for townreading me and decide if that's believable enough for you or not and if you can't bullshit something. You can suspect me and stuff to throw them off my trail, but definitely don't do anything that will end up getting me lynched. I like the spot I'm in right now and people aren't really suspecting me a whole lot.

Tier is scum for some reasoning I don't understand. Absta thinks he's scum because Farside is already confirmed town to him and he doesn't think it's me. He's also already voting Tier and he thinks the scumteam not jumping on Tier makes him scum by default. Weird logic but okay. He also had a short case against Tier on Day 1 that I said didn't hold any water. I've just been pushing Tier as scum for his shitty jump onto the Yiley wagon and the targets he chooses for his lynches (Jklash, PI, Yiley, Absta?).

Absta is scummy for something. I don't know. I think Absta looks the towniest out of the group. His early push on Tier was kind of bad, but other than that, I think his play has been incredibly townish. His early jump on Day 3 is just extremely concerning and Micc refuses to look past that.

Personally, I think the towniness looks as follows: Absta > Farside > Tier > Micc.
In Lylo: Tier (his case on Farside/Absta is still weak though) > Farside > Micc > Absta

I have good reasoning for where I have Micc as a read though. I'm waffling on him because while I do think his desire to policy lynch Absta is greatly concerning, I can see how a townie would think it's optimal play and push for it. I also get niggles in both direction from his scumhunting starting Day 2. Hence the nullish town read.



Summary for the other days:

Day 1 - Micc wants to lynch Absta on policy. Jklash is lynchbait. Yiley and PI lurk it out, but whereas PI's lurking wasn't considered scummy, Yiley's was. Micc and Tier push that wagon through and your predecessor faked a derphammer to get that lynch through (looked mostly like survivalism as I was planning on bussing him).
Day 2 - I don't really want to bus PI anymore and I set him up as lynchbait instead of letting people push him for his faked derphammer. Absta continues to push Tier. Jklash starts tunneling the derphammer, ignores me, gets replaced, and I get his replacement lynched for some bullshit about possibly WK'ing Tier (I honestly didn't think this one through and am now finding trouble having a strong case to lynch Tier, but Aj was dangerous and he had to go). Farside/Absta actually wanted to lynch Jklash before me because they thought he was manipulative. I knew they would follow so I championed the wagon.
Day 3 - Absta is still convinced Tier is scum. After he voted Tier, Farside became confirmed town to him. I am now being read as town to most of this playerslist, including Tier who I'm trying to lynch. Micc continues to be right about everything and people still ignore him (probably because his reads suck).

[Brian Skies]

Actually, I just really want Farside to be convinced that Tier is scum regardless of his partner.

[Brian Skies]

I actually meta-dove you when you replaced in. I couldn't find anything resembling a scum game that wasn't eaten by tigers.

[Brian Skies]

@Mod: Is it possible to make a hammerer hammer himself?

Pretty much the only thing I want answered. I'll be on sometime tomorrow. But you could probably sneak in a vote considering you don't think it's Tier and all.

I'll probably be on at about 4PM Pacific Standard Time. I can check in earlier if I need to. What about you?

[Brian Skies]

Also, the vote from Tier doesn't actually say anything about their alignments yet (thank god) and the OMGUS is probably something that was expected.

[Brian Skies]

Yeah?

Unless you can get on earlier. I kidn of want N to answer my question.

I can check in earlier. Like in 10 hours. If that's better for you.

[Brian Skies]

Hahaha. Well that's fine I guess.

Uh. I can get on earlier. I'll try to get on in like 8 hours? That'll be like 11 PM for you. And I think that might be enough time for N to answer my question. I can stay online in the morning through whenever we need it.

[Brian Skies]

If Absta can self-hammer, then we can just lynch him for the win. \o/

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, it's extremely saddening.

[Brian Skies]

I'm still here!

[Brian Skies]

Are you still here?

[Brian Skies]

Okay, vote. I'll follow. HOpe Tier doesn't unvote.

[Brian Skies]

THANKS BRO!

Hope N is still around.

[Brian Skies]

I actually feel really bad about it for some reason.

But I fought pretty hard for this.

[Brian Skies]

Yeah. I just feel bad about the Yiley lurking town-cop situation Day 1.

[Brian Skies]

I don't really feel bad about PI because I helped push that for them Day 1 and they had that option. Setting him up as lynchbait was a little difficult.

[Brian Skies]

Also, where did N go?

[Brian Skies]

That would be hilarious. I'll come back in 10 hours and see what happens then. I don't really want to respond to Tier until I know for sure what happens. But if I lose because of this, I'll be a little sad.

@Mod: I plan on having myself night kill Farside if this lynch counts.

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, we're pretty obvious now that the deed has been done.

[Brian Skies]

Lulz.

[Brian Skies]

How's your scumgame anyways? I was kind of sad that my partner just lurked most of this game. I understand some people don't like to play as scum, but I don't know. It was a lot of work on my part.

[Brian Skies]

I actually like playing as scum to some degree. I just don't like actually rolling it, if that makes sense (I'd rather be town I guess). But I do want to be scum every now and then.

[Brian Skies]

I just wonder what it would have been like if you had actually been my partner from the beginning or if you were forced to complete your catch-up.

[Brian Skies]

I would also just like to take this chance to say Absta/Farside/Micc/Tier all played a really good game, especially Micc/Tier in Lylo. And sorry I had to resort to a quickhammer. On the person I wasn't even pretending to scumread.