Chat discussion I had with xofelf regarding rules in my game:
PokerFace (18:41)
Hey elf. you are in charge of the mish mash forum right?
xofelf (18:46)
Hey, yes, yes I am
xofelf (18:46)
what's up?
PokerFace (18:48)
I was wondering if you could give me an unbiased opinion on a rule element in the game I am running
PokerFace (18:48)
in the mish mash forum
PokerFace (18:49)
you got time for me to explain or you busy?
xofelf (18:52)
I totally can do that
PokerFace (18:52)
ok this might be a little difficult to explain so if you have any thing you need me to clarify feel free to ask
PokerFace (18:53)
the game in question is
PokerFace (18:53)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79291
PokerFace (18:54)
the role pm and game rules say that if you don't send a protect at night, your kill will target yourself.
xofelf (18:55)
okay sure
xofelf (18:55)
I've half read some of these before, but go on
PokerFace (18:55)
There is a player that has not yet sent me role actions. if they don't fix this in and hour, their kill will target themself. that player is currently being protected by 2 other players.
PokerFace (18:55)
an hour*
xofelf (18:57)
okay sure
PokerFace (18:57)
it has been "implied" but not written in the rules that sending no actions will result in the player dying. But looking at the rules and actions it suggests the player should live as there is 1 normal kill targeting them and 2 players protecting them
PokerFace (18:58)
the player in question did pick up their role pm but has not posted in the game out side of the posty /in
xofelf (18:58)
hm
xofelf (18:59)
I think you have to follow the rules as you've written them
xofelf (18:59)
It doesn't say that a non-submission will kill somebody who is being protected
PokerFace (19:00)
yesterday I pmed the player that not giving actions will result in their death. I did that before re-reading the rules today
xofelf (19:00)
did they open the PM yet?
PokerFace (19:00)
the player has not yet picked up that pm
xofelf (19:00)
then you can stealth edit that out entirely
xofelf (19:00)
if they haven't touched it, then it's fine tbh
PokerFace (19:00)
?
xofelf (19:01)
you can edit PMs before people open them, not just delete them
PokerFace (19:01)
that pm went out to 2 players via bcc, one of them did send me their actions, the other didn't stealth edit can't be done
xofelf (19:01)
ahhh
xofelf (19:02)
hmm
PokerFace (19:02)
i did the ? as i was not sure if you meant kill them or not for a second there. forgot to include the detail
xofelf (19:02)
I think they live tonight, but you make a post in game that adds that you have an oversight in your rules that will be effective in future rounds.
xofelf (19:03)
Then it's written down and not just implied
PokerFace (19:04)
you think its fine to do that while the game progresses? I do have a rule that states "00. I reserve the right to edit these rules at any time should something truly unexpected occur." so i guess that would be ok
PokerFace (19:05)
it would be ok to fix it moving forward and let them live for now i guess
xofelf (19:05)
Yep
xofelf (19:05)
Like, adding the rule and having it be applicable right now is a no go
xofelf (19:06)
but having as, oh wait i have forgotten this, so it'll be a future thing, is fine
xofelf (19:06)
happens all the time
PokerFace (19:06)
does that really happen often?
xofelf (19:07)
well a lot of games through Mish Mash aren't the most well modded cuz it's mostly for fun and all, so like, people are pretty chill if a rule needs added later.
xofelf (19:07)
And sometimes there's oversights that happen
PokerFace (19:07)
makes sense.
PokerFace (19:08)
I'm not big on the idea of editing things later. never had to before, but I guess I made rule 00 for some reason
xofelf (19:08)
So i don't think anyone will be particularly bothered or anything, so it's fine
xofelf (19:08)
oh for sure
xofelf (19:08)
I get that
xofelf (19:08)
but sometimes circumstances change, and it's all good
PokerFace (19:09)
ok. may I quote this chat window in my private topic for the backstage of my game. you ok with that?
xofelf (19:09)
Oh, sure, that's fine.
PokerFace (19:09)
basically my way of making sure the players understand my actions
xofelf (19:09)
yeah it's fine
PokerFace (19:09)
cool