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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:55 am

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Nah LLD is just mafia.
Chances for three people to die at night if a mason gets hit and a hider hides behind scum is probably just too much neg utility. Plus... everyone who wasn't lynchbait that scumread her is dead. That says something, no?
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:04 pm

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Mechanics/balance wise, it's actually a lot BETTER to have that risk given how (apparently) unlikely it was for town to ever get a night kill or stop a night kill. Goign back to odds is substantially +EV. LLD not being town here is a setup bust barring something really really odd going on otherwise... it's just that she's very probably just a wolf and the setup has a massive bust, is all.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:21 pm

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In post 5066, Regfan wrote:
In post 5051, MathBlade wrote:LLD and Hebi are on Drealmerz and Day isn't over so those would be the only two world yep.

And if LLD and Hebi are bussing then we let them lol.

So you with me? And ready for day end?
Okay, finished my call.

If it's LLD/Hebichan/Dreamlz then lynching Dreamlz here is fine and doable with them bussing each other votes.
If it's Dreamlz/Cephrir/TWIE then lynching Dreamlz here is fine and doable with their votes and mine and yours.
If it's LLD/Hebichan/TWIE we lose by lynching Dreamlz, but if it's LLD/Hebichan/TWIE we probably lose via Dreamlz being mslynched at some point anyway?

Like I get where you're coming from in that lynching Dreamlz beats the most worlds and beats the worlds we can beat.

Just how confident are you in it not being the last world? If you don't think it's the last world then voting Draemlz is fine.
that's pretty horrifying as a post there

LLD/Hebi/Reg for postgame credit

Reg's maria push in particular was always disgusting and if he's town then I'm incredibly disapointed w what he'd done here
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:41 pm

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Gg?
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:44 pm

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i reckon ya
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:49 pm

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Gg.

Lld reg TWIE
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:50 pm

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lol didn’t even need all wolf votes there

Looking forward to review thread game seemed broken but will re-evaluate
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:52 pm

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In hindsight we probably would have given town a bit more power but we hardly expected everyone to ignore the very obvious flavor hints as to what each dream did picture and text wise. Also the lack of mechanical discussion period really killed towns PRs.


More in the postgame thread but fully admit it didn't work out to perfectly even. Scum still played well and town poorly regardless of that
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:53 pm

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That’s because you assumed non-obvious things were obvious
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:54 pm

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In post 332, Cabd wrote:very obvious flavor hints
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:54 pm

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Probably this game is still scumsided if you turn a vt into a cop
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:55 pm

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Reg definitely played well
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:00 pm

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In post 332, Cabd wrote:In hindsight we probably would have given town a bit more power but we hardly expected everyone to ignore the very obvious flavor hints as to what each dream did picture and text wise. Also the lack of mechanical discussion period really killed towns PRs.


More in the postgame thread but fully admit it didn't work out to perfectly even. Scum still played well and town poorly regardless of that
We never got anything useful to discuss mechanically because dream information was very intentionally obscured through out the game. We did get hidden flips so that people could make wrong assumptions about how PRs worked though, that was cool.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:01 pm

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In town's defence, the setup worked out closer to balanced with LLD town (or at least scum-reg being unable to receive a dream), which is a major reason she wasn't lynched earlier, and things kind of snowballed from there.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:02 pm

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In post 338, serrapaladin wrote:In town's defence, the setup worked out closer to balanced with LLD town (or at least scum-reg being unable to receive a dream), which is a major reason she wasn't lynched earlier, and things kind of snowballed from there.
Exactly.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:02 pm

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Your distaste for the setup decisions is noted.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:03 pm

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I promise to look at review thread and see if my mind should change. Best I can do.
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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