Open 694 Mafia PT

[Egg]

I don't want to NK mathblade because mathblade is lynchable and has bad reads.

I don't want to NK wave because he's very lynchable.

That leaves jjh, flubber, and bombcat.

Havingfitz felt that bombcat wasn't a likely mason.

*shrug*

[GameNBurger]

I wouldn't mind a flubber kill

[GameNBurger]

I'm inclined to push mathblade given he won't push back on me for some reason

[GameNBurger]

Okay so let's say we don't hit mason tonight

I'm willing to claim mason with you egg

I haven't thrown a vote at your direction or even any shade or too much of anything so I could leave that option open, otherwise if we do hit a mason you're much more believable as a mason but that depends on how you've voted on said masons I guess

[Egg]

I'm not sure we need to do that. Let me think on it.

I pushed too hard on connor to get away with it.

[GameNBurger]

[Egg]

Flubber could be a mason but if he is, there is no way jjh is a mason too.

I dunno. We probably could go there. I don't see an attempt by either him or connor to sort each other.

Mod, we'll kill Flubber

Feel free to change it but we have 12 hours so we at least need a place holder.

[Sesq]

yes

[GameNBurger]

So I guess I'll have to claim then mason if necessary

I probably won't tho and we'll just have to take the hit given that sesq has wagoned me hard this last day

So yeah I guess no mason claiming for us unless we hit a mason tonight

[Egg]

Only do it if you're about to for sure be lynched. That way we know who to kill after you are gone.

Even in a 1v1, you're giving town a 50% chance to lynch one of us by starting the day with a mason claim.

It's a fun play but ultimately not the right one.

[Agent Sparkles]

Locked for day 4

[Agent Sparkles]

Unlocked for night 4

[Egg]

I hate to say it but your sesq interactions aren't good. Tomorrow might not be good.

Do we kill bombcat or jjh?

[GameNBurger]

Yeah they aren't

And the soft bussing is incriminating as well

I can't reason with jjh

This game has been outright unforgiving in how much no one wants to play it

I might just hard claim mason if we land one tonight

I have no chance anyways

Ugh I want to scream

[GameNBurger]

Just

Maybe we can make it work

There 5 people tomorrow

3 are needed to vote

Mathblade won't vote me

I won't vote me

You won't vote me

Actually I'm feeling better about this

So don't sell me out and we can bet it all on mathblade not switching

I mean if he's willing to defend me thru my post self hammer tantrum than we have a shot

So technically I could be unlynchable

[GameNBurger]

That was legit rage btw

I hate self votes and I get you gotta commit to bussing to make it work but god damn it

To those reading this when the game ends, I really would have town read sesq early on since they seemed more helpful this game than my last

[Egg]

Yeah they aren't

And the soft bussing is incriminating as well

I can't reason with jjh

This game has been outright unforgiving in how much no one wants to play it

I might just hard claim mason if we land one tonight

I have no chance anyways

Ugh I want to scream

A mason claim would probably be a good move if we kill one. It gives us a 50% chance at the win right then and there. But if that's the plan, we have to kill bombcat because no one will ever believe you were masons with jjh. Let me check your guys' interactions and see if it's believable.

Just

Maybe we can make it work

There 5 people tomorrow

3 are needed to vote

Mathblade won't vote me

I won't vote me

You won't vote me

Actually I'm feeling better about this

So don't sell me out and we can bet it all on mathblade not switching

I mean if he's willing to defend me thru my post self hammer tantrum than we have a shot

So technically I could be unlynchable

I want to let mathblade take the lead for sure. A big push against wave or someone could be great. I'd have to be the hammer though because I've been defending wave.

That was legit rage btw

I hate self votes and I get you gotta commit to bussing to make it work but god damn it

Meh, the way she and I were playing, one of us was going down at some point and the other was supposed to get town cred so we'll see if that happens. But I think she'd accepted that fate. I wouldn't have self voted in that spot if it had been me, but not everyone is the same person and that's especially true with sesq and myself. We are complete opposites lol. Although I want to stress that I did enjoy playing this game with her despite the way my in-game posting looked.

To those reading this when the game ends, I really would have town read sesq early on since they seemed more helpful this game than my last

You have the bias of knowing she's scum with you though and looking for reasons to call her town. You were trying to view her in a positive way. Your meta points absolutely scream "I'm calling her town and figuring out why later". In hindsight, I should have pushed you to be more specific, but with you as a hard town read I didn't want to question you too much because it would look funny.

[Egg]

Ok, so...
-Connor's "I'm horrible at mafia" followed by a vote on you looks great as mason distancing.
-Your "no" to Bomb's "can we all agree I'm obvious town" isn't great but isn't damning either. Call it mason distancing or fear he was being too obvious if anyone questions you on it.
-If mathblade happens to claim mason, point out that Connor jumped on the Transcend wagon
-Your posts 273 and 276 looks a lot like trying not to be obvious about being mason with Connor. Like you're trying not to call him town but you obviously don't want him lynched.
-268 worries me if bombcat is a mason because you named him as a scum pick which, again, mason distancing does exist. But it still scares me. To be fair though if jjh is the other mason, he went after bomb a lot more than you did.
-You and Connor feel very in sync when you pushed wave the first time.

Oh shit, Connor voted Bomb and said he can see him being scum. Maybe we're better off killing jjh. He's more likely to be mason at this point. Problem is you can't claim mason if he is.

What do you think? Do I keep looking at interactions or do we kill jjh and hope for the best?

[GameNBurger]

I say kill jjh I think

Keep reading tho, I'm sorry about being busy right now

mod were killing

[GameNBurger]

killing jjh

[Egg]

Works for me.

Push Wave tomorrow. I'm gonna push Bomb. If any traction picks up against mathblade, jump on that too.

As far as quickhammering, try to post whenever you can when we are in that range. I'll do the same. If we can make two quick votes, we've got to do it.

[Agent Sparkles]

Locked for day 5

[Agent Sparkles]

Unlocked for the rest of the game, since only Egg is left.

[Egg]

Ok, here's what I'm looking at.

I believe everyone expects Waveform or myself to be the NK.

If I kill Wave, no one should question it much.

If he's mason, ideally that sets up Bomb vs Math and one of them is bound to vote each other. But Bomb suspected me earlier so maybe he comes after me. But I could definitely see Math picking wrong.

I think I like the idea of Wave dying and flipping mason. But.

If he's not mason and Bomb claims it, now Math knows I'm scum and Bomb picking me for the lynch is realistic. That worries me.

If Math is the mason, Bomb knows I'm scum and all I need is Math to vote Bomb which should be doable. Problem is Math is probably the least likely of the three to be mason.

So there are issues with a Wave kill.

If I kill Bomb and he's mason, maybe Wave sees it as a no brainer and votes Math with me. No idea what Math would do but Wave is more important in that case anyway and I have to wonder if he gets paranoid.

If Bomb is VT and Wave is mason, same situation.

If Math is somehow the mason and has to decide between me and wave...uh...God help us all trying to figure out what happens next.

So Bomb dying actually sounds good as long as Wave doesn't get paranoid.

If I kill Math and Math is mason, I think we lynch Bomb easily. But, again, what if wave gets paranoid?

If Math is dead VT and wave is mason, fucking awesome.

If Bomb is the mason, I'm probably completely fucked here because no one is on my side anymore.

If I no-kill, mason will claim.

If it's Bomb, I think we can lynch math. Even if Bomb won't do it and we go 2-2 and into night, Bomb is obv-kill anyway and I get my way next day.

If it's Wave, we're probably deciding between Bomb and Math who cross-vote and I just wait for Wave to decide. Fucking awesome.

If it's Math, Bomb is probably an easy lynch.

Worst case in a no-kill is probably Bomb mason coming out of the gate voting me but I think at least Wave would vote Math with me.

So where I'm at is deciding between a no kill and a bomb kill I think.

Either way I think my life depends on whether I've buddied Wave just the right amount that he sticks with me. And I'd rather have Bomb as a mislynch option.

The last thing to consider is why everyone guesses a no kill happened if I choose that. Wave or myself would be satisfied with game state and want Math vs Bomb to happen. Math would see that. A wave lynch would be something town-me wouldn't be on board with. So I have to hope Math and Bomb choose him over me and I can hammer.

Going back to Bomb dying, Math would still have to reset. But is Wave's town read on me strong enough for this to be the way to go? Why would Wave think Bomb died? Is guess at mason enough of a reason? Wave as a VT would have to think Bomb is mason anyway. Wave a mason though? Yikes. I'm pretty sure it's Bomb anyway. The way Connor and jjh voted him and then never had any suspicion against him later screams mason distancing.

So I'm banking on Bomb being mason and Wave trusting me here, but my official move is:

Kill Bombcat

[Egg]

I'm also ok with night ending early.